Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

[xorxes]

just read p24
bozo still scum there
therefore
##vote bozo

thats all

bozo is probably scum, but we should vote for yuuki. Your mafia team choices after all the operations have completed are damo-yuuki-bozo, Espresso-yuuki-bozo, or (unlikely) damo-Espresso-yuuki, so the only mechanically confirmed scum for you is yuuki.If you are town you should have no objection to voting for yuuki, whereas for bozo there is still a small chance that he might be town.

There is no realistic chance brainbomb and I are both town. brainbomb is voting for me instead of yuuki, why do you not suspect he is mafia?

Because I suspect you more. It is possible that he is mafia, but it is more likely than you are.

[xorxes]

Again, I don't like the 50/50 option fmpv.

I understand that it's perhaps a greater than 50% (or even confirmed?) option for both you and brain to vote each other, but I'd rather go with the option guaranteed +/ more likely to more people.

@xorxes, @Ike, @rdr where do you guys stand on B v Z? As stated earlier, my vote is best on yuuki or damo, but I'm open to talking it through.

As I said before, I don't see how you would get five votes for damo, so you should ##VOTE yuuki.

I don't see how you would get five votes for yuuki, so you should vote brainbomb.

xorxes, rivera, Espresso and brainbomb all know yuuki is scum, so there should not be any objection from any of them, and hopefully one of Ike, damo or bozo will join us. If Espresso or brain refuse to vote for yuuki, then we will know they are also scum.

[yuuki]

They may not matter to you, but they do matter to those who have to decide.

xorxes point of view:

BDY, DYZ, EYZ (outside chance DEY, which you missed for bozo)

Espresso point of view:

BDY, DYZ

Brain point of view:

DYZ, EYZ (unlikley but possible DEY)

rivera point of view:

BDY, DYZ, EYZ, (DEY).

re: my above post. Bozo is right - it's confirmed to everyone that one of bozo or brain is maf.

I would again like to highlight that yuuki is a possibile scum member for everyone except himself.

It is not confirmed to everyone that one of bozo or brain is mafia: DEY is not inconsistent with all the evidence that we have. DEY is the most unlikley of the remaining possibilities, because it would entail that damo was bussing Espresso, which would be a risky move for scum to make. If D, E and Y all want to lynch brainbomb however, then that possibility becomes more real.

If you think it's DEY vote Espresso. I'm sure Damo and me will join you.

[bozotheclown]

It is not confirmed to everyone that one of bozo or brain is mafia: DEY is not inconsistent with all the evidence that we have. DEY is the most unlikley of the remaining possibilities, because it would entail that damo was bussing Espresso, which would be a risky move for scum to make. If D, E and Y all want to lynch brainbomb however, then that possibility becomes more real.

Is that your best argument, that brainbomb and I are both town voting for each other because damo reported his mafia teammate as mafia?

No, I think it's more likely that you are scum. Again you are putting words in my mouth.

Then why do you keep bringing up DEY as a possibility and a reason for voting outside of me and brainbomb? If you think I am scum, vote for me.

[xorxes]

re: my above post. Bozo is right - it's confirmed to everyone that one of bozo or brain is maf.

I would again like to highlight that yuuki is a possibile scum member for everyone except himself.

It is not confirmed to everyone that one of bozo or brain is mafia: DEY is not inconsistent with all the evidence that we have. DEY is the most unlikley of the remaining possibilities, because it would entail that damo was bussing Espresso, which would be a risky move for scum to make. If D, E and Y all want to lynch brainbomb however, then that possibility becomes more real.

If you think it's DEY vote Espresso. I'm sure Damo and me will join you.

That would prove it's not DEY then.

[xorxes]

Is that your best argument, that brainbomb and I are both town voting for each other because damo reported his mafia teammate as mafia?

No, I think it's more likely that you are scum. Again you are putting words in my mouth.

Then why do you keep bringing up DEY as a possibility and a reason for voting outside of me and brainbomb? If you think I am scum, vote for me.

I only bring it up when people dismiss it as a posibility. I think DEY is extremely unlikely, as I said repeatedly.

