M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

[TrPrado]

Over 20 hours ago I asked everyone to give me their opinion on whether they think this quote from Kitsune is suspicious, and I believe only 2 players responded. My vote for Kitsune is based on this one quote, where it seems to me she is saying that when she voted for me in M49 she thought I might be mafia, even though she was mafia and therefore knew I was not.

In M49 (yes I know. Shush, it's all I have to go on) I found that bozo was pushing a plan I didn't entirely agree with and seemed to push it despite attempts to distract him into doing something else. As a result and developing my town hunting techniques I voted to lynch him on Day 1 and he flipped town.

So you're continuing to push a narrative around a misunderstanding that's already been cleared up?

[TrPrado]

I now have a working phone ama

[bozotheclown]

Also, I strongly disagree with Flav here. Ezio seems to have been doing a reaction test, not a troll, although it may look like that. I know you don't appreciate or agree with reaction tests, but some people like them and will do them anyway. I'm going to be really annoyed and surprised if Ezio turns out to be scum. Either way, I think his play was good.

Im not saying it wasnt a reaction test, but look at the differences between bo's and ezio's reaction tests. One kept the fueling of the flames, and found a scum, not only that he didnt do literally the only reaction test that a scum must say to enact their ability.
Ezio said the forbidden words, dropped off the face of earth, caused huge disruption, and now people are playing with nonsense to prove his innocence

Oh my.

Flavius just scumslipped AND slipped his team mate Damo too.

##VOTE FLAVIUS

This does look like a scum slip, and his explanation so far is not very convincing.

[Kitsune]

Over 20 hours ago I asked everyone to give me their opinion on whether they think this quote from Kitsune is suspicious, and I believe only 2 players responded. My vote for Kitsune is based on this one quote, where it seems to me she is saying that when she voted for me in M49 she thought I might be mafia, even though she was mafia and therefore knew I was not.

In M49 (yes I know. Shush, it's all I have to go on) I found that bozo was pushing a plan I didn't entirely agree with and seemed to push it despite attempts to distract him into doing something else. As a result and developing my town hunting techniques I voted to lynch him on Day 1 and he flipped town.

Bob understands what I'm saying, and agrees it makes sense here:

So not really a scum slip in the sense that Kitsune said something that would only make sense from a scum perspective.
Also, Kitsune never said she scumread you? She said she disagreed with your plan and voted for you. Also, even if she did scumread you, that particular part of the story wasn't relevant to the meta she was building around you, and her argument still stands.
It does seem a bit weird to be bringing up her own behavior while establishing your meta, but I don't particularly see scum motivation behind that

Maybe scum slip is the wrong term, but I think it is scum indicative. The part about scum reading me in M49 is relevant in that she was mafia in M49, and could not be scum reading me.

I think the idea here is that Kitsune was looking for behaviour that if she had been town would have considered scummy among the people she knew weren't mafia. It makes sense to me. She was scumreading someone that conceivably seemed like scum but that she knew wasn't scum.

I'm not going to spend the next few hours defending myself.

In a way it actually reinforces my (limited) observations if they come from a proven (dead) townclear, and while I feel my powers would be useful there are definitely more powerful roles out there.

I do wish more of the reasons people have for scumleaning me weren't "she seems town. but she was scum last game and she seemed town!"

Anyway. Going to keep playing the game, which is not "Cover your ass M50.1"

[Kitsune]

Im not saying it wasnt a reaction test, but look at the differences between bo's and ezio's reaction tests. One kept the fueling of the flames, and found a scum, not only that he didnt do literally the only reaction test that a scum must say to enact their ability.
Ezio said the forbidden words, dropped off the face of earth, caused huge disruption, and now people are playing with nonsense to prove his innocence

Oh my.

Flavius just scumslipped AND slipped his team mate Damo too.

##VOTE FLAVIUS

This does look like a scum slip, and his explanation so far is not very convincing.

I don't understand what we've found here.

Not saying you're wrong, but can you explain?

[Vaporwave]

Over 20 hours ago I asked everyone to give me their opinion on whether they think this quote from Kitsune is suspicious, and I believe only 2 players responded. My vote for Kitsune is based on this one quote, where it seems to me she is saying that when she voted for me in M49 she thought I might be mafia, even though she was mafia and therefore knew I was not.

In M49 (yes I know. Shush, it's all I have to go on) I found that bozo was pushing a plan I didn't entirely agree with and seemed to push it despite attempts to distract him into doing something else. As a result and developing my town hunting techniques I voted to lynch him on Day 1 and he flipped town.

oh, it seems a bit deceiving, what 'hunting' techniques were required? she was mafia and had full knowledge of town and scum, did she mean hunt for PR?

