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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2441 Post by xorxes » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:10 am

Well, that was an eventful EOD. I will read it again more carefully tomorrow, but well done on catching the Traitor! Lynch could have gone better, but I don't think Chameleon counts as a mislynch. We should not have any mislynches this game. I think bozo claiming was the right call, and I'm glad I was right about him.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2442 Post by Vaporwave » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:12 am

Most of his posts are directed to Bunny G, bozo, Flav and dargo, our claimants

Maybe Ezio performed that Ricky 'shtick' to signal to Jamie that he's mafia?

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2443 Post by TrPrado » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:12 am

Vaporwave wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:07 am
TrPrado wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:05 am
Okay, I'm good now. It appears Bunny rectified his mistake by hitting scum. So that's one of the people who pushed Flav's "slip" down the drain. Now's a good time to see how people interacted with them and see if anyone tried signalling anything.
Will be looking into JamieTravolta's posts
He may have done some in trying to figure out his scum buddies, but I feel it'd a bit better to comb over others in interacting with Jamie, since he would not be as sure who anyone is while also simultaneously posting with malicious intent. Although, of his posts it's a bit entertaining to see that he had basically outed himself as having shot bo by pointing out he was one of very few people actually online at the time.
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Oh, nice. Really clever shot. <Sarcasm>

RIP Bo_Sox

Sucks to lose our Doctor so early. Sigh.
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Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:47 am
Other than me I notice BunnyGo online.

Bunny, was that you?

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2444 Post by Kitsune » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:16 am

We have the Vig and the Traitor revealed, and a gunsmith in play.

Let’s make his hunt a little easier.

Every Town role with a gun, please softclaim.

This will warn the Gunsmith off false positives and let him focus on catching Nking mafia and assassin when he reads them.

Gunsmith definitely don’t claim unless you have a hard read on a non-town role.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2445 Post by rdrivera2005 » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:16 am

Can someone give me a short description of what happened EOD, as I hff have 20 pages to read and a dinner to cook.

Good job killing Jamiet, whoever did it.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2446 Post by Vaporwave » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:21 am

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:16 am
Can someone give me a short description of what happened EOD, as I hff have 20 pages to read and a dinner to cook.

Good job killing Jamiet, whoever did it.
only if you tell us what you're planning to cook

Bozo claimed medium, we moved to Bionic who was Chameleon

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2447 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:26 am

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:16 am
Can someone give me a short description of what happened EOD, as I hff have 20 pages to read and a dinner to cook.

Good job killing Jamiet, whoever did it.
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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2448 Post by rdrivera2005 » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:27 am

Vaporwave wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:21 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:16 am
Can someone give me a short description of what happened EOD, as I hff have 20 pages to read and a dinner to cook.

Good job killing Jamiet, whoever did it.
only if you tell us what you're planning to cook

Bozo claimed medium, we moved to Bionic who was Chameleon
Bunny shot Jamiet if I get it right, he claimed Vig or Joat?

I will cook pasta with a white sauce with mushrooms and paprika (it takes other ingredients, but I don't know exactly how to spell it in English and don't want to look on Google Translate).

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2449 Post by TrPrado » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:30 am

Gonna take a nap, so I'm putting my productivity on hold

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2450 Post by xorxes » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:43 am

Kitsune wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:29 pm
I want someone else to post their projected role list now please.

Let’s see what smarter minds than mine can do with the intel out there and who is who, before we lose another town.
There's one role that has been "soft claimed", whatever that means to him, and one role that has been indirectly outed because I think it's the only role they could have if all the claims are true, but I'm not sure if we should state the reasoning explicitly even if we have to assume the Assassin will figure it out too.

So we are currently 11-4-2. I think we don't need to worry about the Infector for now since they lost their only infectee and have to start from scratch. I think the 4+1 that we do have to worry about are all among:

Vecna
Ike
Squigs
Temasek
Vapor
Ezio
Prado

With clears/clearish/clear-in-waiting/non-mafia:

Flavius
Kitsune
dargo
bozo (if not clear, he's dead anyway)
worcej (almost certain, if not he's dead anyway)
BunnyGo (contingent on some things, but seems legit)
rivera (if claim doesn't match soft, he's dead)
Kalel (if claim doesn't match soft, he's dead)
Bob (if claim doesn't match soft, he's dead)
xorxes non-Mafia

So we lynch tomorrow among:

Vecna
Ike
Squigs
Temasek
Vapor
Ezio
Prado

and we should have at least a 5/7 of hitting evil scum, 1/7 of hitting neutral (Infector), and only 1/7 town, who hopefully has a verifiable claim that means no mislynch.

