MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3481 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:25 am

Nephthys wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:19 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:16 am
Nephthys wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:13 am


Dont answer this until after Kit posts if he does. Otherwise its exactly coaching
No. It's not coaching. Please, you know that's not what that term means.

It certainly would be influence, though. But that's the point. I want to see Kitsune's deepdive of Neph after BunnyGo predicts what it looks like. I think the glimpses provided by that kind of setup could be telling.
1. This post is written from the perspective that Kit is scum.
2. If I tell you what not to do (to look like scum) then I'm indirectly telling you what to do i.e. coaching.
3. Either way has its benefits, on consideration I will actually side with your opinion that Bunny should go first.
1. Maybe! I've certainly put that idea out there!

2. That's not the point of the exercise and you know it; neither is that generally what the term means, as it encompasses "coaching" to mean town-to-scum and town-to-town. It is prediction by BunnyGo, not direction. Kitsune must process that information and react to it. Reactions are interesting data. (Generic deepdives go unread and are boring, unhelpful data.)

3. Yay having it both ways and de-escalating the confrontation before other people notice and start to examine your motives!

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3482 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:26 am

Yeah, we're crossposting a bit here on questions, Neph. And I'm about to log off for the night, so... you might have to live with some disappointment. (Including the disappointment of being caught?)

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3483 Post by Nephthys » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:27 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:25 am
Nephthys wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:19 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:16 am


No. It's not coaching. Please, you know that's not what that term means.

It certainly would be influence, though. But that's the point. I want to see Kitsune's deepdive of Neph after BunnyGo predicts what it looks like. I think the glimpses provided by that kind of setup could be telling.
1. This post is written from the perspective that Kit is scum.
2. If I tell you what not to do (to look like scum) then I'm indirectly telling you what to do i.e. coaching.
3. Either way has its benefits, on consideration I will actually side with your opinion that Bunny should go first.
1. Maybe! I've certainly put that idea out there!

2. That's not the point of the exercise and you know it; neither is that generally what the term means, as it encompasses "coaching" to mean town-to-scum and town-to-town. It is prediction by BunnyGo, not direction. Kitsune must process that information and react to it. Reactions are interesting data. (Generic deepdives go unread and are boring, unhelpful data.)

3. Yay having it both ways and de-escalating the confrontation before other people notice and start to examine your motives!
How antagonistic of you.

Coaching has been used all game to refer to people explaining aspects of the game by numerous players.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3484 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:28 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:12 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:09 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:06 am


Do you think Neph is scum or town, BunnyGo?
Did I stutter?

Town.
Yikes, sorry I missed it. Hiss hiss...

If Kitsune is scum, what do you think his dive on town-Neph would look like?
I'd expect it to just not be done...

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3485 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:30 am

Nephthys wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:24 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:20 am
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:15 am
@fox, thoughts on Vapor and his wagon?

I note that you have avoided mentioning him AT ALL this entire game so far.
This is patently false. I have typed his name twice, and quoted other people mentioning him twice. You and your vicious lies, Neph! :o

He came in looking like he was doing scumbo hokey-pokey. I mostly decided that no actual scum would do that and have written him off. Not shocking that some of my top suspects (you, Maniac, Dargo) are on him.
You have typed his name twice. One was an example that had nothing to do with him and the other was you targeting Chaqa for not having a good reason to vote him.

You have quoted other people mentioning him exactly 4 times.
1. You discuss whether scum would give themselves away by piling onto the Vapor wagon (Not engaging with Vapor)
2. I mention him asking EP to analyse his wagon (Not engaging with Vapor)
3. You quote the bozo survey and claim Jamie isn't voting you cause you're a scumread, this has objectively nothing to do with Vapor
4.You just quoted me, and dodged the question I might add
What are we doing here? Is this some mid-century Beckett nonsense?

