M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

[Jamiet99uk]

Also, I strongly disagree with Flav here. Ezio seems to have been doing a reaction test, not a troll, although it may look like that. I know you don't appreciate or agree with reaction tests, but some people like them and will do them anyway. I'm going to be really annoyed and surprised if Ezio turns out to be scum. Either way, I think his play was good.

Im not saying it wasnt a reaction test, but look at the differences between bo's and ezio's reaction tests. One kept the fueling of the flames, and found a scum, not only that he didnt do literally the only reaction test that a scum must say to enact their ability.
Ezio said the forbidden words, dropped off the face of earth, caused huge disruption, and now people are playing with nonsense to prove his innocence

Oh my.

Flavius just scumslipped AND slipped his team mate Damo too.

##VOTE FLAVIUS

[KalelChase]

It's nice to see Ezio coming in now that the 12 hour period expired. I don't know what people mean by "distracted" because if anything the fiacso only generated content. Approximately 12 hours worth which won't be too hard to read since it's primarily focused on a single topic. The conversation prior to it was essentially over and done with nobody really interested in keeping it going. D1 will continue to be an interesting read to parse through once we've let the dust settle.

I've kept my vote on Ezio not because I thought Scum, but because I saw what they triggered as a distraction. In the 1.25 games I've played in I've had a bias against volume posters because I felt it was creating more noise, making it harder for Town to find the signal. Considering it's D1, & TrPrado's synopsis here I have changed my mind on this point. I'm going to give Ezio the benefit of the doubt.

I am not going to play this one by just jumping on wagons (that didn't serve me as town last time), so I'm going to stop being afraid of going out on my own.

Looking at my spreadsheet (Bob it's funny, I did the same thing in my first game, now I'm on 2.0 we should swap at the end)...

Damo's got a lot of points against,
Jumped on Bo, backed up by "just attitude"
"I think Bo is assassin"
And a pair of gut votes.
and after an ISO I'm comfortable going that route.
No hard feelings, ##Vote Damo

[Ezio]

There are other Rick Astley songs??!!??

Some of us are old enough to remember them.

@ezio: your strategy sucks. You didn’t even comment on me and I’m posting a metric ton and about you too. You comment that voting for someone who flips town must be scum is dumb this early. A townie getting their feet under them is likely to do that.

I still think you’re one of the 6 categories I previously mentioned. Why do we want you in the game if you’re just going to cause trouble, distract everybody, and come back with two posts of questionable content? You haven’t even cleared yourself yet.

AGREED. He acted like nothing happened, and didnt even have to defend himself, its so evident he is guilty, and is relying on other people to defend him, hilarious

You're saying it's "so evident I'm guilty". Guilty of what, exactly?

[Squigs44]

Ill come to shine very brightly soon. Still have guests in my house and were about to go out for dinner.

Not sure ill get to participate at all tonight, so ill just leave a meaningless vote

##vote Rdrivera pretty sure that boy never gets run up on day1

Xorxes AND Vecna voting for the same person? I'm tempted to join them even if their reasons are flimsy/non-existent.

[FlaviusAetius]

Re: looking for the hammerereer
I agree with Prado. There are too many places and ways to hide the words. And the power is not all that strong yet. Looking for words will be a good confirmation tool.

I regret the time I spent looking.

Your acting like looking for words is this big time consuming thing, its not, just ban it, if anyone says it we lynch, end of story. We can focus on other things while it happens, but guess what? Someone said it, how are we not acting upon it?

[Ezio]

What else are we supposed to do? Here are the options as I see them:

1) He's and incompetent RickRoll --->> LET'S LYNCH

2) He's doing some weird double bluff as scum ---->> LET'S LYNCH

3) He's a townie trolling all of us. Well why do we want a townie trolling us??!-->>LET'S LYNCH

Am I wrong? If we don't have anything better going on?

@BionicMole You're not allowed to +1 posts in the mafia thread unless they're GM posts. Would you mind wihdrawing this +1 and any others?