If you and brainbomb were the only choices, I would vote for whoever of you two yuuki doesn't vote (that should be you at the moment). Fortunately, you two are not the only choices, and yuuki is a better choice since I'm 100% sure he is scum, and I can't say the same for you.

[yuuki]

It is not confirmed to everyone that one of bozo or brain is mafia: DEY is not inconsistent with all the evidence that we have. DEY is the most unlikley of the remaining possibilities, because it would entail that damo was bussing Espresso, which would be a risky move for scum to make. If D, E and Y all want to lynch brainbomb however, then that possibility becomes more real.

If you think it's DEY vote Espresso. I'm sure Damo and me will join you.

That would prove it's not DEY then.

Then maybe you can stop bringing up that ridiculous nonsense

[yuuki]

No, I think it's more likely that you are scum. Again you are putting words in my mouth.

Then why do you keep bringing up DEY as a possibility and a reason for voting outside of me and brainbomb? If you think I am scum, vote for me.

I only bring it up when people dismiss it as a posibility. I think DEY is extremely unlikely, as I said repeatedly.

If you and brainbomb were the only choices, I would vote for whoever of you two yuuki doesn't vote (that should be you at the moment). Fortunately, you two are not the only choices, and yuuki is a better choice since I'm 100% sure he is scum, and I can't say the same for you.

The only people you are 100% sure are scum are brainbomb EP and yourself

[damo666]

Then why do you keep bringing up DEY as a possibility and a reason for voting outside of me and brainbomb? If you think I am scum, vote for me.

I only bring it up when people dismiss it as a posibility. I think DEY is extremely unlikely, as I said repeatedly.

If you and brainbomb were the only choices, I would vote for whoever of you two yuuki doesn't vote (that should be you at the moment). Fortunately, you two are not the only choices, and yuuki is a better choice since I'm 100% sure he is scum, and I can't say the same for you.

The only people you are 100% sure are scum are brainbomb EP and yourself

Chuckle

[damo666]

##VOTE brainbomb

I wish you had waited for Ike.

From my pov with BEX v EYZ I prefer E as target

[yuuki]

Whoever Ike prefers is the ideal target anyway so we can all just move to where he wants.

[damo666]

Whoever Ike prefers is the ideal target anyway so we can all just move to where he wants.

Suppose he chooses you lol?

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE brainbomb

I wish you had waited for Ike.

From my pov with BEX v EYZ I prefer E as target

Making the lynch me vs. brainbomb forces the mafia to confirm themselves by insisting on voting yuuki instead of me or brainbomb.

[EspressoPatronum]

##VOTE brainbomb

I wish you had waited for Ike.

From my pov with BEX v EYZ I prefer E as target

Making the lynch me vs. brainbomb forces the mafia to confirm themselves by insisting on voting yuuki instead of me or brainbomb.

Pushing B v Z is really just asking people to make their vote with less certainty.

But you already know that.

[EspressoPatronum]

Whoever Ike prefers is the ideal target anyway so we can all just move to where he wants.

If Ike chooses to vote for bozo or brain, will you follow Ike's vote?

[yuuki]

Whoever Ike prefers is the ideal target anyway so we can all just move to where he wants.

If Ike chooses to vote for bozo or brain, will you follow Ike's vote?

I already committed to vote with Ike. You should do the same.

[EspressoPatronum]

##vote yuuki.

damo is my second pick
I would rather not vote within B v Z but I will if Ike and xorxes want to

[EspressoPatronum]

Whoever Ike prefers is the ideal target anyway so we can all just move to where he wants.

If Ike chooses to vote for bozo or brain, will you follow Ike's vote?

I already committed to vote with Ike. You should do the same.

I'll hold you to this.

[yuuki]

If Ike chooses to vote for bozo or brain, will you follow Ike's vote?

I already committed to vote with Ike. You should do the same.

I'll hold you to this.

You should do the same

[yuuki]

I wish you had waited for Ike.

From my pov with BEX v EYZ I prefer E as target

Making the lynch me vs. brainbomb forces the mafia to confirm themselves by insisting on voting yuuki instead of me or brainbomb.

Pushing B v Z is really just asking people to make their vote with less certainty.

But you already know that.

Actually it gives people more certainty. The only one with less certainty is damo. But for bozo and Ike there's more certainty.