MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[dargorygel]

This is the conflict. I hate seeing horrible analysis. I hate seeing arguments I can't make sense of. BUUUUT I don't really know how to construct my own. Every time I go and do an ISO I come back with "probably town"

With a competent scumteam of course you're gonna come to the conclusion that everyone is town. Actions speak louder than words. That's why VCA is so important and runaway wagons unhelpful.

And just having written that darg's idea is bad.

Every one should just vote for their strongest scumread.

I purport that you dislike my plan simply because you scumlean me.
Please consider it for it's merit.
Or propose another way to bring us together and counter Thanos' power.

[rdrivera2005]

I have a lot to read since last night.

For now ##vote Temasek, he is coasting and had some opportunistic votes. I am still expecting Vapor to show and answer my questions before voting him (sorry if you answered and I didn't read yet).

[dargorygel]

At the risk of saying, "I told you so" THIS is why we needed to catch thanos early.

But I admit that we had no effective plan to do so.

The passing of the stones might have worked, if the passing didn't take so long.

So yes, vote for your best scumread... but be willing to join on a wagon that isn't your BEST choice (still voting for who you think is the best choice.) Don't make multiple wagons for Thanos to manipulate.

Becasue of that:
##VOTE TEMASEK22

[dargorygel]

I have a lot to read since last night.

For now ##vote Temasek, he is coasting and had some opportunistic votes. I am still expecting Vapor to show and answer my questions before voting him (sorry if you answered and I didn't read yet).

Vape's been MIA

[damo666]

This is the conflict. I hate seeing horrible analysis. I hate seeing arguments I can't make sense of. BUUUUT I don't really know how to construct my own. Every time I go and do an ISO I come back with "probably town"

With a competent scumteam of course you're gonna come to the conclusion that everyone is town. Actions speak louder than words. That's why VCA is so important and runaway wagons unhelpful.

And just having written that darg's idea is bad.

Every one should just vote for their strongest scumread.

I purport that you dislike my plan simply because you scumlean me.
Please consider it for it's merit.
Or propose another way to bring us together and counter Thanos' power.

How about the following:

Everybody suggest their top 4 scumreads (just make the best guess you can if you have less than 4). Then at 10.00pm BST (an hour before earliest EOD if timestone through) we collate the suggestions and then people can vote for any of the three most popular. This way we don't get a runaway wagon and can hopefully get some interesting data. Of course we have to worry about vote rigging by Thanos which I think means we have to have a lead of 3. We can ensure this in the last few minutes. What do people think?

[damo666]

At the risk of saying, "I told you so" THIS is why we needed to catch thanos early.

But I admit that we had no effective plan to do so.

The passing of the stones might have worked, if the passing didn't take so long.

So yes, vote for your best scumread... but be willing to join on a wagon that isn't your BEST choice (still voting for who you think is the best choice.) Don't make multiple wagons for Thanos to manipulate.

Becasue of that:
##VOTE TEMASEK22

An actual towny post from darg! (Unless he's bussing Tem).

My confusion grows.

[dargorygel]

@damo
"Everybody suggest their top 4 scumreads (just make the best guess you can if you have less than 4). Then at 10.00pm BST (an hour before earliest EOD if timestone through) we collate the suggestions and then people can vote for any of the three most popular. This way we don't get a runaway wagon and can hopefully get some interesting data. Of course we have to worry about vote rigging by Thanos which I think means we have to have a lead of 3. We can ensure this in the last few minutes. What do people think?"

This is similar enough to my proposal.
I am doing it.
What exactly is the time cutoff for Thanos's time manipulation?

[rdrivera2005]

Also, if the vision stone isn't used by then, I think we can assume that:

Neph's strange 95%--no wait--60% theory may actually hold water and the scum have it

If Vision have the stone taken he should come out and tell us, he will be a pure VT. It can't be emc because he died before the stone was used. I don't see how Nepthys theory makes sense.

[BunnyGo]

Also, if the vision stone isn't used by then, I think we can assume that:

Neph's strange 95%--no wait--60% theory may actually hold water and the scum have it

If Vision have the stone taken he should come out and tell us, he will be a pure VT. It can't be emc because he died before the stone was used. I don't see how Nepthys theory makes sense.

I mean...if EMC was vision and scum used stone on D2...

[BunnyGo]

What exactly is the time cutoff for Thanos's time manipulation?

Up to 12 hours earlier.