Also, I strongly disagree with Flav here. Ezio seems to have been doing a reaction test, not a troll, although it may look like that. I know you don't appreciate or agree with reaction tests, but some people like them and will do them anyway. I'm going to be really annoyed and surprised if Ezio turns out to be scum. Either way, I think his play was good.

Im not saying it wasnt a reaction test, but look at the differences between bo's and ezio's reaction tests. One kept the fueling of the flames, and found a scum, not only that he didnt do literally the only reaction test that a scum must say to enact their ability.
Ezio said the forbidden words, dropped off the face of earth, caused huge disruption, and now people are playing with nonsense to prove his innocence

The fact that a scum must say it makes it the best reaction test possible. It's clear and obvious what's happening so everyone sees it, and there was clearly no risk to it.

How do you know bo sox found a scum?

[worcej]

I believe Ezip is town.

##vote Vecna until town behaviour

I know you're busy and all, but can you get any more low effort?

Have you not paid attention to my complaints on Damo in the past?

Not that I am being a huge pusher atm, but damo has yet to ever lead a case on anything that I can recall, which in turn creates a huge issue down the road because when he actually solves a game and makes an observation, few listen to him.

[Squigs44]

You don't have any major scumreads, you want Vecna or rivera lynched cause you can't read them correctly

Is Bob your only scumspect out of all the people that piled on you?

What's your take on Jamie?

to say I don't have any major scumreads is inaccurate. I majorly scumread bobmcbob as I made an entire post explaining my scumread on him.

Obviously he's the only one who I took note of, and I didn't put anyone else on the scumread so you can infer at that time I only scumread bobmcbob. I might be weird again but when my scumreads change I usually post about the change.

I currently have no take on Jamiet. Has he said anything?

Nothing. This is my first post.

You've come a long ways since you advocated lynch the liar

[BunnyGo]

Causing a commotion is inherently better for town than trying to stop conversation from happening at all.

Ok...but it was all about him. Is that pro-town?

Doesn't matter what the conversation is about, what is telling is when you find people operating off more information than they should have.

This is why I like you. You make it easy to understand.

If not NICU what do you do for work? Teacher?

[worcej]

Also, I strongly disagree with Flav here. Ezio seems to have been doing a reaction test, not a troll, although it may look like that. I know you don't appreciate or agree with reaction tests, but some people like them and will do them anyway. I'm going to be really annoyed and surprised if Ezio turns out to be scum. Either way, I think his play was good.

Im not saying it wasnt a reaction test, but look at the differences between bo's and ezio's reaction tests. One kept the fueling of the flames, and found a scum, not only that he didnt do literally the only reaction test that a scum must say to enact their ability.
Ezio said the forbidden words, dropped off the face of earth, caused huge disruption, and now people are playing with nonsense to prove his innocence

Oh my.

Flavius just scumslipped AND slipped his team mate Damo too.

##VOTE FLAVIUS

[worcej]

Ok...but it was all about him. Is that pro-town?

Doesn't matter what the conversation is about, what is telling is when you find people operating off more information than they should have.

This is why I like you. You make it easy to understand.

If not NICU what do you do for work? Teacher?

Chemical Engineer, specifically a Process Engineer, in a papermill.

[Jamiet99uk]

I currently have no take on Jamiet. Has he said anything?

Nothing. This is my first post.

You've come a long ways since you advocated lynch the liar

You've got a little way to go before you can identify the difference between lies and sarcasm.

[Squigs44]

rivera has used emotional triggers to make people change their mind when he was a scumbo in gladiators' game, but I'm not sure if that's only when he's scum

I saw rivera saying 'I love you too' when people were scumreading him or criticizing his points

it's NAI basically and I'm saying this as someone that doesn't townread rivera in this game

When Ezio voted BobMcBob, vapor said Bob was a prominent town.
When Xorxes voted Rdrivera, Vapor comes in and defends him

I'm starting to see a pattern

Which pattern?

Of Vaporwave defending people

[FlaviusAetius]

I still think most of you are falling for the ezio troll so far, but I get the precautionary placement of votes.