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#3486 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:31 am

To Neph's point 4 specifically: I answered the question, and by trying to insinuate I didn't and shade me, he just looks worse.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3487 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:32 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:16 am
Nephthys wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:13 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:12 am


Yikes, sorry I missed it. Hiss hiss...

If Kitsune is scum, what do you think his dive on town-Neph would look like?
Dont answer this until after Kit posts if he does. Otherwise its exactly coaching
No. It's not coaching. Please, you know that's not what that term means.

It certainly would be influence, though. But that's the point. I want to see Kitsune's deepdive of Neph after BunnyGo predicts what it looks like. I think the glimpses provided by that kind of setup could be telling.
This is becoming overly complex to me, I just can't follow.

I tried to do an ISO on Nepthys but it's giving me a headache. He have been pretty towny with exception of the reaction to Brain's claim and this could mean I was overreacting. I just don't know anymore.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3488 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:32 am

Oh, Kitsune means "fox"! Neat.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3489 Post by Nephthys » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:36 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:31 am
To Neph's point 4 specifically: I answered the question, and by trying to insinuate I didn't and shade me, he just looks worse.
Indeed you did, I apologise. What makes you say no scum would do "that"? If I recall correctly Flav recently won a game doing something similar.

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#3490 Post by Nephthys » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:40 am

Remind me at night to mention something I've noticed about Fox. There's no point bringing it up now.

If I forget what I was gonna say, Chinese Navy will remind me.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3491 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:41 am

Nephthys wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:36 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:31 am
To Neph's point 4 specifically: I answered the question, and by trying to insinuate I didn't and shade me, he just looks worse.
Indeed you did, I apologise. What makes you say no scum would do "that"? If I recall correctly Flav recently won a game doing something similar.
A fine point to clarify: I do not see Vapor doing that. I do not think it’s something most players would do. Flav is a great counterexample.

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#3492 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:42 am

##VOTE KITSUNE

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#3493 Post by Nephthys » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:43 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:41 am
Nephthys wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:36 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:31 am
To Neph's point 4 specifically: I answered the question, and by trying to insinuate I didn't and shade me, he just looks worse.
Indeed you did, I apologise. What makes you say no scum would do "that"? If I recall correctly Flav recently won a game doing something similar.
A fine point to clarify: I do not see Vapor doing that. I do not think it’s something most players would do. Flav is a great counterexample.
Also those of us with a mild intellectual disability, can you clarify? I'm assuming you mean acting overly scummy from the start of D1

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3494 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:47 am

Nephthys wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:43 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:41 am
Nephthys wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:36 am


Indeed you did, I apologise. What makes you say no scum would do "that"? If I recall correctly Flav recently won a game doing something similar.
A fine point to clarify: I do not see Vapor doing that. I do not think it’s something most players would do. Flav is a great counterexample.
Also those of us with a mild intellectual disability, can you clarify? I'm assuming you mean acting overly scummy from the start of D1
Behaving in a way that seems off and draws attention and is thereby read as scummy, yes. Not necessarily “acting scummy” but being seen that way for play style that draws attention.

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#3495 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:47 am

I’m curious if I’m going to get dinged for hypocrisy here...

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3496 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:48 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:47 am
I’m curious if I’m going to get dinged for hypocrisy here...
(Again.)

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3497 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:49 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:42 am
##VOTE KITSUNE
Are you just all over the place?

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3498 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:51 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:49 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:42 am
##VOTE KITSUNE
Are you just all over the place?
Did you prefer my prior vote?

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3499 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:54 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:51 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:49 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:42 am
##VOTE KITSUNE
Are you just all over the place?
Did you prefer my prior vote?
Don’t care. Just want you to make sense. Right now you seem crazier than I am, and that’s not good

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#3500 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:57 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:54 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:51 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:49 am


Are you just all over the place?
Did you prefer my prior vote?
Don’t care. Just want you to make sense. Right now you seem crazier than I am, and that’s not good
Nice. Too cool to care. :smirk:

Wait, why would any townie be too cool to care about a vote on them? :o :?

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