Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#501 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:17 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:10 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:04 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:00 pm


Why do you keep twisting my words? Where am I conceding that I don't need five votes? I explicitly said the opposite. If I didn't need five votes, why would I bother? Brainbomb is not confirmed to me, yuuki is, and yuuki has a better chance of being lynched, so of course I want to lynch him.
I said you needed five votes, because obviously you are talking from the perspective that you are town, and your response was "Why would I need five votes if I was scum?" That was not the expected response from another town.
You have been talking to me from day 1 as if I was scum, not as if I was town or at least unknown. Sorry if I missed when you changed your perspective.
I have suspected you are mafia since phase 2 when you did not confess to damo. I have suspected Espresso is mafia since phase 2 when he reported you as town. I have suspected brainbomb since phase 1 when he acted like he did not even understand what game he was playing. As possible combinations were eliminated BEX would never go away. However, you can prove I am wrong by voting for brainbomb.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#502 Post by xorxes » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:19 pm

yuuki wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:08 pm
Yuuki point of view:

BEX scum team guaranteed. I will vote for any of these three that damo bozo and Ike agree to.

Bozo point of view:

BEX or BDY

Damo point of view:

BEX or EYZ

Ike point of view:

All options that the group as a whole has.

The rest don't matter as they are scum/aligned with scum
They may not matter to you, but they do matter to those who have to decide.

xorxes point of view:

BDY, DYZ, EYZ (outside chance DEY, which you missed for bozo)

Espresso point of view:

BDY, DYZ

Brain point of view:

DYZ, EYZ (unlikley but possible DEY)

rivera point of view:

BDY, DYZ, EYZ, (DEY).

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#503 Post by damo666 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:25 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:52 pm
damo666 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:49 pm
@IYZ if scumteam is BEX join me on E

@BIZ if scumteam is EXY join me on E
EXY is not a possible team.
Sorry I meant EYZ obviously

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#504 Post by EspressoPatronum » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:25 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:19 pm
yuuki wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:08 pm
Yuuki point of view:

BEX scum team guaranteed. I will vote for any of these three that damo bozo and Ike agree to.

Bozo point of view:

BEX or BDY

Damo point of view:

BEX or EYZ

Ike point of view:

All options that the group as a whole has.

The rest don't matter as they are scum/aligned with scum
They may not matter to you, but they do matter to those who have to decide.

xorxes point of view:

BDY, DYZ, EYZ (outside chance DEY, which you missed for bozo)

Espresso point of view:

BDY, DYZ

Brain point of view:

DYZ, EYZ (unlikley but possible DEY)

rivera point of view:

BDY, DYZ, EYZ, (DEY).
Yuuki probably didn't list the other half of the possibilities because he's in everyone single one of them except his own.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#505 Post by EspressoPatronum » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:26 pm

damo666 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:25 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:52 pm
damo666 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:49 pm
@IYZ if scumteam is BEX join me on E

@BIZ if scumteam is EXY join me on E
EXY is not a possible team.
Sorry I meant EYZ obviously
You said @BIZ so you obviously weren't saying the team was EYZ

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#506 Post by damo666 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:26 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:55 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:52 pm
damo666 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:49 pm
@IYZ if scumteam is BEX join me on E

@BIZ if scumteam is EXY join me on E
EXY is not a possible team.
And it's not possible because if you are town then yuuki and bozo are supposed to be in the same team. Have you forgotten about that?
No, it was a typo lol

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#507 Post by xorxes » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:27 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:17 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:10 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:04 pm


I said you needed five votes, because obviously you are talking from the perspective that you are town, and your response was "Why would I need five votes if I was scum?" That was not the expected response from another town.
You have been talking to me from day 1 as if I was scum, not as if I was town or at least unknown. Sorry if I missed when you changed your perspective.
I have suspected you are mafia since phase 2 when you did not confess to damo. I have suspected Espresso is mafia since phase 2 when he reported you as town. I have suspected brainbomb since phase 1 when he acted like he did not even understand what game he was playing. As possible combinations were eliminated BEX would never go away. However, you can prove I am wrong by voting for brainbomb.
If I had any confidence you were town, I would happily vote for brainbomb, who is a total null from reads point of view. But you have been siding with yuuki, a confirmed scum, from the beginning of the game, without ever showing any doubt. You put everything I say in the worst possible light, and you defend yuuki even when he lies. So no, I won't try to "prove you wrong" by siding with you and yuuki.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#508 Post by EspressoPatronum » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:28 pm

This just in: damo outs himself with a scumslip in the final round.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#509 Post by damo666 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:31 pm

EspressoPatronum wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:26 pm
damo666 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:25 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:52 pm


EXY is not a possible team.
Sorry I meant EYZ obviously
You said @BIZ so you obviously weren't saying the team was EYZ
obv @BIX got my X and Z swapped

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#510 Post by EspressoPatronum » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:32 pm

We need brain and Ike to weigh in here.

I can send them a msg on discord or something if everyone agrees on the wording.

Something like, "M1008 is in the final round. Please check in and cast your vote."

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#511 Post by EspressoPatronum » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:32 pm

damo666 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:31 pm
EspressoPatronum wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:26 pm
damo666 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:25 pm


Sorry I meant EYZ obviously
You said @BIZ so you obviously weren't saying the team was EYZ
obv @BIX got my X and Z swapped
You said it was a typo earlier. Are you saying you swapped them instead?

