MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[xorxes]

jamie why are you outing as vig

Several people had worked it out.

I need to fire my second shot today as I'm a prime NK target.

Damo tried to get me to reveal LAST NIGHT and should be lynched for it.

Xorxes outright called on me to claim after being confirmed as VT.

##Vote Damo btw.

Mafia seem not to have had worked it out, or maybe they weren't too concerned with your aim.

I don't think you were anywhere close to a prime NK target, but I can understand that you felt that you were.

I am very curious to hear what damo has to say about what he was doing, because it obviously wasn't what I thought it was.

I only asked you to confirm because you had already claimed you had a gun, I would not have asked you anything if you had not claimed your gun. People with powers are often too eager to show they have powers, it's hard to stay quiet.

[foodcoats]

foodcoats, I take things at face value, but thanks for showing a different perspective. There could be a possibility for Fox to have claimed a hooker visitation, but no such thing to have happened.

There's also a chance for it to be real and I won't be on Foxy's back for that reason, I would not want him to have a similar experience to mine when nobody trusted a mafia action performed on me.

Fair enough. I will say I just re-read Fox (again, to look for crumbs) and I am slowly losing the passionate fire of scumread I had on them. Perhaps the reason that Fox didn't crumb anything is a reason to believe the RB claim. I guess I'm going to put it as NAI for now. I also feel like I should move Fox to null as their spot can be filled by much scummier folk.

[Vaporwave]

Kit was removed, no reason for town to remove Kit so that points to moofia taking him away

Jambo claimed vig and wasn't cc

What you're doing is nitpicking, same as Maniac did with 'only'

NOT ALL HOLY MEN from my list were HOLY

Of course, I won't find all townies, but those that I'm most certain of, were quite town

Have you skipped my tinfoil on Neph and rivera?

Anyway, receive my vote, feel it, smell, taste it, it's all over your body now

[foodcoats]

This is horrifying.

I don't see any scum motivation in faking being involved with the game and at the same time faking cluelessness about emc being dead and me being cleared, so the only reasonable conclusion is that the cluelessness is real. So why fake involvement if you are not actually involved? That only leaves Thanos.

@Neph, are you Thanos?

I am ashamed I didn't notice how nonsensical that was from Neph.

Did you guys not read the post immediately after?

Yes. You have a weird way of inserting inconsistency into the way you present things.

[foodcoats]

What you're doing is nitpicking, same as Maniac did with 'only'

NOT ALL HOLY MEN from my list were HOLY

Of course, I won't find all townies, but those that I'm most certain of, were quite town

Have you skipped my tinfoil on Neph and rivera?

My point is that you're inconsistently leveraging something you did earlier to shine up your belt buckle in the here and now.

[xorxes]

jamie why are you outing as vig

If I was scum with a gun I’d have shot you as soon as you claimed vig.

Just in case scum dies have a gun, you should shoot early. My Cc was obv a joke. Have you never seen life of Brian?

The cc was obviously a joke, but no need to shoot early. If a scum wants to out themselves by killing him, let them do it. The item smith knows who they gave their item to.

You obviously want to rush him into using his gun on someone before he uses it on you.

[Maniac]

Xorxes was a good person to clear in as far as it will make me reevaluate the game. It’s a guessing game so no shame in being wrong. I’ve been wrong before, can’t remember when, but sure it must’ve happened.

Brainbomb is funniest guy in here.

Paraphrasing—

Brainbomb ‘there’s not even a snowballs chance in hell maniac is scum’
Xorxes ‘join me on maniac’
Brainbomb ‘yeah sure’

Brainbomb doesn’t care who lives or dies. Makes him the perfect serial killer

Since your scumreads of EP and Kalel were in some inexplicable way contingent on me being scum, are you still scumreading them?

Do you have any other scumread besides brainbomb?

My world has kind of been turned upside down with your reveal and the little matter of dying and then coming back to life. Feel I should hide away in a cave for 3 days and then have you kneel before me.

[Vaporwave]

foodcoats, my point was that people shouldn't dismiss my STRONG towns

all I see you doing now is being scared that more town are finding each other, you don't want for fellow towns to trust me so you throw doubt

[Maniac]

jamie why are you outing as vig

If I was scum with a gun I’d have shot you as soon as you claimed vig.

Just in case scum dies have a gun, you should shoot early. My Cc was obv a joke. Have you never seen life of Brian?

The cc was obviously a joke, but no need to shoot early. If a scum wants to out themselves by killing him, let them do it. The item smith knows who they gave their item to.

You obviously want to rush him into using his gun on someone before he uses it on you.

I didn't consider any scum with a gun would be outing themselves. Good point.

[xorxes]

You are Rocket Raccoon aka “Rabbit”! You are the town item smith! Each night, until you run out of items, you may visit a player and that player will receive a random item from your item pool. Items in your item pool are immune to the item thief. You may target yourself, you may not give an item to the same person twice in a row. Your item pool at the beginning of the game is 1. Hadron Enforcer (one shot gun) 2. Cybernetic Eye (one shot cop scan) 3. Bottle of blue liquid (one shot role block) 4. Holographic Spacesuit (one shot armor, only good for shots not NK’s) 5. Aero-Rig (one shot “commute” (leave the game for a phase, see time stone for rules)) 6. Some guys prosthetic leg (has no use, but is still an item) Each day you may vote on who to lynch. You win when all foes opposing the town have been eliminated.


I thought id seen this somewhere.
is it possible kit wasnt sent away by mafia?

I thought the timing didn't allow for that. I thought if someone used the stone during D2, then the person would be teleported N2, not immediately. However, the message did not come immediately with the phase turn, so now I don't know.

