MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[Vaporwave]

Espresso

[BunnyGo]

Why won't you actually discuss EP's staying on bozo in the last 3 minutes of D1?

He dodges the question every chance he can, now you keep deflecting too.

Why did you stay on Bozo for that matter? @Brain

[Jamiet99uk]

I see that Damo did give an answer. A shit answer, but an answer.

[damo666]

@Xorxes who else did I say was vig? I don't remember doing so. I'm not accusing you of lying please note, I simply can't recall.

[BunnyGo]

My only concern shooting EP is if he is Thanos:

1) Then Jamie gets the power stone
2) Then Scum either kill or steal stone from Jamie
3) Scum get an extra 2-3 votes (depending on how they consolidate stones)

[RagingIke297]

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##CALL GM: when does the space stone action take effect? Kitsune did post during D2. Was that a mistake, or can teleportation take effect midphase?

Both the space stone and the Aero-Rig work the same way, they can be used at any point in a phase and have immediate effect, lasting until the end of the phase.

##CALL GM

Is the Ninja the only scum who can perform the night kill?

No, other members of the mafia can preform night kills, but can be tracked while doing so.

##CALL GM

What happens if someone besides Thanos gets the soul stone? Suppose Tony Stark kills Gamora. Does it stay inactive?

What happens if Thanos gets it, but then gets lynched? Does it stay active?

The soul stone does not activate until it is in the serial killers possession, once activated, it stays activated the rest of the game.

##CALL GM

If EMC was VT, did you at least tell him his character name? Or did only the janitor get to hear it?

EMC has the God thread, he can see his role and name, your role and name, and everyone else's roles and names as well

##CALL GM

Just want to make sure it isn't missed, my question about the Ninja still stands... I'd like to get clarification, I'm not totally clear on if it is a "killer" role or if it's just an "untrackable."

Just untrackable

##CALL GM

Can you provide clarification on the item thief's powers regarding different items?

Not sure what you mean with this one, all items steal the same be it an item from the item smith or a stone

##CALL GM Are Tony's shots transferable?

Non-transferable, non-stealable

##CALL GM

Does Ultron learn a) they successfully blocked a role, & 2) what the role is?

Follow-up posing a question to all, but Fox is welcome to respond.

What information or advantage would there be to publicly stating you were role-blocked?

Ultron does not know if they blocked anything from happening. As for advantage to be gained, it's typically regarded as a very soft clear, and for looking back later. Its a very soft clear because mafia could have used it on town, or they can hold the roleblock or block the person they kill and then claim it for said soft clear

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[xorxes]

My suggestions for the kill are still: Espresso-yuuki-Maniac.

I'm dropping Temasek only because he made an effort to at least post something, even though I still have him as a strong suspect.

No idea about sulit.

Some weird stuff from Neph that I still can't fully process.

[brainbomb]

I thought we outlawed tedious gm calls

[Chaqa]

My only concern shooting EP is if he is Thanos:

1) Then Jamie gets the power stone
2) Then Scum either kill or steal stone from Jamie
3) Scum get an extra 2-3 votes (depending on how they consolidate stones)

Jamie can give the stones away if needed if he thinks he will be targeted.

[foodcoats]

theres also the fact jamie didnt shoot and vanished. and maybe was trying to help save scumbro maniac.

Jamie does fuck things up as scum. its certainly in his wheelhouse.

if hes not vig its gonna be obvious.

if hes vig he can verify himself

Correct. Now talk about a real theory. WHAT IS UP WITH EP IN LAST 5 PAGES OF D1?

One thing I'll add to what I've already said, is I noticed further back that EP said this:

Btw, I'm online for the next hour or so. I'll be catching up but can engage realtime in between catchup posts.

Ok then, how bout we start with analysing your wagon at its peak

EspressoPatronum (5) Foxcastle Vaporwave KalelChase xorxes brainbomb Nephthys

How many scum do you think were on you and who do you suspect?

Apologies on missing this. Are you still online?

I'd imagine no more than half of the scum team would be on me so early, as grouping up more than that would be pretty terrible. If I'm correct and either 1 or 2 is on me, then the other two are probably on small/meaningless wagons.

That being said, I'm currently either scumleaning or scumreading 4 of the people in the wagon (Fox, Vapor, Kalel, xorxes*), which is definitely a problem.

I doubt Fox and Vapor would work together so openly, but there's a high chance in scum being between them. My money is on Fox because of his lurker positioning post.

That leaves xorxes and Kalel. Kalel left a bad first impression, but I haven't seen any troubling posts from him since. Xorxes, on the other hand, has a few concerning posts (highlighted in the posts above). He also softened his vote against my by citing our scumbuddy mini maf game, which doesn't sit well with me.

@Neph, what do you make of the wagon?

Meaning that at the time EP switched votes, there was one of their (explicitly stated) scumreads on each wagon (Fox on ND and Kalel on bozo). So their rationale about disliking the ND wagon was not fully articulated.

That in and of itself I don't think is scummy, because sometimes you do have to use your gut. But I'm more and more coming around to scum!EP... EP's iso is full defense mode.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie, don't you think that damo's prodding of people was too much in the open? it was a blatant desire to expose the vig, would scam dambo be so careless?

I just thought worcej a poor choice and jumped to the conclusion it was Jamie. I prob shouldn't have done it but was frustrated.

You were accusing people of being the Vig left, right and center, not just Jamiet. What was the purpose of that?

Damo will you answer this question please?

[BunnyGo]

OK brain...vig's shots can't be stolen by scum. Can we drop your inane theory now and talk about a good one?

[brainbomb]

damo isnt here but why is he scum?

[BunnyGo]

I thought we outlawed tedious gm calls

Tedious implies that the answers were obvious. I just want everyone on the same page.

[brainbomb]

OK brain...vig's shots can't be stolen by scum. Can we drop your inane theory now and talk about a good one?

I was not arguing jamoe stole vig shots.

i was arguing that he knows real janitor is dead so hes using that as cover to point a gun around and get free claims out of people. or to save scumbuddies

[brainbomb]

OK brain...vig's shots can't be stolen by scum. Can we drop your inane theory now and talk about a good one?

I was not arguing jamoe stole vig shots.

i was arguing that he knows real janitor is dead so hes using that as cover to point a gun around and get free claims out of people. or to save scumbuddies

sorry real *vig*

[damo666]

I just thought worcej a poor choice and jumped to the conclusion it was Jamie. I prob shouldn't have done it but was frustrated.

You were accusing people of being the Vig left, right and center, not just Jamiet. What was the purpose of that?

Damo will you answer this question please?

I have

[BunnyGo]

My only concern shooting EP is if he is Thanos:

1) Then Jamie gets the power stone
2) Then Scum either kill or steal stone from Jamie
3) Scum get an extra 2-3 votes (depending on how they consolidate stones)

Jamie can give the stones away if needed if he thinks he will be targeted.

Ahh! Very good point.

SHOOT EP! SHOOT SOON!

It doesn't need to be now, think for a bit. But do it before day end.

[xorxes]

@Xorxes who else did I say was vig? I don't remember doing so. I'm not accusing you of lying please note, I simply can't recall.

emc, newbies in general, I don't recall exactly either, I would have to read again.

[brainbomb]

if im wrong oh well. he shoots and no big deal