M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1941 Post by TrPrado » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:00 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:57 am
TrPrado wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:50 am
Also, what the fuck is going on with this top wagon? Most of the speculation of the day has revolved around this assumption that damo may not have been the intended NK target, but once we've confirmed that driver was in play and Bionic restates that sentiment it's suddenly a scumslip?
He didn't restate it. Read again. He stated that damo *wasn't* the target.
Like how Flavius knew bo found scum? This is literally just as ridiculous. And I know that at least one of the people on the wagon (xorxes) is only there based on a misreading.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1942 Post by Kitsune » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:00 am

dargorygel wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:52 am
What if damo was scum. He NK Ed xorxes. I switched them so he killed himself. The assassin also targettef and hit damo.
Damo was not scum.

He had a town role I am aware of but decline to disclose at this time.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1943 Post by BobMcBob » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:02 am

TrPrado wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:50 am
Also, what the fuck is going on with this top wagon? Most of the speculation of the day has revolved around this assumption that damo may not have been the intended NK target, but once we've confirmed that driver was in play and Bionic restates that sentiment it's suddenly a scumslip?
I can see nowhere in the thread (from my reading at least) where there was any confirmation that the driver had swapped the NK target. So how could mole safely assume the target was swapped?
And unless this IS in fact an elaborate hoax by Kit, we can also safely assume the NK was meant for the swapped person. And that person should be a little nervous knowing that the NK was meant for them.
How on earth could BM be able to safely assume this? I may be wrong, and there is the case of Flav's "scumslip" already, but this seems suspicious.

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#1944 Post by BobMcBob » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:06 am

Also, I'm regretting not putting more information into my EoN PM to the GM's. I totally forgot about the interceptor while doing it (honestly, I haven't looked over the entire roles doc for a while). Otherwise I could have got clear. Kit, do you have any idea which one I am? Don't state my role though.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1945 Post by BobMcBob » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:06 am

BobMcBob wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:06 am
Also, I'm regretting not putting more information into my EoN PM to the GM's. I totally forgot about the interceptor while doing it (honestly, I haven't looked over the entire roles doc for a while). Otherwise I could have got clear. Kit, do you have any idea which one I am? Don't state my role though.
My bad, semi-clear. Kit could have vouched for me at the very least.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1946 Post by TrPrado » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:08 am

BobMcBob wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:02 am
TrPrado wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:50 am
Also, what the fuck is going on with this top wagon? Most of the speculation of the day has revolved around this assumption that damo may not have been the intended NK target, but once we've confirmed that driver was in play and Bionic restates that sentiment it's suddenly a scumslip?
I can see nowhere in the thread (from my reading at least) where there was any confirmation that the driver had swapped the NK target. So how could mole safely assume the target was swapped?
And unless this IS in fact an elaborate hoax by Kit, we can also safely assume the NK was meant for the swapped person. And that person should be a little nervous knowing that the NK was meant for them.
How on earth could BM be able to safely assume this? I may be wrong, and there is the case of Flav's "scumslip" already, but this seems suspicious.
Probably for similar reasons everyone thought he was magnet until Kitsune said it was impossible? If Bionic had namedropped xorxes or something like that I'd find this push reasonable. And around the top of the same page the quote happened, Kitsune revealed that the driver was in play, which opened up a possibility to confirm what most everyone else believed.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1947 Post by BunnyGo » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:09 am

Should we also assume that xorxes got the item from the smith? I mean...why not? we know there's an item smith and we know there's a xorxes!

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#1948 Post by BunnyGo » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:11 am

BobMcBob wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:06 am
Also, I'm regretting not putting more information into my EoN PM to the GM's. I totally forgot about the interceptor while doing it (honestly, I haven't looked over the entire roles doc for a while). Otherwise I could have got clear. Kit, do you have any idea which one I am? Don't state my role though.
WHAT THE F*#( ARE YOU DOING??!?! HAVE WE NOT REVEALED ENOUGH TO THE ASSASSIN ALREADY?!

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1949 Post by TrPrado » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:12 am

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Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:09 am
Should we also assume that xorxes got the item from the smith? I mean...why not? we know there's an item smith and we know there's a xorxes!
Which leaps in logic are you criticizing here? The only ones I'm aware of right now are trying to push Bionic into a premature grave.

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#1950 Post by BunnyGo » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:15 am

TrPrado wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:12 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:09 am
Should we also assume that xorxes got the item from the smith? I mean...why not? we know there's an item smith and we know there's a xorxes!
Which leaps in logic are you criticizing here? The only ones I'm aware of right now are trying to push Bionic into a premature grave.
Bionic's leap that the driver must have bussed damo.

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#1951 Post by FlaviusAetius » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:18 am

xorxes wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:42 pm
Vaporwave wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:38 pm
A heroine appears on the scene

I'm glad I trusted you, Kit ;)
Maybe she's making the whole thing up and she is just listing all her fellow scum fake roles, have you considered that? :shock:
xd sincerely doubt thats true

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#1952 Post by TrPrado » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:20 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:15 am
TrPrado wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:12 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:09 am
Should we also assume that xorxes got the item from the smith? I mean...why not? we know there's an item smith and we know there's a xorxes!
Which leaps in logic are you criticizing here? The only ones I'm aware of right now are trying to push Bionic into a premature grave.
Bionic's leap that the driver must have bussed damo.
So will all the people who made that assumption before driver was ever confirmed to be in the game also be getting the same scrutiny? Will the people who suggested damo was the magnet?