##CALL GM: when does the space stone action take effect? Kitsune did post during D2. Was that a mistake, or can teleportation take effect midphase?

[BunnyGo]

Updating my listaments:

BG - I love BG, but why was he agitated when people wanted him lynched D1, I'm not saying anything more, grab BG by his ears and do with him what seems good to you, he's null

Was I agitated? I went back to read it to see, I didn't think I was more agitated than normal.

Anyways, I agree I shouldn't be in anyone's towncore. I'm fronting psycho.

And if you want to grab me by my ears and do what you want...I'm all game. Safeword is "Tuvalu".

[xorxes]

##vote yukki

Placeholder for now until this guy convinces me that he’s town

It would be nice if you explained where this came from.

[xorxes]

Looking back, I dislike Jamie's vote and voting logic.

He literally stated that ND was different. That's it. He specifically stated that ND was also NOT in his scum meta which should render the change NAI. Yet he starts a wagon on it.

If we look at his only reads post

Bozo is listed ABOVE ND yet he never changes his vote or really mentions bozo further.

Why was Jamie scumreading bozo you ask? Good idea, because I cant tell. The only time he MENTIONS bozo is to ask him to drop the survey. This is lhf to the max


Conclusion: Jamie's votes and scum reads do not add up. His reasoning to scumread ND was also deplorably weak.

##vote jamie

This is actually a really good point... Jamie pushed the ND wagon because of ND's lurking. town!Jamie would not have known ND was unavailable and therefore the play was NAI, but it could have have been scum!Jamie trying to get off the lead wagon.

Someone else not reading the thread...

[foodcoats]

@BunnyGo

Who are your top scumreads at the moment? I like your approach but it looks like your last two votes (Neph and EP) were kind of "screw you" votes. I'm curious who you think are the actual scumteam.

[xorxes]

Foxy - mafia used their hooker on him so to me that's almost a clear, no reason to fake that sh..

In the mass extinction game you were lynched for claiming to have been roleblocked. Do you think that was town being really dumb at the time? Do you think scum!Fox could be self-clearing by claiming RB?

Why do you think scum would RB Fox? I have reread Fox's iso and don't see anything that looks like a soft, whereas I think I have seen at least one other role crumb. I'm not a close/detailed reader so I could've missed Fox dropping a hint, but I tend to believe more simply that other people are more likely RB targets.

No discussion of living players' crumbs please. This looks like PR fishing.

[xorxes]

yeah, I might suck at finding scum, but my 'holy' men were right: worcej, bozo, xorxes, Jamie, Kit

Neither Jamie nor Kit are confirmed town.

You also called damo your towncore (p23) and Nephthys one of your holy men (p30).

Now I wonder if you're scum trying to score points by making a lot of townreads.

Nah, Vapor's towncores are always fluid. I'm pretty sure he's town.

[BunnyGo]

@BunnyGo

Who are your top scumreads at the moment? I like your approach but it looks like your last two votes (Neph and EP) were kind of "screw you" votes. I'm curious who you think are the actual scumteam.

Neph was just fucking around. So was Xorxes (obviously)

EP is actually a scum read. I hated what he did in the last 5 pages of D1. Then he pops in, says something, and disappears as soon as someone questions him? WHERE ARE YOU MAGICTEENACNE?!

Yuuki is weird. It's hard to have any read on him. Were I vision I'd have targeted him.

I've wondered about Brain from the beginning (see my earlier list). He's either town, or railroading everyone. Not sure.

Damo is scumlean. It's hard to make a solid case, but that's part of the problem.

Kit is just stupid. My case I tried to put together as to why the scum transported him away mostly fizzled. I'm left with: They think he's too useful as an idiot and don't want us accidentally lynching or teaching him.

Kalel is also scumlean. He's been weird from the start and now he's disappeared since he got coached at night?

Everyone else mostly I drift back and forth on. I don't really like any of you. I'm still not quite convinced about Xorxes...

[foodcoats]

@BunnyGo

Who are your top scumreads at the moment? I like your approach but it looks like your last two votes (Neph and EP) were kind of "screw you" votes. I'm curious who you think are the actual scumteam.

Neph was just fucking around. So was Xorxes (obviously)

EP is actually a scum read. I hated what he did in the last 5 pages of D1. Then he pops in, says something, and disappears as soon as someone questions him? WHERE ARE YOU MAGICTEENACNE?!

Yuuki is weird. It's hard to have any read on him. Were I vision I'd have targeted him.

I've wondered about Brain from the beginning (see my earlier list). He's either town, or railroading everyone. Not sure.

Damo is scumlean. It's hard to make a solid case, but that's part of the problem.

Kit is just stupid. My case I tried to put together as to why the scum transported him away mostly fizzled. I'm left with: They think he's too useful as an idiot and don't want us accidentally lynching or teaching him.

Kalel is also scumlean. He's been weird from the start and now he's disappeared since he got coached at night?

Everyone else mostly I drift back and forth on. I don't really like any of you. I'm still not quite convinced about Xorxes...

Cool, thank you.

There are some people on your list I'd like to pressure but I'm interested to see what happens when Ike wakes up (I'm assuming he's central time) and if Jamie's supposed shot is processed.

[xorxes]

Cool, thank you.

There are some people on your list I'd like to pressure but I'm interested to see what happens when Ike wakes up (I'm assuming he's central time) and if Jamie's supposed shot is processed.

Is there any doubt in your mind that Jamie is the Vig? If yes, please explain.

[BunnyGo]

@damo

Are you ready to disclose your misread from page 50?