'and he flipped town' - you know he was town, there was never an element of surprise given your mafia status

[KalelChase]

ISO me, Flavius?

And can anyone explain how my posts are “forced”? I always post like this.

Sorry for silencio last night guys, was planning to chime in but Halloween party went late.

At least 1 post planned, just need some sit-down time on my laptop before I have to run out the door.

You always post like this isn't great considering you were mafia last game.

[FlaviusAetius]

iso on Kitsune

your first post looked fantastic i literally agree with everything in it
and kinda proves Ezio isnt tanner and also agrees to the point we shouldnt say the forbidden words

First person to mention Assasin problems with mass claiming
You dont like mass claiming on its face but are one of those people who would of yielded

but supports popcorn mass claiming...interesting you said you were broadly against it but now are all for it

Really wants to do some kind of mass claiming, trying to find some sort of compromise with it

Now your fully 100% behind popcorn mafia, and some version or another by it

You were around the final arguments in putting down completely the idea of mass claiming, it seems you were jumping back and forth between popcorn mass claiming, and then all of a sudden determine all mas claiming is bad. Interesting...developing position, or switching randomly, as you see the winds blow?

Using meta to attack Bunny, when you could of just done it on the merits, he wasnt talking a lot, he was on but not talking just hedging, he picked it up after he saw this comment >.> @bunny

Shows that you using n-word and g-word actually didnt count cause it was out of order

Big argument over your scumslip, I didnt and still dont really understand it, seems like it was just fishing for straws

Seems more like a commenter than a doer, just congratulate people on what they do and defends yourself when people attack you >.> AKA a lot of talking with not a lot of substance, not a good look

So it seems the scumslip from Kitsune was based on meta hunting, and now actually a scumslip, again meta hunting is bad, doesnt determine anything, seems your big post explaining everything in M49 cleared things up

Big read list, before responding to bunny >.> trying to make everyone think your a good dude! A lot of it has oh I dont know or they didnt really do anything wrong...Actually those are pretty good reads I agree with everything said, EXCEPT with Ezio...he said the phrase he deserves to be Lynched,
Also we've been talking about Ezio, you clearly saw it, but no comments on it HMM

Seems Squigs was pressuring Kits to solve the game when he was just giving his initital thoughts, not how things work Squigs

ohhhh Bunny asked for your reads, makes more sense now

OK so that was pretty much it
Basically kits you just comment on things acting like a general instead of a soldier, looking at what everyone else is doing and giving your thoughts, and then when people pressure you on your reads you are like ahhh well actually no, just my thoughts!

Seems like you want to say things, but you too scared to say them, Hedging? Mafia? Im not sure, definitely sus

[Vaporwave]

Kit, did you forget your alignment in your 1st game?

[Jamiet99uk]

Oh my.

Flavius just scumslipped AND slipped his team mate Damo too.

##VOTE FLAVIUS

This does look like a scum slip, and his explanation so far is not very convincing.

I don't understand what we've found here.

Not saying you're wrong, but can you explain?

Once again:

It's pretty clear.

Bo_Sox's reaction test was focused on Damo.
Flavius states unambiguously that Bo_Sox "found a scum".
Thus, he behaves as if he knows Damo's alignment.
Damo is still alive and it is too early for a scan to have happened.

Therefore......

[bozotheclown]

Over 20 hours ago I asked everyone to give me their opinion on whether they think this quote from Kitsune is suspicious, and I believe only 2 players responded. My vote for Kitsune is based on this one quote, where it seems to me she is saying that when she voted for me in M49 she thought I might be mafia, even though she was mafia and therefore knew I was not.

In M49 (yes I know. Shush, it's all I have to go on) I found that bozo was pushing a plan I didn't entirely agree with and seemed to push it despite attempts to distract him into doing something else. As a result and developing my town hunting techniques I voted to lynch him on Day 1 and he flipped town.

So you're continuing to push a narrative around a misunderstanding that's already been cleared up?

Why has it been cleared up, because Kitsune responded with an explanation? Would she not do that as scum?

There is a negative connotation to say I am "pushing a narrative", when I am just asking one specific question, whether or not you agree with me that this suspicious.

[BunnyGo]

Wrong. One of the people who actually thought Ezio was scum said there was a small possibility he was Tanner, but still what he was doing was basically just a distraction, you putting things out of order

False.

