M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

[FlaviusAetius]

You're not reading the thread very carefully are you?

Im reading every last word, how about you dont just throw down accusations and back to up with an actual argument

You said nobody could come up with any reason for Ezio's behaviour other "besides scum, distraction, or trolling".

If you had been reading with greater vigilance, you would have seen people suggesting Ezio could be the Tanner.

Isn't it strange you didn't notice that, and thus made the innacurate post quoted above...?

Wrong. One of the people who actually thought Ezio was scum said there was a small possibility he was Tanner, but still what he was doing was basically just a distraction, you putting things out of order

[worcej]

Never thought I would say this, but Bob McBob has shown himself as the most prominent town player

Also curious why this is something you wouldn't think to say? Is that a judgement on Bob himself or more that your normal 'town core' is under performing?

[FlaviusAetius]

I still think most of you are falling for the ezio troll so far, but I get the precautionary placement of votes.

What else are we supposed to do? Here are the options as I see them:

1) He's and incompetent RickRoll --->> LET'S LYNCH

2) He's doing some weird double bluff as scum ---->> LET'S LYNCH

3) He's a townie trolling all of us. Well why do we want a townie trolling us??!-->>LET'S LYNCH

Am I wrong? If we don't have anything better going on?

@BionicMole You're not allowed to +1 posts in the mafia thread unless they're GM posts. Would you mind wihdrawing this +1 and any others?

Also, I strongly disagree with Flav here. Ezio seems to have been doing a reaction test, not a troll, although it may look like that. I know you don't appreciate or agree with reaction tests, but some people like them and will do them anyway. I'm going to be really annoyed and surprised if Ezio turns out to be scum. Either way, I think his play was good.

Im not saying it wasnt a reaction test, but look at the differences between bo's and ezio's reaction tests. One kept the fueling of the flames, and found a scum, not only that he didnt do literally the only reaction test that a scum must say to enact their ability.
Ezio said the forbidden words, dropped off the face of earth, caused huge disruption, and now people are playing with nonsense to prove his innocence

[worcej]

##VOTE VECNA

I've seen Vecna lurk as scum.

As town Vecna is usually very hunty.

Has the thought crossed your mind that Vecna may disengage or under-perform on D1 in order to make it past N1?

[Squigs44]

I believe Ezip is town.

##vote Vecna until town behaviour

I know you're busy and all, but can you get any more low effort?

[FlaviusAetius]

For the record: I've had that stupid Rick Astley song suck in my head for a whole day. The only cure was other Rick Astley songs...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPYZpwSpKmA

There are other Rick Astley songs??!!??

Some of us are old enough to remember them.

@ezio: your strategy sucks. You didn’t even comment on me and I’m posting a metric ton and about you too. You comment that voting for someone who flips town must be scum is dumb this early. A townie getting their feet under them is likely to do that.

I still think you’re one of the 6 categories I previously mentioned. Why do we want you in the game if you’re just going to cause trouble, distract everybody, and come back with two posts of questionable content? You haven’t even cleared yourself yet.

AGREED. He acted like nothing happened, and didnt even have to defend himself, its so evident he is guilty, and is relying on other people to defend him, hilarious

[worcej]

Why would he troll? It just doesnt make any sense, and sounds like a convenient excuse

I mean, nothing happened is the first indication. I guess the better question is do we lynch him anyway because he said it?

Do you think he is the Tanner?

I honestly don't have Ezio's role pegged. I think his action was definitely NAI - who cares that he said 'the phrase'? As someone else said (cannot remember exactly who), the fact nothing happened does not clear Ezio and the uttering of the phrase does not illicit guilt either.

When the hammer actually happens is when it matters to hunt that player.

[worcej]

Whyever would he want to hammer day one? Is that more likely than wanting to get reactions?

I both like this xorxes comment and also fear it. I should trust my opposite instinct here.

You mean you should dislike Xorxes' comment, despite the fact it makes you feel safe?

What it means is that I should do the opposite of what I think, which means (currently) that I should town-lean him.

It's sad, but usually the opposite of my actual read is true when it comes to xorxes (and some others).

[worcej]

Worcej's iso is full of attitude, but pretty sparse with actual content.

Lots of mechanics talk.
Said Bozo is obvtown.
Seconds a townread of Bo (after Bo was dead)
Says damo's reaction is not out of the ordinary.
Likes a comment of Ezio's.

Worcej I need more from you

Perhaps I am watching more than anything. Hard to drive content when most of what I do irl is work and prevent a 5 week old from dying (pretty accurate summary of a newborn).

Add that damo is town (as of this post I am replying to) imo.
I think Ezio is trolling and there are several people biting hard into that.
xorxes is probably town, but I am terrible at actually reading him so don't take that for much merit.

Is your work in a NICU, or are you a new parent?

New parent, my life is forever changed.

[worcej]

Xorxes, that is a really shitty reason for voting someone. "Oh he used that phrase before when he was scum." Uh... wow, you got him, for sure.

I also thought this but remembered it is D1 and his reasoning is probably better than 50% of the current players votes.

[TrPrado]

What else are we supposed to do? Here are the options as I see them:

1) He's and incompetent RickRoll --->> LET'S LYNCH

2) He's doing some weird double bluff as scum ---->> LET'S LYNCH

3) He's a townie trolling all of us. Well why do we want a townie trolling us??!-->>LET'S LYNCH

Am I wrong? If we don't have anything better going on?