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#1953 Post by FlaviusAetius » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:22 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:31 pm
Temasek22 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:21 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:12 pm


Since you aren’t sharing all the content, can you share the following? What roles did you NOT see PMs for? Maybe there’s no medium? Or Cyan Cat?
She shouldn't. They are most likely scum fake claims and she should probs reveal after scum fake claims, catching scum.
You think if they will leave her alive if she has more info that might harm them, I’m surprised. I can understand not sharing intel that someone else already knows (the content of one specific PM) but going to her grave with the aggregate? I think you’re waaaaaay off here. If they want to lie later? They’ll off her and we won’t have anything.
She can always reveal the information at EoN2, incase she dies that night, so we have all the information on the table

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#1954 Post by BunnyGo » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:24 am

TrPrado wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:20 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:15 am
TrPrado wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:12 am


Which leaps in logic are you criticizing here? The only ones I'm aware of right now are trying to push Bionic into a premature grave.
Bionic's leap that the driver must have bussed damo.
So will all the people who made that assumption before driver was ever confirmed to be in the game also be getting the same scrutiny? Will the people who suggested damo was the magnet?
And I was (and still am a bit) trying to push xorxes off a cliff for that one. I thought it was stupid then. And it still has my rabbit ears twitching.

What's you specific problem with Bionic's wagon? You think what he said wasn't shady? You know something else? You have a really strong read on him?

The difference in my mind between this slip and the last "slip" (which you'll notice I never joined or believed. I didn't really think the wagon made sense at all until he claimed) was that this one wasn't under duress. No pressure. Just freely saying what he's thinking "wow...our target wasn't killed, they gotta be worried, ayup."

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#1955 Post by FlaviusAetius » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:28 am

Temasek22 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:21 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:12 pm
Kitsune wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:07 pm


I decline to answer that question 8-)

Or rather, I’ll point to the role descriptions like our dear GMs.

Full information will go out in graveyard chat if I’m killed, so again don’t bother bringing me back. Bring back someone more useful who will have my information.
Since you aren’t sharing all the content, can you share the following? What roles did you NOT see PMs for? Maybe there’s no medium? Or Cyan Cat?
She shouldn't. They are most likely scum fake claims and she should probs reveal after scum fake claims, catching scum.
Nope thats no longer an option, they know she has the information, she must die, and she will die Night 2 if she doesnt reveal all her information(which is why she should at (EoN2)

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#1956 Post by FlaviusAetius » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:29 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:31 pm
Temasek22 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:21 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:12 pm


Since you aren’t sharing all the content, can you share the following? What roles did you NOT see PMs for? Maybe there’s no medium? Or Cyan Cat?
She shouldn't. They are most likely scum fake claims and she should probs reveal after scum fake claims, catching scum.
You think if they will leave her alive if she has more info that might harm them, I’m surprised. I can understand not sharing intel that someone else already knows (the content of one specific PM) but going to her grave with the aggregate? I think you’re waaaaaay off here. If they want to lie later? They’ll off her and we won’t have anything.
BTW this also proves bosox was killed by Traitor, not by Vig or JOAT, because the Traitor would of killed Kitsune by now(you took a big risk Kitsune, Im glad you took it)

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#1957 Post by TrPrado » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:30 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:24 am
TrPrado wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:20 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:15 am


Bionic's leap that the driver must have bussed damo.
So will all the people who made that assumption before driver was ever confirmed to be in the game also be getting the same scrutiny? Will the people who suggested damo was the magnet?
And I was (and still am a bit) trying to push xorxes off a cliff for that one. I thought it was stupid then. And it still has my rabbit ears twitching.

What's you specific problem with Bionic's wagon? You think what he said wasn't shady? You know something else? You have a really strong read on him?

The difference in my mind between this slip and the last "slip" (which you'll notice I never joined or believed. I didn't really think the wagon made sense at all until he claimed) was that this one wasn't under duress. No pressure. Just freely saying what he's thinking "wow...our target wasn't killed, they gotta be worried, ayup."
No, I don't think it was shady. I'm starting to look back at Bionic's iso because of it now, but so far he doesn't look scummy, and this post absolutely sounds like the sort of thing I'd see newb town say not thinking whether it looked bad.

As a separate tangent, that idea itself points to Bionic may well not being scum. New scum are more self consciously wanting to not look bad. Does that Bionic quote look like playing close to the chest to you? It doesn't to me.

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#1958 Post by Squigs44 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:30 am

Psa: I know it's nice to be a town clear and not have to worry about people scumreading you, but until the assassin is outted, be very very careful about revealing anything related to your role.

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#1959 Post by FlaviusAetius » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:31 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:46 pm
Can I just say how much better it’s been with Ike here instead of yuuki? I’m really glad we made this switch.
Thats a joke right, because Ike came in and left its pretty sad he's gonna have to be replaced now too

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#1960 Post by FlaviusAetius » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:35 am

dargorygel wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:23 am
Interesting.
I was thinking that I would keep my power quiet and use it night after night. But this revelation does give town info that we can use to do some deducing.

I am also not available tomorrow much... Typical for my weekend.

But I believe damo was scum. And he tried to kill xorxes.

I switched xorxes and Dani around. I expected xorxes to be NK Ed. I was right.

The odd thing I can't. Connect yet is the assassin. Town put your big brain's on this.

Xorxes I am sorry if I wrecked your game again.
O_O
wow this is a lot of information in a lot of short period of time, I think it would of been better if you kept it secret, you are likely dying tomorrow

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