By the time you made the above statement on page 30, BunnyGo, Kitsune, BionicMole, and myself, had all been speculating that Ezio was the Tanner.

You're not following the thread very carefully. You're just manufacturing little storms of fake anger.

First time I saw the Tanner option even pop up was when that one person, pretty sure it was Bob who made all the options of what Ezio could be, it seem, and all of them didnt spell anything could for Town

It was me. And I was asking for advice on what else it could be because i don’t understand anything.

[bozotheclown]

ISO me, Flavius?

And can anyone explain how my posts are “forced”? I always post like this.

Sorry for silencio last night guys, was planning to chime in but Halloween party went late.

At least 1 post planned, just need some sit-down time on my laptop before I have to run out the door.

You always post like this isn't great considering you were mafia last game.

That is a good point.

[Kitsune]

This does look like a scum slip, and his explanation so far is not very convincing.

I don't understand what we've found here.

Not saying you're wrong, but can you explain?

Once again:

It's pretty clear.

Bo_Sox's reaction test was focused on Damo.
Flavius states unambiguously that Bo_Sox "found a scum".
Thus, he behaves as if he knows Damo's alignment.
Damo is still alive and it is too early for a scan to have happened.

Therefore......

Thanks Jamie,

That makes sense now, and I agree it's a bit suspicious.

I haven't had to actually find scum before, just plausible reasons they could be scum. This is kind of fun :3

[BunnyGo]

Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn! Ph'nglui mglw'nfah Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!

See. This. This needed a link to the meme.

[bozotheclown]

Over 20 hours ago I asked everyone to give me their opinion on whether they think this quote from Kitsune is suspicious, and I believe only 2 players responded. My vote for Kitsune is based on this one quote, where it seems to me she is saying that when she voted for me in M49 she thought I might be mafia, even though she was mafia and therefore knew I was not.

In M49 (yes I know. Shush, it's all I have to go on) I found that bozo was pushing a plan I didn't entirely agree with and seemed to push it despite attempts to distract him into doing something else. As a result and developing my town hunting techniques I voted to lynch him on Day 1 and he flipped town.

Bob understands what I'm saying, and agrees it makes sense here:

Maybe scum slip is the wrong term, but I think it is scum indicative. The part about scum reading me in M49 is relevant in that she was mafia in M49, and could not be scum reading me.

I think the idea here is that Kitsune was looking for behaviour that if she had been town would have considered scummy among the people she knew weren't mafia. It makes sense to me. She was scumreading someone that conceivably seemed like scum but that she knew wasn't scum.

I'm not going to spend the next few hours defending myself.

In a way it actually reinforces my (limited) observations if they come from a proven (dead) townclear, and while I feel my powers would be useful there are definitely more powerful roles out there.

I do wish more of the reasons people have for scumleaning me weren't "she seems town. but she was scum last game and she seemed town!"

Anyway. Going to keep playing the game, which is not "Cover your ass M50.1"

Yes, Bob was one of the player who responded, and he did not agree with me, and I have taken that into consideration. I am interested in as many opinions as possible.

[Vaporwave]

as much as I want to see Jamie pegged,

there is rationality with Flav's scumslip

I'm not sure if I'm buying his fast typing as an excuse

consider my vote on him for now

[FlaviusAetius]

ISO me, Flavius?

And can anyone explain how my posts are “forced”? I always post like this.

Sorry for silencio last night guys, was planning to chime in but Halloween party went late.

At least 1 post planned, just need some sit-down time on my laptop before I have to run out the door.

You always post like this isn't great considering you were mafia last game.

Dont judge him based off of last game, he could just hide behind that and do soemthing different and say hey look, I was mafia last game, this isnt my meta im doing something completely different! I MUST be town! But now if he does that your going to say he's scum too, seems no matter WHAT he does, he's scum to you >.>

[Jamiet99uk]

as much as I want to see Jamie pegged

Eww. Keep your sexual fantasies to yourself.

[Kitsune]

ISO me, Flavius?

And can anyone explain how my posts are “forced”? I always post like this.

Sorry for silencio last night guys, was planning to chime in but Halloween party went late.

At least 1 post planned, just need some sit-down time on my laptop before I have to run out the door.

You always post like this isn't great considering you were mafia last game.

That is a good point.

That is not a good point.

A sequence with one data point is not useful and doesn't prove anything.

I post chunks when I can analyse on my laptop and have something to analyse.

I post short comments when I'm on my phone, don't have time or don't have something to analyse.

My posting style is NAI and in 50.0 I barely had time to glance at the game before I was lynched.