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#512 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:33 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:27 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:17 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:10 pm


You have been talking to me from day 1 as if I was scum, not as if I was town or at least unknown. Sorry if I missed when you changed your perspective.
I have suspected you are mafia since phase 2 when you did not confess to damo. I have suspected Espresso is mafia since phase 2 when he reported you as town. I have suspected brainbomb since phase 1 when he acted like he did not even understand what game he was playing. As possible combinations were eliminated BEX would never go away. However, you can prove I am wrong by voting for brainbomb.
If I had any confidence you were town, I would happily vote for brainbomb, who is a total null from reads point of view. But you have been siding with yuuki, a confirmed scum, from the beginning of the game, without ever showing any doubt. You put everything I say in the worst possible light, and you defend yuuki even when he lies. So no, I won't try to "prove you wrong" by siding with you and yuuki.
Exactly, as I said, in the end you will insist it is DYZ. Now you have to try to sell that to Ike.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#513 Post by EspressoPatronum » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:34 pm

damo666 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:31 pm
EspressoPatronum wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:26 pm
damo666 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:25 pm


Sorry I meant EYZ obviously
You said @BIZ so you obviously weren't saying the team was EYZ
obv @BIX got my X and Z swapped
Your use of the passive voice ("got swapped") is a classic technique to try divesting responsibility for an action.

Most people would write "I swapped ..." but someone avoiding blame might use the passive voice instead.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#514 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:35 pm

EspressoPatronum wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:32 pm
We need brain and Ike to weigh in here.

I can send them a msg on discord or something if everyone agrees on the wording.

Something like, "M1008 is in the final round. Please check in and cast your vote."
I suggest going through the GM. brainbomb should be replaced if anyone is willing to take over.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#515 Post by EspressoPatronum » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:36 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:35 pm
EspressoPatronum wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:32 pm
We need brain and Ike to weigh in here.

I can send them a msg on discord or something if everyone agrees on the wording.

Something like, "M1008 is in the final round. Please check in and cast your vote."
I suggest going through the GM. brainbomb should be replaced if anyone is willing to take over.
Good call.

@EMC @Yavu

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#516 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:37 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:33 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:27 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:17 pm


I have suspected you are mafia since phase 2 when you did not confess to damo. I have suspected Espresso is mafia since phase 2 when he reported you as town. I have suspected brainbomb since phase 1 when he acted like he did not even understand what game he was playing. As possible combinations were eliminated BEX would never go away. However, you can prove I am wrong by voting for brainbomb.
If I had any confidence you were town, I would happily vote for brainbomb, who is a total null from reads point of view. But you have been siding with yuuki, a confirmed scum, from the beginning of the game, without ever showing any doubt. You put everything I say in the worst possible light, and you defend yuuki even when he lies. So no, I won't try to "prove you wrong" by siding with you and yuuki.
Exactly, as I said, in the end you will insist it is DYZ. Now you have to try to sell that to Ike.
Also, it is misleading to imply yuuki has said anything that is untrue. You tried to pass off something he said that was an opinion as an unproven fact.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#517 Post by damo666 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:40 pm

yuuki wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:15 pm
Also, @Damo: the fact that I'm voting with you right now should make you at ease with the fact that it is BEX. So if Ike prefers Brainbomb or Xorxes for some reason you should be more than willing to change to either of those targets.
You me and Bozo know it's BEX. BEX obviously know it's BEX but will vote outside. Rdr doesn't know it's BEX but his vote for you probably means he has a grudge against you which is bad luck for us.

All the power lies with Ike. I would like him to vote E. If he votes B I will switch. If Ike draws the conclusion scum is DYZ we are doomed and scum (and rdr) win. It's all up to Ike. I think throughout we have been stronger than BEX and to an outsider BEX is far more likely scumteam than DYZ and I trust Ike has this interpretation.

Up to you Ike. Vote wisely.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#518 Post by damo666 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:42 pm

EspressoPatronum wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:34 pm
damo666 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:31 pm
EspressoPatronum wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:26 pm


You said @BIZ so you obviously weren't saying the team was EYZ
obv @BIX got my X and Z swapped
Your use of the passive voice ("got swapped") is a classic technique to try divesting responsibility for an action.

Most people would write "I swapped ..." but someone avoiding blame might use the passive voice instead.
Tosh.

obv(iously) @BIX [, I]

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#519 Post by e.m.c^42 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:52 pm

EspressoPatronum wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:36 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:35 pm
EspressoPatronum wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:32 pm
We need brain and Ike to weigh in here.

I can send them a msg on discord or something if everyone agrees on the wording.

Something like, "M1008 is in the final round. Please check in and cast your vote."
I suggest going through the GM. brainbomb should be replaced if anyone is willing to take over.
Good call.

@EMC @Yavu
##GM Note
The voting phase actually hasn't started yet - there is around 2 hours and 8 minutes until it officially starts, and another 48 hours after that until end of phase.

However, I will be contacting brain. Depending on availability, there may or may not be a sub.

Yavuz, I suspect, has not had technological access for the past day or so.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#520 Post by EspressoPatronum » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:30 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:52 pm
EspressoPatronum wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:36 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:35 pm


I suggest going through the GM. brainbomb should be replaced if anyone is willing to take over.
Good call.

@EMC @Yavu
##GM Note
The voting phase actually hasn't started yet - there is around 2 hours and 8 minutes until it officially starts, and another 48 hours after that until end of phase.

However, I will be contacting brain. Depending on availability, there may or may not be a sub.

Yavuz, I suspect, has not had technological access for the past day or so.
Thanks, EMC!

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