M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

[Squigs44]

Can I just say how much better it’s been with Ike here instead of yuuki? I’m really glad we made this switch.

or

*Stares menacingly*

Ike stop filling out job applications and come play

[TrPrado]

Interesting.
I was thinking that I would keep my power quiet and use it night after night. But this revelation does give town info that we can use to do some deducing.

I am also not available tomorrow much... Typical for my weekend.

But I believe damo was scum. And he tried to kill xorxes.

I switched xorxes and Dani around. I expected xorxes to be NK Ed. I was right.

The odd thing I can't. Connect yet is the assassin. Town put your big brain's on this.

Xorxes I am sorry if I wrecked your game again.

I figured you were the Driver when I got the (very late) message from the GM. But I don't think you needed to claim at all yet.

Now, how did BionicMole know that I was the target?

If this is true it would also give us a townclear in xorxes. Two townclears and two claimed roles that are very likely telling the truth from what I've seen. Good business

HOWEVER, I don't remember reading anything in BM's message that was about you or implied knowing you were a target or swapped

[BobMcBob]

Okay, I see something going on here... Can somebody please explain further how we knew there was a driver and whatnot, and how we got to that point while I do some reading and see if I can work it out too? And come to a decision on whether or not BM's scum? Although it's not looking great for him...

Are you done reading? Did you figure it out yet?

I think I got it. BionicMole posted on the assumption that one of the two swapped by the driver was targeted for NK, when there was no way of knowing that was the case.

And before that, Kitsune claimed Interceptor (I have no counterclaim to that, or to her list of in-use roles, could still be assassin, but I don't think so) and stated that there was a driver. Also dargo has claimed driver, switching xorx and damo (after BM's slip).

A lot of things have happened. Information is now in abundance. Now we just REALLY need to find the assassin.

[TrPrado]

I'm fairly suspicious of Xorxes and Vaporwave as the assassin. Just my 2 cents, and its probably worth less than that.

xorxes would have to have shot himself to be assassin, I imagine, but I suppose it is possible for him to be other 3P though

[BunnyGo]

Why them, and why assassin as opposed to other scum?

Xorxes isn't mafia because he was the NK target.

He's been hunting, but sheeping. He's been passively scared of being found at times, but actively hunting other scum. I've just had an off vibe, but he's no mafia.

Vaporwave I'm all over the map on. I'm just as likely to think hardcore town one minute and scummiest scum the next. So that suggests to me someone who is both. No actual good reason, just my radar going bonkers suggesting something weird.

It seems like you are saying that you think someone who is acting scummy but hunting is assassin. Any scum (3p or mafia) could fit this category, since mafia can hunt for 3p, and 3p hunt for mafia. Your xorxes as 3p could make sense, but why label him as assassin and not infector? Unless you know he's not infector because YOU are the infector?

Nah...it's just because I have assassin on the mind; it's such a broken character that if we don't catch them ASAP, we lose. So I don't really care about the rest.

[BobMcBob]

I'm fairly suspicious of Xorxes and Vaporwave as the assassin. Just my 2 cents, and its probably worth less than that.

xorxes would have to have shot himself to be assassin, I imagine, but I suppose it is possible for him to be other 3P though

No, unless I misunderstood, Mafia NK'd one of the assassin's targets. Xorxes is still a candidate for assassin.

[TrPrado]

So nobody was informed that they were swapped, correct? So no Driver or not used. That means damo was targetted directly.

That's a really interesting development. Maybe he crumbed for a power they wanted? This reads like it could be for gladiator:

I challenge bo to be first to claim

I don't imagine they'd go for it unless role thief is generally townread, though

What are you saying?

I hadn't reached the point where we found out any of the driver stuff yet, so this speculation isn't worth much anymore.

[BunnyGo]

Interesting.
I was thinking that I would keep my power quiet and use it night after night. But this revelation does give town info that we can use to do some deducing.

I am also not available tomorrow much... Typical for my weekend.

But I believe damo was scum. And he tried to kill xorxes.

I switched xorxes and Dani around. I expected xorxes to be NK Ed. I was right.

The odd thing I can't. Connect yet is the assassin. Town put your big brain's on this.

Xorxes I am sorry if I wrecked your game again.

I figured you were the Driver when I got the (very late) message from the GM. But I don't think you needed to claim at all yet.

Now, how did BionicMole know that I was the target?

If this is true it would also give us a townclear in xorxes. Two townclears and two claimed roles that are very likely telling the truth from what I've seen. Good business

HOWEVER, I don't remember reading anything in BM's message that was about you or implied knowing you were a target or swapped

Be careful using term "townclear". I'll take dargo as the driver, but not xorxes as town. He's just not mafia.

[BunnyGo]

I'm fairly suspicious of Xorxes and Vaporwave as the assassin. Just my 2 cents, and its probably worth less than that.

xorxes would have to have shot himself to be assassin, I imagine, but I suppose it is possible for him to be other 3P though

Explain this please.

