M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

[dargorygel]

If you care, upon reading this is where I am at currently:

RIP: Bo and Damo (most likely town, maybe a 3p, def not scum)
Obv!town: Flav, Vapor, Bunny, bozo
Town-lean: rdr, kitsune, ezio, darg, Squigs
Neutral: Bionic, Temasek, Bob, Kalel, Ike
Suspect, aka -face: xorxes, Vecna, Jaime, TrPrado

What don't you like about Prado? And what do you like about bunny?

[dargorygel]

@ike... Have you read your pm yet?

[dargorygel]

Kitsune's long posts look REALLY good. There's a pretty clear display of a lot of time and thought going into them, a lot of energy of trying to figure out info and piece information together. Pretty solid town in my book.

I know... It's meta. But what is your recollection of her when she was scum?

[FlaviusAetius]

It's like you think the reaction test's only purpose is in the first phase when people see it, rather than in the aftermath when everyone is trying to act on their analysis. It's much easier to scumread people for their actions and pushes rather than simply the whimsical pontification and knee jerk reactions.

Let's assume you're correct though. The reaction test accomplished nothing for me and I got no reads out of it. How is it scummy to do something with potential to catch someone (and clearly try to catch someone), and then fail?

Was 12 hours not enough for you? 30-40 pages worth of content not enough for you? People were not only talking about you, but other scum as well, did you really only find one singular quote and thats it? For godsake you had no questions for anyone, you just found nothing, it was all useless, nothing found, nothing gained. Did you find anything after it? What in the world did you find, because guess what my guy, we are on page 88, and so far I still see nothing
This isnt what bosox did with his reaction test, we know he is a town, you on the other hand?
Its not scummy to fail, its scummy to not even try.

[BunnyGo]

Not gonna lie, xorxes seems like the tanner to me, he knows what he's doing and he's doing it anyways. Scum xorxes wouldn't just randomly not follow his meta, he always acts as a leader no matter what. Randomly changing that 100% seems like he's trying to attract a lynch

The last thing the Tanner wants is to get lynched. They want to die in any other way than a lynch, They lose if they are lynched.

Good point, so then why did anyone think Ezio was a tanner then?

The thought was that this group seems to have a lot of
Itchy trigger fingers. And might shoot first to “stop the hammer”

[BunnyGo]

I think you and kalel both agree with each other bunny :p no need to argue about it

Hmm. Kalel seems different this game to me. Less deferential. Might just not be first game, but something is different.

[BunnyGo]

Yeah, I thought about it. The big danger of a full 'outing' is if Cat is on the Assassin list. It's been strongly recommend to me against claiming for that very reason. Are you not so sensitive to that Bunny? You're plan advocates Flav outing Cat, correct? Isn't that falling into the Assassin's hands, or do you think it's worth it to take the risk that The Cat isn't one of the other two targets?

As a team, we also need aware that if we make too good of use of the Flav townclear then they may NK him. Which would shorten the pay-off value of the sacrifice we forced him to make for us. It might be a good idea to have a couple of other hard (or even confirmed claims) to protect him...
It would have to be one-shot PRs, and then, as usual, I come back to the damn assassin and the advice I was given.

Did I not literally write exactly that when I first started this thread? Are you literate or just a troll?

Out of those two choices I choose literate.

LOL. Touché

[BunnyGo]

Did I not literally write exactly that when I first started this thread? Are you literate or just a troll?

Out of those two choices I choose literate.

And the fact that you're willing to give up an ID to the Assassin is scum points in my view.

That and your belligerent attitude towards someone who was essentially agreeing with you strikes of trying to generate false conflict.

##Vote BunnyGo

To think, after last game I thought you were a townie I could try and give crumbs to.

Oh? Have I missed your way too subtle crumbs that are totally obvious? I’ll have to go iso you again later.

In the meantime think about this: I was a belligerent asshole last game too when I wanted to be. You were just never the target of my ire. But your OMGUS play is very unlike you.

[TrPrado]

OK, I'll start...but I expect all y'all to pitch in too:

My top two town reads (besides Flav...obv town):

1) Worcej. Yes he's distracted with a barfing, shitting, screaming, adorable thing at home, but he's putting in clearly written replies, keeping us from drifting when he can, and is actually trying to help people focus (when he's here). He didn't read my many many night questions, ah well...pobody's nerfect.