Why would he troll? It just doesnt make any sense, and sounds like a convenient excuse

I mean, nothing happened is the first indication. I guess the better question is do we lynch him anyway because he said it?

If the forbidden words mean literally anything, yes. Yes we do lynch him, these words need to have weight and if we cant act upon it, I am afraid anyone can get away with saying them...even the hammerer(ezio)

[worcej]

And in reference to the post I quoted at you Bunny, I am going to point that flavius did just drop an interesting 'too much information' without an obvious 'oh, he just had one typo in his post'.

##vote FlaviusAetius

[rdrivera2005]

Also, I strongly disagree with Flav here. Ezio seems to have been doing a reaction test, not a troll, although it may look like that. I know you don't appreciate or agree with reaction tests, but some people like them and will do them anyway. I'm going to be really annoyed and surprised if Ezio turns out to be scum. Either way, I think his play was good.

Im not saying it wasnt a reaction test, but look at the differences between bo's and ezio's reaction tests. One kept the fueling of the flames, and found a scum, not only that he didnt do literally the only reaction test that a scum must say to enact their ability.
Ezio said the forbidden words, dropped off the face of earth, caused huge disruption, and now people are playing with nonsense to prove his innocence

Oh my.

Flavius just scumslipped AND slipped his team mate Damo too.

##VOTE FLAVIUS

I usually don't believe on scumslip, but this statement is really weird.

[TrPrado]

I dont understand why we are just letting everyone say these words now, we banned it in the beginning, we talked so much about how its very important that no one says this, so we stop the hammerer from doing so. By doing this we let the hammerer be forced to expose himself and we easily catch a mafia. Instead if two people say the words then the REAL hammerer can just blame it all the other person, it makes no sense. We turned something that is GUARANTEED going to catch a mafia to now something that REQUIRES a HUGE fight between one or even MORE people

-1

This conversation never happened, and the premise is not a good one. Again, if you ban them, then the only effect this has is Hammerer finding something you're not looking for and do it anyway and have an easier time getting away with it. Preemptively banning everyone who meets criteria of "uh oh they said these certain words" does not help us figure out the game. It also creates an alley where the rest of the scum team can build cred they absolutely don't deserve.

[FlaviusAetius]

Actually this Vecna and Vapor thing fits perfectly, Vecna wasnt actually mafia, and so he said it, he actually didnt have good intentions since he was 3p, but regardless, Vapor actually was it, and thought he could get away with it, then said it, guess what no dice. But look everyone's been on, no one tried to get away with it by saying the forbidden words, all things point to Ezio

https://imgflip.com/i/3eumfk

At this point I'm leaning towards Flav being town because I'm not sure scum Flav could keep this up

Don't under estimate Flav. I fell victim to it the first game he played here and felt like a fool for it.

... Sorry for being passionate? lol, cmon stop relying on people's metas to solve everything, it doesnt work and people will hide behind it. Look at what people say then react accordingly, treat every new game as a new game, simple dimples

[Squigs44]

Also, I strongly disagree with Flav here. Ezio seems to have been doing a reaction test, not a troll, although it may look like that. I know you don't appreciate or agree with reaction tests, but some people like them and will do them anyway. I'm going to be really annoyed and surprised if Ezio turns out to be scum. Either way, I think his play was good.

Im not saying it wasnt a reaction test, but look at the differences between bo's and ezio's reaction tests. One kept the fueling of the flames, and found a scum, not only that he didnt do literally the only reaction test that a scum must say to enact their ability.
Ezio said the forbidden words, dropped off the face of earth, caused huge disruption, and now people are playing with nonsense to prove his innocence

Oh my.

Flavius just scumslipped AND slipped his team mate Damo too.

##VOTE FLAVIUS

I'm so torn. My heart says to vote Flav, but my brain says that it's just Flav saying something stupid.

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm so torn. My heart says to vote Flav, but my brain says that it's just Flav saying something stupid.

Careful talking about your heart. Xorxes might scumread you for it.