M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

[Kitsune]

Oh thanks, that does ring a bell.

So we may have a bodyguard in our 9 random then.

Any thoughts on the night kills?

Have I misread something or most nights do we only have the one?

Either assassin or arsonist is in the game, but either way they're a second NK.

They are not, read the roles. Assasin can't shoot unless he know who to shoot and arsonist will not ignite people unless to win or to dodge a lynch.

Townie points for rdr :)

Or at least "thank god you're paying attention" points.

That was my read as well.

[Temasek22]

##Vote Flav

[TrPrado]

Oh thanks, that does ring a bell.

So we may have a bodyguard in our 9 random then.

Any thoughts on the night kills?

Have I misread something or most nights do we only have the one?

Either assassin or arsonist is in the game, but either way they're a second NK.

They are not, read the roles. Assasin can't shoot unless he know who to shoot and arsonist will not ignite people unless to win or to dodge a lynch.

They're killing roles, it doesn't matter

[KalelChase]

That's a hell of an weird post, why Damo would get more towny voting for someone that is being pushed for telling that Bo was right on catching Damo as scum? Please explain like I had 4 years...

Rdrivera,

My current weights show Flavius and Damo in-cahoots. They're tied in my scum weight spreadsheet (which doesn't distinct from 3P since we didn't have them last game) and my vote at the time of the post was on Damo. I was hesitant to move my vote to a lead wagon just after I declared that I wasn't going to 'just go with the popular vote' this game, and be brave enough to go off on my own. Thought that kind of hypocrisy would be perceived as scummy. Point being I was cautious about moving from Damo to Flav.

My suggestion that Damo vote for Flav would either confirm or take-away from my theory that they're covering for each other, especially if Flav flipped scum.

Hope that helps. Happy to elaborate further if needed.

Do you know scum can vote other scum (and usually do it a lot), right? I still don't really understand your logic and really think your (over) concern on how other people will see your moves a bit scummy, but thanks for the explanation.

After 2.5 games I keep thinking data will help me crack how to play this, but I am actually getting more out of the 'meta' in my head from last game. I can see why this game is played on this site. Dip is another game where if you play with the same people over and over you 'get' them.

[Kitsune]

43 minutes til EOD

Guys?

Really?

We're doing this?

I feel a vote on Ezio is at least more useful than weakening our town power roles, but if my vote isn't going to help a lynch then I'll focus on communication for future vote analysts.

##vote Temasek22

[Temasek22]

##Vote Flav

Let's try to get us a town clear

[Kitsune]

##Vote Flav

Let's try to get us a town clear

Flavius is wrong. If we lynch him, scum will almost certainly nk precisely to deny us the town clear.

That leaves us with what exactly for 48 hours of chatter and finger pointing?

[dargorygel]

##Vote Flav

Let's try to get us a town clear

Flavius is wrong. If we lynch him, scum will almost certainly nk precisely to deny us the town clear.

That leaves us with what exactly for 48 hours of chatter and finger pointing?

I don't think so.
A clear is much more valuable to us, than it is a danger to them.

[FlaviusAetius]

Wait Im confused do I even survive lynches?

[Vaporwave]

Wait Im confused do I even survive lynches?

think you do

[dargorygel]

Wait Im confused do I even survive lynches?

That is how I read it.

[Temasek22]

##Vote Flav

Let's try to get us a town clear

Flavius is wrong. If we lynch him, scum will almost certainly nk precisely to deny us the town clear.

That leaves us with what exactly for 48 hours of chatter and finger pointing?

I doubt scum will be going after naruto runner, almost every role is has slightly more power than it. I think they're more likely to just kill someone else?

[Temasek22]

Wait Im confused do I even survive lynches?

##CALL GM

[dargorygel]

##CALL GM
See? there remains confusion. The doc says 'kill' which might refer only to Night Kill... since we don't usually use 'kill' for the lynch.

So I will ask again, more clearly:

Does the Runner Survive a LYNCH?

[FlaviusAetius]

So far NO ONE has responded to this
WHY did I choose to claim a role that nearly gurantees a lynch INSTEAD OF

1) Making a case damo was scum
2) Follow what TrPrado said and say I was being too obsessive over Ezio and so I jumped in logic

Until those two questions can be answered, you guys are just jumping on a wagon with only surface level thinking

[Temasek22]

Actually, I'll ##vote Kitsune. She just seems to be outright tunneling on me now, ugh.

[Temasek22]

##CALL GM
See? there remains confusion. The doc says 'kill' which might refer only to Night Kill... since we don't usually use 'kill' for the lynch.

So I will ask again, more clearly:

Does the Runner Survive a LYNCH?

@emc42 @chaqa

[dargorygel]

So far NO ONE has responded to this
WHY did I choose to claim a role that nearly gurantees a lynch INSTEAD OF

1) Making a case damo was scum
2) Follow what TrPrado said and say I was being too obsessive over Ezio and so I jumped in logic

Until those two questions can be answered, you guys are just jumping on a wagon with only surface level thinking

THIS is what I wondered is maybe a town slip. (Not that I think you are scum.)
Scum is not able to CHOOSE a fakeclaim... they were given one by the GM's. Now certainly, you could choose another and have a CC... but this 'would' have been your natural first choice. Especially before the QT is open.

[FlaviusAetius]

Also to all those who support the idea that 'oh well there's no other lynches so we mine as well just go with this, not enough time left!!'
Ridiculous idea, we have 33 mintues left, thats MORE than enough time, cmon answer the question why did I not choose an easy cop-out? There were exit ramps, I didnt have to go down this route. THINK ABOUT WHY I DIDNT

[Ezio]

So far NO ONE has responded to this
WHY did I choose to claim a role that nearly gurantees a lynch INSTEAD OF

1) Making a case damo was scum
2) Follow what TrPrado said and say I was being too obsessive over Ezio and so I jumped in logic

Until those two questions can be answered, you guys are just jumping on a wagon with only surface level thinking

Because you decided you wanted to use this exact argument to save yourself, that's why.

Using your actions the day of, after you were being pressured, as the way to defend yourself post pressure is pure nonsense and most of us are too experienced to fall for that shit.

If you are the role you claim to be, you should have fought the pressure but remained silent about your role. We would have a ton of wagon analysis to do if you had done that, but instead you chose to make this WIFOM-ish argument.