M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

[Squigs44]

Okay looked through BobMcBobs iso. Most of his posts are either hedgy, agreeing with someone else, asking for validation, or apologizing for being a noob. I know some new players play this way as town, but more likely than not this ends up being scared scum.
Looking at Bob's reads, he had a vote on Bo early. Bob did post a more detailed reads list, but Bob basically townreads those that are posting more, with one exception. He scumreads Kitsune with: "Kitsune is my scumread so far, she's acting odd, seems somewhat forced, and there seems to be a fair few other scumreads on her too".

Can you elaborate on this post Bob?

[Jamiet99uk]

How do you know bo sox found a scum?

I dont...?

But you said Bo_Sox found a scum, didn't you?

Why did you say that if you didn't know?

[BunnyGo]

And in reference to the post I quoted at you Bunny, I am going to point that flavius did just drop an interesting 'too much information' without an obvious 'oh, he just had one typo in his post'.

##vote FlaviusAetius

Sorry, this I don’t understand

[FlaviusAetius]

Don't under estimate Flav. I fell victim to it the first game he played here and felt like a fool for it.

... Sorry for being passionate? lol, cmon stop relying on people's metas to solve everything, it doesnt work and people will hide behind it. Look at what people say then react accordingly, treat every new game as a new game, simple dimples

It's not hiding behind meta to point out that you are smart enough to know to play people's expectations of you against them. It's acknowledging your ability to be deceptive that most of us learned a hard lesson on.

Im not deceptive, Im just active, dont conflate the two. And this dont go after the meta argument relies on perhaps me more than anyone. If you look at my meta you'll see I'm active, super active no matter what I am, because 1) I really like mafia and 2) I want to help and participate

So people might say oh he's just active so dont worry about him he's always like this! What does that do for me, then? It means I can literally do whatever I want and hide like TrPrado has been saying. So stop using the meta to hunt, it doesnt help, and allows people to 'buck' their meta to trick anyone and everyone

[FlaviusAetius]

hey ##vote Flavious, how do you know Bo sox caught scum?

I dont

[Jamiet99uk]

Bozotheclown has not posted for a very long time.

[Jamiet99uk]

hey ##vote Flavious, how do you know Bo sox caught scum?

I dont

#butyousaidyoudid

[FlaviusAetius]

It could be, I said this more then once, be sure to check other games too.

It's a pretty stupid reason to vote someone by the way, but seems you always find a way to scumread me.

Hey dude I did a big ISO on you why didnt you even care to read it, care to respond to it? I'll bump it for you after I finish catching up, but basically your one mr. flip floppity man!

You did, but you didn't ask a single question, what do you want me to address? I change my mind, specially on D1, what's the big deal?

iso on rdrivera

he likes the mass claim concept
hates the mass claim concept after Assasin hole
is now against bozo's popcorn idea which works against assasin loophole, makes me question whether he supported massclaim at all in the beginning

says a whole bunch of stuff i agree with;
-It was a really poor shot on Bo, unless it was scum who did it.
-I am having town vibes from Bozo and Bunny. Not that much on Damo.
-I am sensing something weird on Kitsune as if she is working too hard on his posts
-I also didn't like Bob reads post, feels forced and hedgy as fuck, but I am giving him the noob benefit of doubt.
-Where is Vecna?

yea he tries to justify siding with the pseudo-massclaim idea from bozo, but if he was principled he would of been against massclaim from the start

me and him get into a spat on mechanics about Ezio, and decides Ezio isnt cleared, but decides to vote on him anyways, despite thinking it was a trick

he responds to xorxes' calling him out on it by saying he doesnt need a reason for wanting Ezio lynched, DESPITE HIM SAYING IN A FEW POSTS ABOVE about how he wasnt cleared

mr. flip floppity flips!

You voted for Ezio despite saying for the majority of your posts of how Ezio was innocent, it doesnt make sense why you would literally just flip flop with no reasons whatsoever

[Vaporwave]

Can I ask you why you would think your role description wasn't publicly available when they are almost always publicly available (only closed games don't have them)?
[/quote]

I thought semi-open would hide mafia roles and I haven't clicked o that doc

Use me as a negative example, folks! Always read everything including links provided by Gms

[FlaviusAetius]

I don't know if it was a slip so much as passionately trying to find a reason to call Ezio scum and needing to differentiate him from bo.

Why would a town player want to passionately point at someone as scum on D1?

because they said the forbidden words? what more reason do you need?