If one of them counterclaims one of the softs above, we will have to deal with a 1v1.

One thing: If we have a Magnet, which I think is still possible that we do, they should consider activating tonight. It's possible that they will die, but that doesn't matter because some townie will die anyway. It is also possible that they don't die because there may still be some protection to be had. Activating the magnet will prevent the Assassin from hitting one of their targets, and with so many claims and softs around it is likely that one of them is an Assassin target and this should buy us another day. If there is no magnet, I guess we have to pray that none of the revealed roles were an Assassin target.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2451 Post by BobMcBob » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:44 am

@TrPrado, I would like to know why you defended BM so heavily. Why were you defending him so heavily?

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2452 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:58 am

xorxes wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:43 am
Kitsune wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:29 pm
I want someone else to post their projected role list now please.

Let’s see what smarter minds than mine can do with the intel out there and who is who, before we lose another town.
There's one role that has been "soft claimed", whatever that means to him, and one role that has been indirectly outed because I think it's the only role they could have if all the claims are true, but I'm not sure if we should state the reasoning explicitly even if we have to assume the Assassin will figure it out too.

So we are currently 11-4-2. I think we don't need to worry about the Infector for now since they lost their only infectee and have to start from scratch. I think the 4+1 that we do have to worry about are all among:

Vecna
Ike
Squigs
Temasek
Vapor
Ezio
Prado

With clears/clearish/clear-in-waiting/non-mafia:

Flavius
Kitsune
dargo
bozo (if not clear, he's dead anyway)
worcej (almost certain, if not he's dead anyway)
BunnyGo (contingent on some things, but seems legit)
rivera (if claim doesn't match soft, he's dead)
Kalel (if claim doesn't match soft, he's dead)
Bob (if claim doesn't match soft, he's dead)
xorxes non-Mafia

So we lynch tomorrow among:

Vecna
Ike
Squigs
Temasek
Vapor
Ezio
Prado

and we should have at least a 5/7 of hitting evil scum, 1/7 of hitting neutral (Infector), and only 1/7 town, who hopefully has a verifiable claim that means no mislynch.

If one of them counterclaims one of the softs above, we will have to deal with a 1v1.

One thing: If we have a Magnet, which I think is still possible that we do, they should consider activating tonight. It's possible that they will die, but that doesn't matter because some townie will die anyway. It is also possible that they don't die because there may still be some protection to be had. Activating the magnet will prevent the Assassin from hitting one of their targets, and with so many claims and softs around it is likely that one of them is an Assassin target and this should buy us another day. If there is no magnet, I guess we have to pray that none of the revealed roles were an Assassin target.
Umm. A lot of those claims are unclear to me. Can you elaborate on how those claims were made and how we check them?

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2453 Post by xorxes » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:58 am

Vaporwave wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:12 am
Most of his posts are directed to Bunny G, bozo, Flav and dargo, our claimants

Maybe Ezio performed that Ricky 'shtick' to signal to Jamie that he's mafia?
@Vapor, is the reason that you are so much more confident this game than last that Vecna is on your team?

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2454 Post by xorxes » Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:01 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:58 am
xorxes wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:43 am
Kitsune wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:29 pm
I want someone else to post their projected role list now please.

Let’s see what smarter minds than mine can do with the intel out there and who is who, before we lose another town.
There's one role that has been "soft claimed", whatever that means to him, and one role that has been indirectly outed because I think it's the only role they could have if all the claims are true, but I'm not sure if we should state the reasoning explicitly even if we have to assume the Assassin will figure it out too.