[TrPrado]

I'm fairly suspicious of Xorxes and Vaporwave as the assassin. Just my 2 cents, and its probably worth less than that.

xorxes would have to have shot himself to be assassin, I imagine, but I suppose it is possible for him to be other 3P though

No, unless I misunderstood, Mafia NK'd one of the assassin's targets. Xorxes is still a candidate for assassin.

Would the GM's have informed us if an assassin target died but were killed by someone other than assassin?

##CALL GM'S

[BionicMole]

Just wondering how the swapped person could confirm who the driver is? They would only be able to confirm the swap happened. Am I correct in assuming that?

When the Driver claims, they say who they swapped, and the swapped person can confirm that they were swapped. If damo was the Driver and scum stole his role, then they could claim Driver but they wouldn't know who damo drove.

And unless this IS in fact an elaborate hoax by Kit, we can also safely assume the NK was meant for the swapped person. And that person should be a little nervous knowing that the NK was meant for them.

We won't know that for sure until we know if damo was one of the swapped persons.

Why are you helping his scum slip?

Probably because its not a scumslip

[rdrivera2005]

I'm fairly suspicious of Xorxes and Vaporwave as the assassin. Just my 2 cents, and its probably worth less than that.

xorxes would have to have shot himself to be assassin, I imagine, but I suppose it is possible for him to be other 3P though

Assassin most likely didn't shoot anyone, he was lucky Damo was killed and he were on the assassin targets list.

[TrPrado]

I'm fairly suspicious of Xorxes and Vaporwave as the assassin. Just my 2 cents, and its probably worth less than that.

xorxes would have to have shot himself to be assassin, I imagine, but I suppose it is possible for him to be other 3P though

Explain this please.

The way I've read the assassin role is the assassin themselves has to kill their own targets, so seeing damo dying, seeing the message an assassin target has been killed, and now knowing damo and xorxes were flipped, I would imagine that if xorxes were the assassin he would have to have shot himself.

[TrPrado]

I figured you were the Driver when I got the (very late) message from the GM. But I don't think you needed to claim at all yet.

Now, how did BionicMole know that I was the target?

If this is true it would also give us a townclear in xorxes. Two townclears and two claimed roles that are very likely telling the truth from what I've seen. Good business

HOWEVER, I don't remember reading anything in BM's message that was about you or implied knowing you were a target or swapped

Be careful using term "townclear". I'll take dargo as the driver, but not xorxes as town. He's just not mafia.

Yeah, corrected that assumption later, but still a good position to be in overall.

[rdrivera2005]

Xorxes isn't mafia because he was the NK target.

He's been hunting, but sheeping. He's been passively scared of being found at times, but actively hunting other scum. I've just had an off vibe, but he's no mafia.

Vaporwave I'm all over the map on. I'm just as likely to think hardcore town one minute and scummiest scum the next. So that suggests to me someone who is both. No actual good reason, just my radar going bonkers suggesting something weird.

It seems like you are saying that you think someone who is acting scummy but hunting is assassin. Any scum (3p or mafia) could fit this category, since mafia can hunt for 3p, and 3p hunt for mafia. Your xorxes as 3p could make sense, but why label him as assassin and not infector? Unless you know he's not infector because YOU are the infector?

Nah...it's just because I have assassin on the mind; it's such a broken character that if we don't catch them ASAP, we lose. So I don't really care about the rest.

That's true, and without a Cop it will be really hard to find Assassin.

##unvote

[BunnyGo]

xorxes would have to have shot himself to be assassin, I imagine, but I suppose it is possible for him to be other 3P though

Explain this please.

The way I've read the assassin role is the assassin themselves has to kill their own targets, so seeing damo dying, seeing the message an assassin target has been killed, and now knowing damo and xorxes were flipped, I would imagine that if xorxes were the assassin he would have to have shot himself.

No it just says "The GMs will announce whenever an Assassin target has been killed." Assassins don't care how their targets die, just that they die.

[TrPrado]

Also, what the fuck is going on with this top wagon? Most of the speculation of the day has revolved around this assumption that damo may not have been the intended NK target, but once we've confirmed that driver was in play and Bionic restates that sentiment it's suddenly a scumslip?

[dargorygel]

What if damo was scum. He NK Ed xorxes. I switched them so he killed himself. The assassin also targettef and hit damo.

[BunnyGo]

Also, what the fuck is going on with this top wagon? Most of the speculation of the day has revolved around this assumption that damo may not have been the intended NK target, but once we've confirmed that driver was in play and Bionic restates that sentiment it's suddenly a scumslip?

He didn't restate it. Read again. He stated that damo *wasn't* the target.

[BunnyGo]

I received PM confirmation of the Driver power at work, which presumably means the swapped persons and the driver can confirm this took place last night.

The swapped persons should keep quiet for now in case someone claims Driver and needs to be confirmed.

This opens up the possibility that damo was driven after all and the bullet was meant for someone else.

Just wondering how the swapped person could confirm who the driver is? They would only be able to confirm the swap happened. Am I correct in assuming that?

And unless this IS in fact an elaborate hoax by Kit, we can also safely assume the NK was meant for the swapped person. And that person should be a little nervous knowing that the NK was meant for them.

Why the hell would we assume that damo was a drivers target?