So 6 PM Eastern today. (That is just over 8 hours from the time of this posting)

[dargorygel]

SIgh
Stupid time stone
I just was trying to free my schedule to be on at 6PM EST for EoD. I forgot that EoD is 6AM tomorrow.
Bitter remembrances.

[BunnyGo]

SIgh
Stupid time stone
I just was trying to free my schedule to be on at 6PM EST for EoD. I forgot that EoD is 6AM tomorrow.
Bitter remembrances.

In fairness...day may end at 6PM

[dargorygel]

SIgh
Stupid time stone
I just was trying to free my schedule to be on at 6PM EST for EoD. I forgot that EoD is 6AM tomorrow.
Bitter remembrances.

In fairness...day may end at 6PM

Yeah... i'll leave my adjusted schedule the way it is, and be here at 6PM. Just in case.

[damo666]

Also, if the vision stone isn't used by then, I think we can assume that:

Neph's strange 95%--no wait--60% theory may actually hold water and the scum have it

If Vision have the stone taken he should come out and tell us, he will be a pure VT. It can't be emc because he died before the stone was used. I don't see how Nepthys theory makes sense.

I mean...if EMC was vision and scum used stone on D2...

That would be crafty. Craftiness aside rdr has a point.

[damo666]

@damo
"Everybody suggest their top 4 scumreads (just make the best guess you can if you have less than 4). Then at 10.00pm BST (an hour before earliest EOD if timestone through) we collate the suggestions and then people can vote for any of the three most popular. This way we don't get a runaway wagon and can hopefully get some interesting data. Of course we have to worry about vote rigging by Thanos which I think means we have to have a lead of 3. We can ensure this in the last few minutes. What do people think?"

This is similar enough to my proposal.
I am doing it.
What exactly is the time cutoff for Thanos's time manipulation?

OK you go first

[Maniac]

Also, if the vision stone isn't used by then, I think we can assume that:

Neph's strange 95%--no wait--60% theory may actually hold water and the scum have it

If Vision have the stone taken he should come out and tell us, he will be a pure VT. It can't be emc because he died before the stone was used. I don't see how Nepthys theory makes sense.

I mean...if EMC was vision and scum used stone on D2...

Why on earth would scum use the vision stone if they had it. They know everyone's alignment apart from SK. Surely they just wouldn't use the stone to give us a town clear.

[BunnyGo]

If Vision have the stone taken he should come out and tell us, he will be a pure VT. It can't be emc because he died before the stone was used. I don't see how Nepthys theory makes sense.

I mean...if EMC was vision and scum used stone on D2...

Why on earth would scum use the vision stone if they had it. They know everyone's alignment apart from SK. Surely they just wouldn't use the stone to give us a town clear.

Just being thorough

[dargorygel]

@damo
"Everybody suggest their top 4 scumreads (just make the best guess you can if you have less than 4). Then at 10.00pm BST (an hour before earliest EOD if timestone through) we collate the suggestions and then people can vote for any of the three most popular. This way we don't get a runaway wagon and can hopefully get some interesting data. Of course we have to worry about vote rigging by Thanos which I think means we have to have a lead of 3. We can ensure this in the last few minutes. What do people think?"

This is similar enough to my proposal.
I am doing it.
What exactly is the time cutoff for Thanos's time manipulation?

OK you go first

I already did:
I agree to vote for the room majority, among these three candidates:
Vaporwave, Maniac, temasek.
then I added rdr as my fourth.

[rdrivera2005]

Also, if the vision stone isn't used by then, I think we can assume that:

Neph's strange 95%--no wait--60% theory may actually hold water and the scum have it

If Vision have the stone taken he should come out and tell us, he will be a pure VT. It can't be emc because he died before the stone was used. I don't see how Nepthys theory makes sense.

I mean...if EMC was vision and scum used stone on D2...

Why would they do that? Give us a clear to get what in exchange? They can't fake claim Vision as they will have to keep using the Stone.

[dargorygel]

If Vision have the stone taken he should come out and tell us, he will be a pure VT. It can't be emc because he died before the stone was used. I don't see how Nepthys theory makes sense.

I mean...if EMC was vision and scum used stone on D2...

Why on earth would scum use the vision stone if they had it. They know everyone's alignment apart from SK. Surely they just wouldn't use the stone to give us a town clear.

Because it would reveal the role, not just the alignment. They are still PR hunting, a bit. But they might not use it, to keep us from a clear, yes. Depends on how sure they are of their remaining PR guesses.