So we are currently 11-4-2. I think we don't need to worry about the Infector for now since they lost their only infectee and have to start from scratch. I think the 4+1 that we do have to worry about are all among:

Vecna
Ike
Squigs
Temasek
Vapor
Ezio
Prado

With clears/clearish/clear-in-waiting/non-mafia:

Flavius
Kitsune
dargo
bozo (if not clear, he's dead anyway)
worcej (almost certain, if not he's dead anyway)
BunnyGo (contingent on some things, but seems legit)
rivera (if claim doesn't match soft, he's dead)
Kalel (if claim doesn't match soft, he's dead)
Bob (if claim doesn't match soft, he's dead)
xorxes non-Mafia

So we lynch tomorrow among:

Vecna
Ike
Squigs
Temasek
Vapor
Ezio
Prado

and we should have at least a 5/7 of hitting evil scum, 1/7 of hitting neutral (Infector), and only 1/7 town, who hopefully has a verifiable claim that means no mislynch.

If one of them counterclaims one of the softs above, we will have to deal with a 1v1.

One thing: If we have a Magnet, which I think is still possible that we do, they should consider activating tonight. It's possible that they will die, but that doesn't matter because some townie will die anyway. It is also possible that they don't die because there may still be some protection to be had. Activating the magnet will prevent the Assassin from hitting one of their targets, and with so many claims and softs around it is likely that one of them is an Assassin target and this should buy us another day. If there is no magnet, I guess we have to pray that none of the revealed roles were an Assassin target.
Umm. A lot of those claims are unclear to me. Can you elaborate on how those claims were made and how we check them?
Just ISO them. If they are fake they will be outed as soon as we try to lynch the real corresponding role.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2455 Post by BobMcBob » Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:02 am

For some reason I have a feeling that xorxes is assassin. I would consider expanding the lynch pool, given that we don't know xorx is town, even if he says he does.

Xorxes
Vecna
Ike
Squigs
Temasek
Vapor
Ezio
Prado

Other than that, I mostly agree that softclaims should stay out of the pool for now, but there is no way we should consider xorx out of the lynch pool.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2456 Post by xorxes » Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:05 am

BobMcBob wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:44 am
@TrPrado, I would like to know why you defended BM so heavily. Why were you defending him so heavily?
I have to say that of the seven in my lynchpool, Prado is my town candidate.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2457 Post by xorxes » Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:07 am

BobMcBob wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:02 am
For some reason I have a feeling that xorxes is assassin. I would consider expanding the lynch pool, given that we don't know xorx is town, even if he says he does.

Xorxes
Vecna
Ike
Squigs
Temasek
Vapor
Ezio
Prado

Other than that, I mostly agree that softclaims should stay out of the pool for now, but there is no way we should consider xorx out of the lynch pool.
Yes, I should be considered too, but obviously I won't put myself in my lynchpool.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2458 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:14 am

xorxes wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:05 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:44 am
@TrPrado, I would like to know why you defended BM so heavily. Why were you defending him so heavily?
I have to say that of the seven in my lynchpool, Prado is my town candidate.
Vapor is mine. But I rank him similar to you (xorxes) he’s probably town, but just may be very dangerous.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2459 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:14 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:14 am
xorxes wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:05 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:44 am
@TrPrado, I would like to know why you defended BM so heavily. Why were you defending him so heavily?
I have to say that of the seven in my lynchpool, Prado is my town candidate.
Vapor is mine. But I rank him similar to you (xorxes) he’s probably town, but just may be very dangerous.
That said, I think you (xorxes) are more likely 3P and vapor is more likely town.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2460 Post by TrPrado » Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:51 am

BobMcBob wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:44 am
@TrPrado, I would like to know why you defended BM so heavily. Why were you defending him so heavily?
I read the statement several times and didn't quite see it and I felt it was in town's best interest to know that that sort of statement was perfectly reasonable to see from towny, even if the conclusion was premature. But I think part of why my defense was as heavy as it was was partially based on me being angry that everyone was fine with using factually incorrect information to justify jumping onto the wagon. The biggest part was xorxes saying Bionic had implied knowledge that xorxes was driven, but of the many times I read through the statement I never once got that impression. If I did I'd probably have agreed with the wagon. Nobody else corrected that point from xorxes, and xorxes never acknowledged my assertion that his claim was false.

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