M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

[BunnyGo]

Oh thanks, that does ring a bell.

So we may have a bodyguard in our 9 random then.

Any thoughts on the night kills?

Have I misread something or most nights do we only have the one?

Either assassin or arsonist is in the game, but either way they're a second NK.

They are not, read the roles. Assasin can't shoot unless he know who to shoot and arsonist will not ignite people unless to win or to dodge a lynch.

Why will arsonist not ignite more?

[BobMcBob]

Nice meme

If vig is out there, kill flav or Ike (or both ), I can't handle this nonsense anymore.

I think YOUR nonsense needs to be called out
Whyd you vote me? Especially so late?
You were DEAD set on Kitsune, a wagon was even forming around him
Have we found our traitor folks?
You seem like your real loosey goosey! You good with anything!

To make it easier for you to understand, the post you quoted was a joke. But can you and Ike please stop uselessly arguing?

I jumped on your wagon because there was pretty much no way anything else was going to get through that late. I thought, "why is Flav trying to defend himself so hard if he can survive a lynch? At worst, we lose bulletproof's protection for a townclear. At best we hit scum."

I don't like the way you handled it though, because if you could survive the lynch, you didn't need to claim, and if we'd ended up lynching you, you would survive and get towncleared. This way, you gave us incentive to lynch you to see if your claim was correct.

But no matter how much I dislike your playstyle/handling, your townclear now. Congratulations.

[Kitsune]

Either assassin or arsonist is in the game, but either way they're a second NK.

They are not, read the roles. Assasin can't shoot unless he know who to shoot and arsonist will not ignite people unless to win or to dodge a lynch.

Why will arsonist not ignite more?

Why should they?

We're not certain if there's an Assassin or an Arsonist at this point, so we don't know what we're looking for.

We know there's only 1 of the 2 though (so no Flavius, Assassin won't be targeting Arsonist) and unless they're shot which immediately stops their play they can ignite at any point including 1 minute from a lynch in which they're the lead wagon.

In fact if I was the Assassin (I'm not, and have no information that there is one in this random of the setup) I might hold my fire until all but one of my targets were killed by town or mafia. That way there's still confusion about what town should be looking for, and people would tend to focus on Mafia or the more viscerally terrifying Arsonist role without knowing how close hypothetical-Assassin-me was getting to my hypothetical targets.

Any time the Assassin guns down their target this is posted, but I don't believe this is posted if someone else kills them (not by my reading of the role anyway).

[BunnyGo]

So far NO ONE has responded to this
WHY did I choose to claim a role that nearly gurantees a lynch INSTEAD OF

1) Making a case damo was scum
2) Follow what TrPrado said and say I was being too obsessive over Ezio and so I jumped in logic

Until those two questions can be answered, you guys are just jumping on a wagon with only surface level thinking

Because you decided you wanted to use this exact argument to save yourself, that's why.

Using your actions the day of, after you were being pressured, as the way to defend yourself post pressure is pure nonsense and most of us are too experienced to fall for that shit.

If you are the role you claim to be, you should have fought the pressure but remained silent about your role. We would have a ton of wagon analysis to do if you had done that, but instead you chose to make this WIFOM-ish argument.

This is the first thing I read by Ezio all game that makes me not what to hang him high tomorrow.

[BunnyGo]

Also me being a town clear as beneficial makes no sense, I was universally town read before this, and no one listened to me then, no one is going to listen to me now
Nothing is being accomplished

Not universally. Otherwise you wouldn’t have felt pressure to claim.

[BunnyGo]

Vote Count
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Flavius (10): Jamiet, worcej, Ezio, Kalel, bozo, dargo, Squigs, Bionic, rdr, Bob
Ezio (2): Flavius, BunnyGo
Kitsune (1): Tem
rdr (2): xorxes, Vecna
bozo (1): Prado
Vecna (1): damo
Jamiet (1): Vaporwave
Tem (1): Kitsune

=================

yuuki has not met posting or voting requirements yet, and is looking to be subbed unless this changes.

Flavius is gazing upon and into the abyss - is that a wave he sees in the dark? He shudders, and attempts to avoid being yeeted into it.

There is around 18 minutes left in Day 1

Hey guys, don’t forget it’s in the rules to upvote ALL GM notes. Not just the ones we like. Not just 6 of us (or 2 in this case).

[RagingIke297]

If the Vigilante is out there, please kill Ezio, the man needs to die

Nice meme

Why's that a meme, mr. I havent read the thread?

Shooting Ezio is a web dip meme

[BunnyGo]

It means he doesn't understand why he was lynched.

He takes his record being broken personally.

FALSE. This doesn’t count I am still A LIVEEEE

Hmm. I think we can fix this tomorrow.

[BunnyGo]

WHAT IS UP KIDS??

Welcome! We’re having a great time!

[xorxes]

Any time the Assassin guns down their target this is posted, but I don't believe this is posted if someone else kills them (not by my reading of the role anyway).

That's actually something we should know.