2) rdrivera2005. I'm loving the bullshit he calls out. Explains stuff, keeps things on track. Calling TrPrado a tool is bonus points. Was very thoughtful about Flav's claim, the consideration with the rules on lynching Flav.

My top two scum reads:

1) Xorxes. His post N1 posts have been really off. He's searching, but it seems he's trying to cover something, and so keeps saying stuff that makes no sense. I count on xorxes to know what's up, so seeing things like this sets my ears perked up.

2) Kitsune. I'm getting the same vibe as last game. Her "reads" post was <insert politer negative phrase here>. And I've found her disappearing whenever she's made an impression saying nothing.

What have I said that makes no sense, and why would I want to say things that make no sense if I was scum? That makes no sense, but I don't scumread you for it, see?

Kitsune is being very towny, and I'm wary of worcej and rivera, so our reads are more or less opposite...

Can I ask what's tipping you off about worcej?

[TrPrado]

Kitsune's long posts look REALLY good. There's a pretty clear display of a lot of time and thought going into them, a lot of energy of trying to figure out info and piece information together. Pretty solid town in my book.

I know... It's meta. But what is your recollection of her when she was scum?

Literally never played a game with her

[TrPrado]

Don't want to say it, but it's needed. I try to avoid bumping into him, but he's still in the game so his input and presence is required.

I'm disliking this guy, but he's a player with a big mouth in general.

Jamie needs to post and take the bull by the horn, something feels 'off' about him

A candidate for a scan or for a vig/joat shot, imo

Avoid bumping into Jamie? Why?

[TrPrado]

sigh fine if none of you want to join me on Ezio, I will be moving my vote to rdrivera;

#vote rdrivera

You only put one #

[xorxes]

@xorxes
Why all the talk about role thief? (Anyone can answer)

It's important to be aware that if someone claims to be able to prove their role N2, they could actually be the Role Thief using damo's role. This only applies to a few roles though.

[TrPrado]

I guessostly, I can't see why damo was nked. So I am comparing what happened with what I expected as norm.

My thought was that everyone thought damo and me were connected, Im going to look back and see who were trying to connect me and him before I claimed

I think I take slight blame. I was the first to mention damo with the infamous "bo caught scum" quote, then it really picked up traction with Jamie. Before that I don't remember there being that association.

[xorxes]

Last game people explained to me that claiming that you were role blocked was a safe claim for town because scum already knew it. Is this still true with the different roles and 3P?

It's not as clearcut because it also gives info to the Traitor and the Assasin, but still probably more help to town than not.

It helps the assassin by denying they are the role blocker? That seems small. How does it help the traitor by town leaning them? Are we not going to ever town clear people?

Yes, that's more or less what I said: it's a small help to Traitor and Assassin, but probably still worth it because it helps town more.

[FlaviusAetius]

^

##vote rdrivera

[FlaviusAetius]

^

##vote rdrivera

(in reference to trprado)

[FlaviusAetius]

Im operating on the assumption bosox died by the Traitor, I refuse to believe vig and JOAT would kill that quickly

[TrPrado]

Did I not literally write exactly that when I first started this thread? Are you literate or just a troll?

Out of those two choices I choose literate.

And the fact that you're willing to give up an ID to the Assassin is scum points in my view.

That and your belligerent attitude towards someone who was essentially agreeing with you strikes of trying to generate false conflict.

##Vote BunnyGo

To think, after last game I thought you were a townie I could try and give crumbs to.

Why would scum try to generate conflict that they are at the heart of?

[TrPrado]

If you care, upon reading this is where I am at currently:

RIP: Bo and Damo (most likely town, maybe a 3p, def not scum)
Obv!town: Flav, Vapor, Bunny, bozo
Town-lean: rdr, kitsune, ezio, darg, Squigs
Neutral: Bionic, Temasek, Bob, Kalel, Ike
Suspect, aka -face: xorxes, Vecna, Jaime, TrPrado

I forgot about Ike taking over for yuuki until I saw his name on this list.