M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

[rdrivera2005]

? I dont...? lol

How do you not? You seemed pretty confident before.

When? Where? I literally have said zero things on anything about damo I have no idea what you are even talking about, sorry try again

You literally said Bo found a scum. Who is the scum he found?

[TrPrado]

I don't know if it was a slip so much as passionately trying to find a reason to call Ezio scum and needing to differentiate him from bo.

[rdrivera2005]

I don't know if it was a slip so much as passionately trying to find a reason to call Ezio scum and needing to differentiate him from bo.

Care to let him answer you tool.

[TrPrado]

To me it seems anti-town. Maybe I’m wrong. But it seems like you caused a commotion. Allowed people to focus on you and not much else. Then came back with basically nothing. You’re at best neutral, and it seems detrimental.

Causing a commotion is inherently better for town than trying to stop conversation from happening at all.

Both aren't good options...?

Commotions generate content, and content is always good for town.

[Jamiet99uk]

Im not saying it wasnt a reaction test, but look at the differences between bo's and ezio's reaction tests. One kept the fueling of the flames, and found a scum, not only that he didnt do literally the only reaction test that a scum must say to enact their ability.
Ezio said the forbidden words, dropped off the face of earth, caused huge disruption, and now people are playing with nonsense to prove his innocence

Oh my.

Flavius just scumslipped AND slipped his team mate Damo too.

##VOTE FLAVIUS

Explain as if you were worcej

It's pretty clear.

Bo_Sox's reaction test was focused on Damo.
Flavius states unambiguously that Bo_Sox "found a scum".
Thus, he behaves as if he knows Damo's alignment.
Damo is still alive and it is too early for a scan to have happened.

Therefore......

[worcej]

I don't know if it was a slip so much as passionately trying to find a reason to call Ezio scum and needing to differentiate him from bo.

Why would a town player want to passionately point at someone as scum on D1?

[Ezio]

You don't have any major scumreads, you want Vecna or rivera lynched cause you can't read them correctly

Is Bob your only scumspect out of all the people that piled on you?

What's your take on Jamie?

to say I don't have any major scumreads is inaccurate. I majorly scumread bobmcbob as I made an entire post explaining my scumread on him.

Obviously he's the only one who I took note of, and I didn't put anyone else on the scumread so you can infer at that time I only scumread bobmcbob. I might be weird again but when my scumreads change I usually post about the change.

I currently have no take on Jamiet. Has he said anything?

40 pages of content, you find literally one single comment, and determine, ok guys I know this had literally nothing to do with my supposed reaction test, but this person is scum! Ok im done haha!
Ridiculous.

Seems to me your entire game exists soley because of my single comment.

Seems like you've set the bar for me to be much higher than the bar for yourself.

[FlaviusAetius]

@BionicMole You're not allowed to +1 posts in the mafia thread unless they're GM posts. Would you mind wihdrawing this +1 and any others?

Also, I strongly disagree with Flav here. Ezio seems to have been doing a reaction test, not a troll, although it may look like that. I know you don't appreciate or agree with reaction tests, but some people like them and will do them anyway. I'm going to be really annoyed and surprised if Ezio turns out to be scum. Either way, I think his play was good.

Im not saying it wasnt a reaction test, but look at the differences between bo's and ezio's reaction tests. One kept the fueling of the flames, and found a scum, not only that he didnt do literally the only reaction test that a scum must say to enact their ability.
Ezio said the forbidden words, dropped off the face of earth, caused huge disruption, and now people are playing with nonsense to prove his innocence

Stop calling them the forbidden words. There is literally only one person in this entire game who we would ever have to worry about saying them, and it's unproductive to just outright ban them and lynch everyone who says them. Also, when you say bo caught scum, does this mean that you are certain damo is scum?

I type at a thousand miles a mintue, yea I dont think damo is actually scum never said it once before, dont believe it now I actually havent looked at him at all so theres that

[Jamiet99uk]

I type at a thousand miles a mintue, yea I dont think damo is actually scum never said it once before, dont believe it now I actually havent looked at him at all so theres that

**furious back-pedalling intensifies**

[FlaviusAetius]

You said nobody could come up with any reason for Ezio's behaviour other "besides scum, distraction, or trolling".

If you had been reading with greater vigilance, you would have seen people suggesting Ezio could be the Tanner.

Isn't it strange you didn't notice that, and thus made the innacurate post quoted above...?

Wrong. One of the people who actually thought Ezio was scum said there was a small possibility he was Tanner, but still what he was doing was basically just a distraction, you putting things out of order

False.

By the time you made the above statement on page 30, BunnyGo, Kitsune, BionicMole, and myself, had all been speculating that Ezio was the Tanner.

You're not following the thread very carefully. You're just manufacturing little storms of fake anger.

First time I saw the Tanner option even pop up was when that one person, pretty sure it was Bob who made all the options of what Ezio could be, it seem, and all of them didnt spell anything could for Town

[FlaviusAetius]

anything good* for Town

[Jamiet99uk]

Flavius: Did you, or did you not, say that Bo_Sox "found a scum" ?

[BionicMole]

I said I wasn't 100% convinced that Ezio is the hammer and wanted to hear what he had to say about his strategy before I made a final decision. I am with Vapor on this and need a little more explanation on what he wanted to find out and what he actually did find out.

I'm still trying to work out how to read roles and things like that so I can be more helpful in the hunt.

I am going to hold my vote in place for the moment because my gut tells me Ezio might be the Tanner trying to get shot to meet his win criteria, although I would rather vote with my head instead of my gut.