##CALL GM: If an Assassin's target dies but not killed by the Assassin, do we get to know if they were one of the Assasin's targets?

[BunnyGo]

WHAT IS UP KIDS??

Great. Not only do I have to play with a town clear power hungry Flav, but I have to play with Ike too? I thought this Halloween was going to be fun...

Why are you worried? Hiding something?

[BunnyGo]

ZOIDBERG, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

WOOP WOOP WOOP WOOP WOOP WOOP WOOP!

This is looking similar to my game, hopefully I rolled scum and can just sit back and laugh the whole game while the town destroys itself

At least you acknowledged him. The GMs still haven’t given him a proper meme burial.

##CALL GM

[FlaviusAetius]

If vig is out there, kill flav or Ike (or both ), I can't handle this nonsense anymore.

I think YOUR nonsense needs to be called out
Whyd you vote me? Especially so late?
You were DEAD set on Kitsune, a wagon was even forming around him
Have we found our traitor folks?
You seem like your real loosey goosey! You good with anything!

To make it easier for you to understand, the post you quoted was a joke. But can you and Ike please stop uselessly arguing?

I jumped on your wagon because there was pretty much no way anything else was going to get through that late. I thought, "why is Flav trying to defend himself so hard if he can survive a lynch? At worst, we lose bulletproof's protection for a townclear. At best we hit scum."

I don't like the way you handled it though, because if you could survive the lynch, you didn't need to claim, and if we'd ended up lynching you, you would survive and get towncleared. This way, you gave us incentive to lynch you to see if your claim was correct.

But no matter how much I dislike your playstyle/handling, your townclear now. Congratulations.

Thats a really bad argument, there is never not enough time to switch wagons, I've seen it switch with less than 5 mintues left, people can switch last moment, dont use 'oh not enough time, oh well' as an excuse, its not one

ALSO if someone is accused I hope to dear god they defend themselves until their last breath, regardless of what role you are, thats just how you should play

[BunnyGo]

Got no chance of catching up in time. Is EOD 20mins? Recap of 25 odd pp please someone.

LOL.

https://makeameme.org/meme/okay-im-back

[BunnyGo]

WHAT IS UP KIDS??

Yay! A player! I AM FINE THANKS!!

Btw, did we ever get a Wednesday frog announcement? I haven't checked yet.

Nope. Possible it was yuuki...

[Kitsune]

Any time the Assassin guns down their target this is posted, but I don't believe this is posted if someone else kills them (not by my reading of the role anyway).

That's actually something we should know.

##CALL GM: If an Assassin's target dies but not killed by the Assassin, do we get to know if they were one of the Assasin's targets?

I'm hoping we get a clear response, but since they usually point us back to the role description I just checked.

The GMs will announce whenever an Assassin target has been killed.

Looks like I was wrong. So it will get announced either way.

[BobMcBob]

WHAT IS UP KIDS??

Yay! A player! I AM FINE THANKS!!

Btw, did we ever get a Wednesday frog announcement? I haven't checked yet.

Nope. Possible it was yuuki...

That's what I was implying. It could just be they didn't want to reveal themselves, but that seems odd.

[Kitsune]

That's what I was implying. It could just be they didn't want to reveal themselves, but that seems odd.

Not really.

It'd be in the 9 random roles, so odds are there isn't one if we didn't see it used.

I don't believe it reveals who they are in any way, and would have been a good way to have an authorative and anonymous town announcement.

[xorxes]

VOTE JAMIET guys

there's no excuse for him being so withdrawn

him and xorxes are very much iffy to me

Remember xorxes having that MEGA presence in Meme V1 and now he pops in once in a while but doesn't take any charge

I'm happy with iffy. I will even give you more townie points for this actually. I think your impression that I was more in charge in the other game is a matter of perspective: you were scared shitless of anything I said in that game, but you seem to not have that fear this round.

In version 1 we had to do a massclaim. It was an obvious winning strategy. In this new version, I started with the same idea, but then we found out that there may be a role that foils the strategy, and so we had to take a more careful approach.

With so many self-verifying roles and such a high scum to town ratio it should be almost impossible to mislynch any townie this game. Most town roles can simply claim and they won't be lynched because they will be able to prove themselves. Scum don't have that luxury, because even though they have fake roles they are either unusable because they are verifiable, or not an effective lynch deterrent because they are unverifiable.

Many potential actions tonight, so tomorrow should be an interesting day, hopefully I'm still here to enjoy it.

[xorxes]

Any time the Assassin guns down their target this is posted, but I don't believe this is posted if someone else kills them (not by my reading of the role anyway).

That's actually something we should know.

##CALL GM: If an Assassin's target dies but not killed by the Assassin, do we get to know if they were one of the Assasin's targets?

I'm hoping we get a clear response, but since they usually point us back to the role description I just checked.

The GMs will announce whenever an Assassin target has been killed.

Looks like I was wrong. So it will get announced either way.

That's good then, that means bo wasn't one of the targets.