[Ezio]

hey ##vote Flavious, how do you know Bo sox caught scum?

I dont

Then what did you mean to say when you said he: " kept the fueling of the flames, and found a scum,"

[Vaporwave]

Never thought I would say this, but Bob McBob has shown himself as the most prominent town player

Also curious why this is something you wouldn't think to say? Is that a judgement on Bob himself or more that your normal 'town core' is under performing?

you took the words right out of my mouth

[Jamiet99uk]

THE FORBIDDEN WORDS

[Kitsune]

ISO me, Flavius?

And can anyone explain how my posts are “forced”? I always post like this.

Sorry for silencio last night guys, was planning to chime in but Halloween party went late.

At least 1 post planned, just need some sit-down time on my laptop before I have to run out the door.

[Jamiet99uk]

Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn! Ph'nglui mglw'nfah Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!

[FlaviusAetius]

ISO me, Flavius?

And can anyone explain how my posts are “forced”? I always post like this.

Sorry for silencio last night guys, was planning to chime in but Halloween party went late.

At least 1 post planned, just need some sit-down time on my laptop before I have to run out the door.

ok!

[bozotheclown]

D1 reads aren't forever - reminder for those trying to twist my arm later

Town: Bob-bozo-Ezio-Kitsune*-Squigs-Prado

Funny: BunnyG-Temasek

Not impressed: damo-dargo-Jamie-Vecna-worcej

Scum possibilities: Bionic - Flaetius-rivera-

don't ask me about xorxes yet

* Kit has acting skills and she fooled me last game

You broke my heart.

That's what you said to Vecna in a recent game when you were scum and he scumread you. Someone check Gladiator game please.

##VOTE rdrivera

From M48:

Just when I go and write good feelings in my readslist, and then Chaqa goes and does this dramatic pose again, with pretending to be clueless about why foodcoats.

blegh.

Im actually also really not that goody-goody on Rdrivera anymore.

You break my heart.

[Kitsune]

@Kit, shaking away the feeling that you're OMGUSsing me, I have to say that my OG vote for you is bcuz of the others' observations which I mostly agree. As for the Ezio vote, the chances that he is scum outweigh the chances that he's town

Okay, so taking these one at a time.

You voted for me without giving any particular reason, and when challenged on this (twice) by me finally come back with "uh... what the other people said? I guess?" Not great, but could be scummy bandwagon or lazy town.

No original insights? You say you mostly agree. What do you agree with? What do you not agree with? Do you remember what these observations are that you allegedly agree with, or do you need to go back and check the bot again?

Secondly the Ezio vote. You say you voted Ezio because the chances that he is scum outweigh the chances he is town.

Your post voting for Ezio:

RE:Ezio and the entire hammerer shenanigans

Given that the hammerer can say the 5 magic words and end the day as long as it is in the 12 hour window of the final magic word. The plan to have everyone say it wouldn't work. And given Ezio has only 4 posts and suddenly said the magic phrase, there are a few possible possibilities, from most likely to least...

1) Ezio is clueless TOWN, and with minimal time scanning the thread he saw this such plan and jumped on it, not knowing it wouldn't work.

2) Ezio is a less important [color=#FFCCCBMAFIA][/color] role, possibly the traitor who has fired his shot and is entirely clueless about his team, he tries to distract attention from the actual hammerer who might be completing their phrase.

3) Ezio is a THIRD PARTY who wants to stir up the pot. In this case, he messed up.

4) Ezio is the actual [color=#FFCCCBMAFIA][/color] hammerer, he didn't really read his role clearly and messed this up.

##Vote Ezio

You posted that the possibilities from most likely to least are:

1. Clueless Town
2. Clueless/Less Important Mafia, possible the Traitor
3. 3P
4. Hammerer who messed up.

So given at the time you posted that you felt the most likely possibility was that Ezio was town (or at least that's what you said), why is voting town your top priority?

Scummy.

[Jamiet99uk]

Kitsune has a point there.

[bozotheclown]

Over 20 hours ago I asked everyone to give me their opinion on whether they think this quote from Kitsune is suspicious, and I believe only 2 players responded. My vote for Kitsune is based on this one quote, where it seems to me she is saying that when she voted for me in M49 she thought I might be mafia, even though she was mafia and therefore knew I was not.

In M49 (yes I know. Shush, it's all I have to go on) I found that bozo was pushing a plan I didn't entirely agree with and seemed to push it despite attempts to distract him into doing something else. As a result and developing my town hunting techniques I voted to lynch him on Day 1 and he flipped town.