If I do change my vote it would create a tie and there would be no harm, no foul. I have read in my preparation for this, my first game, that a "nolynch" is not a desirable outcome because it does not provide any new information. I would love to hear some experienced opinions on how a "nolynch" would affect the outcome of EOD1.

Why are you afraid of tanner meeting their win condition?

Tanner holds no allegiance to anybody so any contribution to the hunt will not be true or serve our needs. It could end up being dangerous as he may spread misinformation or redirect the narrative to suit his needs instead of the needs of the greater good.

[Jamiet99uk]

First time I saw the Tanner option even pop up was when that one person, pretty sure it was Bob who made all the options of what Ezio could be, it seem, and all of them didnt spell anything could for Town

All the same, if you search "tanner" in the Bot, you will see that I am right and you are wrong, and thus I have good reason to purport that you are not following the thread as carefully as you purport to be.

[FlaviusAetius]

Also, I strongly disagree with Flav here. Ezio seems to have been doing a reaction test, not a troll, although it may look like that. I know you don't appreciate or agree with reaction tests, but some people like them and will do them anyway. I'm going to be really annoyed and surprised if Ezio turns out to be scum. Either way, I think his play was good.

Im not saying it wasnt a reaction test, but look at the differences between bo's and ezio's reaction tests. One kept the fueling of the flames, and found a scum, not only that he didnt do literally the only reaction test that a scum must say to enact their ability.
Ezio said the forbidden words, dropped off the face of earth, caused huge disruption, and now people are playing with nonsense to prove his innocence

Oh my.

Flavius just scumslipped AND slipped his team mate Damo too.

##VOTE FLAVIUS

... listen no I didnt I just didnt. I was typing a thousand miles a mintue trying to catch up I read fast type even faster, it was an honest to god mistype.

[TrPrado]

I said I wasn't 100% convinced that Ezio is the hammer and wanted to hear what he had to say about his strategy before I made a final decision. I am with Vapor on this and need a little more explanation on what he wanted to find out and what he actually did find out.

I'm still trying to work out how to read roles and things like that so I can be more helpful in the hunt.

I am going to hold my vote in place for the moment because my gut tells me Ezio might be the Tanner trying to get shot to meet his win criteria, although I would rather vote with my head instead of my gut.

If I do change my vote it would create a tie and there would be no harm, no foul. I have read in my preparation for this, my first game, that a "nolynch" is not a desirable outcome because it does not provide any new information. I would love to hear some experienced opinions on how a "nolynch" would affect the outcome of EOD1.

Why are you afraid of tanner meeting their win condition?

Tanner holds no allegiance to anybody so any contribution to the hunt will not be true or serve our needs. It could end up being dangerous as he may spread misinformation or redirect the narrative to suit his needs instead of the needs of the greater good.

If they get shot they can win and then continue to contribute and won't have needs or ulterior motives

[FlaviusAetius]

Some of us are old enough to remember them.

@ezio: your strategy sucks. You didn’t even comment on me and I’m posting a metric ton and about you too. You comment that voting for someone who flips town must be scum is dumb this early. A townie getting their feet under them is likely to do that.

I still think you’re one of the 6 categories I previously mentioned. Why do we want you in the game if you’re just going to cause trouble, distract everybody, and come back with two posts of questionable content? You haven’t even cleared yourself yet.

AGREED. He acted like nothing happened, and didnt even have to defend himself, its so evident he is guilty, and is relying on other people to defend him, hilarious

You're saying it's "so evident I'm guilty". Guilty of what, exactly?

Being the hammeer? Is this even a serious comment? lol

[FlaviusAetius]

@BionicMole You're not allowed to +1 posts in the mafia thread unless they're GM posts. Would you mind wihdrawing this +1 and any others?

Also, I strongly disagree with Flav here. Ezio seems to have been doing a reaction test, not a troll, although it may look like that. I know you don't appreciate or agree with reaction tests, but some people like them and will do them anyway. I'm going to be really annoyed and surprised if Ezio turns out to be scum. Either way, I think his play was good.

Im not saying it wasnt a reaction test, but look at the differences between bo's and ezio's reaction tests. One kept the fueling of the flames, and found a scum, not only that he didnt do literally the only reaction test that a scum must say to enact their ability.
Ezio said the forbidden words, dropped off the face of earth, caused huge disruption, and now people are playing with nonsense to prove his innocence

The fact that a scum must say it makes it the best reaction test possible. It's clear and obvious what's happening so everyone sees it, and there was clearly no risk to it.

How do you know bo sox found a scum?

I dont...?

[TrPrado]

The day didn't hammer. Are you saying the legitimate hammerer would say the phrase then immediately call it off and not post at all during the twelve hour period?

[FlaviusAetius]

I dont understand why we are just letting everyone say these words now, we banned it in the beginning, we talked so much about how its very important that no one says this, so we stop the hammerer from doing so. By doing this we let the hammerer be forced to expose himself and we easily catch a mafia. Instead if two people say the words then the REAL hammerer can just blame it all the other person, it makes no sense. We turned something that is GUARANTEED going to catch a mafia to now something that REQUIRES a HUGE fight between one or even MORE people

-1

This conversation never happened, and the premise is not a good one. Again, if you ban them, then the only effect this has is Hammerer finding something you're not looking for and do it anyway and have an easier time getting away with it. Preemptively banning everyone who meets criteria of "uh oh they said these certain words" does not help us figure out the game. It also creates an alley where the rest of the scum team can build cred they absolutely don't deserve.

If no one says it, we play the game normally, pretending it doesnt exist until someone says it. No one gets cred for saying it, no one gets cred for not saying it, and anyone who does say it, gets lynched, seems simple enough for me