MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[Nephthys]

Who's hyped, I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna re-read all of Bunny and see what I can come up with. I really don't wanna study.

[Nephthys]

529 posts, I'm lowkey regretting this already

[Nephthys]

Bunny did you do anything to prepare for this game? Read any articles on mafiascum or anything? Would highly recommend

[Nephthys]

So just gonna summarise my findings here because otherwise this would probably come in as my longest ever post (rip my 1500 word essay)

- A lot of pushes with no follow up
- Most of his serious pushes are either revealed town or un-cced PR
- He seems to get mostly triggered by eratic things. Look over the last few pages specifically, this is likely scummy because its the one thing he cant follow.
- There's a bunch of sheeping and excuses for not putting out reads

There are two big things I wanna draw attention to.

1. The ND wagon

Shooting Sulit seems off, the ND railroad never made sense to me.

This is dropped towards the middle of D2. However, going back he never once draws our attention to the ND wagon not making sense, even after the fact. Its only this one comment. This just seems odd, possible S/S. Its definitely not town play though.

2. His treatment of Maniac

There has been extensive defense of Maniac

Of those three I'm feeling EP and to a lesser extent Kalel. Not so much Maniac. The strongest thing against him is that both people who voted against him last time are town. But that doesn't mean they're correct.

alright rivera youre off the hook

##Vote Maniac

I’m confused. What’s going on?

Explain please.

I think the maniac wagon is all town. But I don’t understand the read.

Why not vote EP if on your scum list.

Why vote maniac at all?

Why isn’t EP a secure lynch?

WHAT IS THE CASE ON MANIAC?! How can anyone “like it”?!

'm still waiting for a convincing case on Maniac.

I'm still waiting for same on yuuki.

Kalel I'm ready to hear one as soon as anybody does the legwork.

(Note at this stage he jumps on the Maniac wagon whens its at 8/4, he then bails immediately at the start of the yuuki wagon, he switches back when its xorx bails on it 3 minutes later. He shifts off the Maniac wagon again 40 mins post "EOD" to make it 7/6 yuuki)

Let's assume for a second that Maniac is VT as claimed.

In that case, I really must admit I never understood the claims against him (until he moved to EP after the doctor claim). Is there a danger that Maniac is Gomorra? Can we suss out the SK from this?

It’s a situation where both claims are true (EP =Banner and Maniac = Gomorrah) bit we get in lots of trouble giving you or Jamie the time stone and lynching Maniac.

@food I no longer townread maniac

Can you explain why you did for a time?

To WhAT eNd?

It was during night, so if Maniac scum, then he could use skumchat.

If not scum, who is he signalling? Me? Does he expect me to crack that code?

No no...more likely drunk and using a phone...

@damo

Is Maniac really that good that he could keep begging people to kill him as scum?

All this is encapsulated with Bunny NOT EVEN TOWNREADING MANIAC HALF THE TIME


Like what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuck. There's no way if one is scum the other isnt.

[Nephthys]

Vision should 100% target Maniac, possible 2 for 1 and would all but clear food for bringing it up.

[Nephthys]

So yea pretty good chance Bunny is scum

Replace food with Bunny in my scumteam.

Very unlikely a scum food would call out a scum Bunny when he wasn't getting heat.

[Kitsune]

So yea pretty good chance Bunny is scum

Replace food with Bunny in my scumteam.

Very unlikely a scum food would call out a scum Bunny when he wasn't getting heat.

Then is Vapor still our best lynch?

I really don’t read him as scum.

[Nephthys]

So yea pretty good chance Bunny is scum

Replace food with Bunny in my scumteam.

Very unlikely a scum food would call out a scum Bunny when he wasn't getting heat.

Then is Vapor still our best lynch?

I really don’t read him as scum.

I think that Vapor is a good lynch for now but expect to change once vision scans maniac

[Kitsune]

So yea pretty good chance Bunny is scum

Replace food with Bunny in my scumteam.

Very unlikely a scum food would call out a scum Bunny when he wasn't getting heat.

When did food call Bunny out?

I thought he was throwing shade my way, or was that just Fox’s weird dominance ritual?

[BunnyGo]

Bunny did you do anything to prepare for this game? Read any articles on mafiascum or anything? Would highly recommend

Nope, just played literally every weekend for years as a teenager f2f

[Nephthys]

Bunny did you do anything to prepare for this game? Read any articles on mafiascum or anything? Would highly recommend

Nope, just played literally every weekend for years as a teenager f2f

Nothing else to say about my case?

[BunnyGo]

Bunny did you do anything to prepare for this game? Read any articles on mafiascum or anything? Would highly recommend

Nope, just played literally every weekend for years as a teenager f2f

Nothing else to say about my case?

I think it's understandably myopic. you don't focus on the main theme of puzzle solving and drawing people out.

I've been reticent to vote on someone I didn't believe in, this has been seen several times, so with Maniac (as you focused on) I really wanted to understand.

Anyways, with as many posts as I've made, you'll be able to focus in on what you want. But I think if you look again, you'll see a strong theme of confused curiosity show up.

[BunnyGo]

Nope, just played literally every weekend for years as a teenager f2f

Nothing else to say about my case?

I think it's understandably myopic. you don't focus on the main theme of puzzle solving and drawing people out.

I've been reticent to vote on someone I didn't believe in, this has been seen several times, so with Maniac (as you focused on) I really wanted to understand.

Anyways, with as many posts as I've made, you'll be able to focus in on what you want. But I think if you look again, you'll see a strong theme of confused curiosity show up.

I still have no idea what maniac will flip (either with lynch or vision). I think he's either a very ballsy scum or a town.

[Nephthys]

Nope, just played literally every weekend for years as a teenager f2f

Nothing else to say about my case?

I think it's understandably myopic. you don't focus on the main theme of puzzle solving and drawing people out.

I've been reticent to vote on someone I didn't believe in, this has been seen several times, so with Maniac (as you focused on) I really wanted to understand.

Anyways, with as many posts as I've made, you'll be able to focus in on what you want. But I think if you look again, you'll see a strong theme of confused curiosity show up.

Science words!

Yes, I agree completely though, me ISOing someone in my towncore is shortsighted when I conclude they're scum.

Do you have anything to say about the ND wagon?

[BunnyGo]

IIRC it started as a response to his opening posts and then disappearing. The final shift was when I wasn’t here at EOD with the move off bozo to ND. So, what was the D wagon about? I don’t know.

Sulit car in with lots of aggression and promises to investigate , but has continued to be a no show. No real opinions. No explanations. Said they are busy, ok...

[BunnyGo]

Still waiting for them to contribute. See my recent posts trying to call them out.

[BunnyGo]

What about Temosek/Vaporwave pair. They never vote together and are the first on each of their wagons. It's like they vote to see who can draw a crowd.

[BunnyGo]

In addition the two combined have voted basically only on people who flipped town or are my town leans. So what are they doing?

[BunnyGo]

I'm working through it now, but so far they are the only surviving pair I've found who both:

1) Never voted on each other
2) Never were on the same wagon

[BunnyGo]

I'm working through it now, but so far they are the only surviving pair I've found who both:

1) Never voted on each other
2) Never were on the same wagon

Vaporwave did vote on Tem at start of game. But they have never been on same wagon at same time.