@BionicMole You're not allowed to +1 posts in the mafia thread unless they're GM posts. Would you mind wihdrawing this +1 and any others?

Also, I strongly disagree with Flav here. Ezio seems to have been doing a reaction test, not a troll, although it may look like that. I know you don't appreciate or agree with reaction tests, but some people like them and will do them anyway. I'm going to be really annoyed and surprised if Ezio turns out to be scum. Either way, I think his play was good.

Im not saying it wasnt a reaction test, but look at the differences between bo's and ezio's reaction tests. One kept the fueling of the flames, and found a scum, not only that he didnt do literally the only reaction test that a scum must say to enact their ability.
Ezio said the forbidden words, dropped off the face of earth, caused huge disruption, and now people are playing with nonsense to prove his innocence

Stop calling them the forbidden words. There is literally only one person in this entire game who we would ever have to worry about saying them, and it's unproductive to just outright ban them and lynch everyone who says them. Also, when you say bo caught scum, does this mean that you are certain damo is scum?

[Jamiet99uk]

Im reading every last word, how about you dont just throw down accusations and back to up with an actual argument

You said nobody could come up with any reason for Ezio's behaviour other "besides scum, distraction, or trolling".

If you had been reading with greater vigilance, you would have seen people suggesting Ezio could be the Tanner.

Isn't it strange you didn't notice that, and thus made the innacurate post quoted above...?

Wrong. One of the people who actually thought Ezio was scum said there was a small possibility he was Tanner, but still what he was doing was basically just a distraction, you putting things out of order

False.

By the time you made the above statement on page 30, BunnyGo, Kitsune, BionicMole, and myself, had all been speculating that Ezio was the Tanner.

You're not following the thread very carefully. You're just manufacturing little storms of fake anger.

[FlaviusAetius]

12 hours have passed since Ezio saying the magic words.
The power is still not activated.
I still find Ezio's reaction test distracting, but I'm willing to look at other possible scum. I find yuuki's absence concerning

I mean he was on the forum when he said it and didnt post anything and then we rallied enough people to get him out, there was never an opportunity for him to hammer it without him dying or it ending in a tie, his plan backfired for sure. Or maybe it didn't because it seems he's been 'cleared' in so many people's heads >.>

[worcej]

Do you think I have been Anti-town in play, or are you saying you feel I've been truly neutral and done nothing beneficial or detrimental?

To me it seems anti-town. Maybe I’m wrong. But it seems like you caused a commotion. Allowed people to focus on you and not much else. Then came back with basically nothing. You’re at best neutral, and it seems detrimental.

Causing a commotion is inherently better for town than trying to stop conversation from happening at all.

+1,000,000

[Squigs44]

rivera has used emotional triggers to make people change their mind when he was a scumbo in gladiators' game, but I'm not sure if that's only when he's scum

I saw rivera saying 'I love you too' when people were scumreading him or criticizing his points

it's NAI basically and I'm saying this as someone that doesn't townread rivera in this game

When Ezio voted BobMcBob, vapor said Bob was a prominent town.
When Xorxes voted Rdrivera, Vapor comes in and defends him

I'm starting to see a pattern

[worcej]

To me it seems anti-town. Maybe I’m wrong. But it seems like you caused a commotion. Allowed people to focus on you and not much else. Then came back with basically nothing. You’re at best neutral, and it seems detrimental.

Causing a commotion is inherently better for town than trying to stop conversation from happening at all.

Ok...but it was all about him. Is that pro-town?

Doesn't matter what the conversation is about, what is telling is when you find people operating off more information than they should have.

[worcej]

It is the ultimate irony that Ezio has been shot so often in previous games, but this time, he wants to be shot, and nobody has shot him.

If this turns out to be true in the grand scheme of things, yes it will be funny.

[BunnyGo]

You said nobody could come up with any reason for Ezio's behaviour other "besides scum, distraction, or trolling".

If you had been reading with greater vigilance, you would have seen people suggesting Ezio could be the Tanner.

Isn't it strange you didn't notice that, and thus made the innacurate post quoted above...?

Wrong. One of the people who actually thought Ezio was scum said there was a small possibility he was Tanner, but still what he was doing was basically just a distraction, you putting things out of order

False.

By the time you made the above statement on page 30, BunnyGo, Kitsune, BionicMole, and myself, had all been speculating that Ezio was the Tanner.

You're not following the thread very carefully. You're just manufacturing little storms of fake anger.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nQqkybl7pCg

[FlaviusAetius]

I dont understand why we are just letting everyone say these words now, we banned it in the beginning, we talked so much about how its very important that no one says this, so we stop the hammerer from doing so. By doing this we let the hammerer be forced to expose himself and we easily catch a mafia. Instead if two people say the words then the REAL hammerer can just blame it all the other person, it makes no sense. We turned something that is GUARANTEED going to catch a mafia to now something that REQUIRES a HUGE fight between one or even MORE people

[rdrivera2005]

rivera has used emotional triggers to make people change their mind when he was a scumbo in gladiators' game, but I'm not sure if that's only when he's scum

I saw rivera saying 'I love you too' when people were scumreading him or criticizing his points

it's NAI basically and I'm saying this as someone that doesn't townread rivera in this game

When Ezio voted BobMcBob, vapor said Bob was a prominent town.
When Xorxes voted Rdrivera, Vapor comes in and defends him

I'm starting to see a pattern

Which pattern?