Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#481 Post by xorxes » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:38 pm

damo666 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:28 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:21 pm
xorxes, EspressoPatronum, and rdrivera all say they are not sure about brainbomb, but in the end they will all be sure it is DYZ in order to try to get Ike's vote.
So, it's up to Ike. He votes Y and scum and rdr win or he votes E and town and rdr win.
If what you're saying is true, the scumteam has to be DEY and rivera got a tip about Y. Was that a scumslip?

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#482 Post by damo666 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:41 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:36 pm
damo666 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:28 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:21 pm
xorxes, EspressoPatronum, and rdrivera all say they are not sure about brainbomb, but in the end they will all be sure it is DYZ in order to try to get Ike's vote.
So, it's up to Ike. He votes Y and scum and rdr win or he votes E and town and rdr win.
I was mistaken about the grudge win condition, rdrivera actually will be the only loser if his agenda is getting yuuki lynched and the vote ends in a tie. brainbomb will still come in and vote with the mafia, so it should end in a tie.
Ah! If it's grudge against Y and it's a tie then as Y not lynched he doesn't win. Is that a solo town win?

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#483 Post by damo666 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:42 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:33 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:21 pm
xorxes, EspressoPatronum, and rdrivera all say they are not sure about brainbomb, but in the end they will all be sure it is DYZ in order to try to get Ike's vote.
We don't need to know the entire team in order to win.
He's not saying that. He is saying that would be scum team BEX's strategy.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#484 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:43 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:33 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:21 pm
xorxes, EspressoPatronum, and rdrivera all say they are not sure about brainbomb, but in the end they will all be sure it is DYZ in order to try to get Ike's vote.
We don't need to know the entire team in order to win.
No, but you do need five votes, and the only way I am voting with you is if you vote for brainbomb. If you were town, I would expect BDY to be your conclusion, but I do not think you are town, thus my prediction you will end up insisting it is DYZ.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#485 Post by damo666 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:44 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:38 pm
damo666 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:28 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:21 pm
xorxes, EspressoPatronum, and rdrivera all say they are not sure about brainbomb, but in the end they will all be sure it is DYZ in order to try to get Ike's vote.
So, it's up to Ike. He votes Y and scum and rdr win or he votes E and town and rdr win.
If what you're saying is true, the scumteam has to be DEY and rivera got a tip about Y. Was that a scumslip?
No, I'm replying to Bozo following his assumption scumteam is BEX

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#486 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:44 pm

damo666 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:41 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:36 pm
damo666 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:28 pm


So, it's up to Ike. He votes Y and scum and rdr win or he votes E and town and rdr win.
I was mistaken about the grudge win condition, rdrivera actually will be the only loser if his agenda is getting yuuki lynched and the vote ends in a tie. brainbomb will still come in and vote with the mafia, so it should end in a tie.
Ah! If it's grudge against Y and it's a tie then as Y not lynched he doesn't win. Is that a solo town win?
I think it would be considered a tie for everyone except rdrivera, who would lose.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#487 Post by yuuki » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:47 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:38 pm
damo666 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:28 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:21 pm
xorxes, EspressoPatronum, and rdrivera all say they are not sure about brainbomb, but in the end they will all be sure it is DYZ in order to try to get Ike's vote.
So, it's up to Ike. He votes Y and scum and rdr win or he votes E and town and rdr win.
If what you're saying is true, the scumteam has to be DEY and rivera got a tip about Y. Was that a scumslip?
If your conclusion is DEY come join us voting for E

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#488 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:48 pm

By the way, brainbomb has been in violation of the rules for 2 consecutive phases by not posting in phase 5 or phase 6. I am sure xorxes and Espresso are not looking forward to having to insist brainbomb is town.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#489 Post by xorxes » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:48 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:43 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:33 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:21 pm
xorxes, EspressoPatronum, and rdrivera all say they are not sure about brainbomb, but in the end they will all be sure it is DYZ in order to try to get Ike's vote.
We don't need to know the entire team in order to win.
No, but you do need five votes, and the only way I am voting with you is if you vote for brainbomb. If you were town, I would expect BDY to be your conclusion, but I do not think you are town, thus my prediction you will end up insisting it is DYZ.
Why would I need five votes if I was scum? If I was scum I would only need four votes. If you were town, I would expect BDY to be your conclusion, but I do not think you are town, thus my prediction you will end up insisting it is BEX.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#490 Post by damo666 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:49 pm

@IYZ if scumteam is BEX join me on E

@BIZ if scumteam is EXY join me on E

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#491 Post by xorxes » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:52 pm

damo666 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:49 pm
@IYZ if scumteam is BEX join me on E

@BIZ if scumteam is EXY join me on E
EXY is not a possible team.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#492 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:54 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:48 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:43 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:33 pm


We don't need to know the entire team in order to win.
No, but you do need five votes, and the only way I am voting with you is if you vote for brainbomb. If you were town, I would expect BDY to be your conclusion, but I do not think you are town, thus my prediction you will end up insisting it is DYZ.
Why would I need five votes if I was scum? If I was scum I would only need four votes. If you were town, I would expect BDY to be your conclusion, but I do not think you are town, thus my prediction you will end up insisting it is BEX.
Are you conceding you do not need five votes? I thought we were still talking about the hypothetical situation where we are both town. I know it is BEX or BDY, but I have been clear that I think it is BEX. However, I would like to vote brainbomb, who is confirmed to me. If you think it is BDY, you should be willing to vote for brainbomb if that is what it takes to get 5 players to vote for mafia.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#493 Post by xorxes » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:55 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:52 pm
damo666 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:49 pm
@IYZ if scumteam is BEX join me on E

@BIZ if scumteam is EXY join me on E
EXY is not a possible team.
And it's not possible because if you are town then yuuki and bozo are supposed to be in the same team. Have you forgotten about that?

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#494 Post by xorxes » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:00 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:54 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:48 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:43 pm


No, but you do need five votes, and the only way I am voting with you is if you vote for brainbomb. If you were town, I would expect BDY to be your conclusion, but I do not think you are town, thus my prediction you will end up insisting it is DYZ.
Why would I need five votes if I was scum? If I was scum I would only need four votes. If you were town, I would expect BDY to be your conclusion, but I do not think you are town, thus my prediction you will end up insisting it is BEX.
Are you conceding you do not need five votes? I thought we were still talking about the hypothetical situation where we are both town. I know it is BEX or BDY, but I have been clear that I think it is BEX. However, I would like to vote brainbomb, who is confirmed to me. If you think it is BDY, you should be willing to vote for brainbomb if that is what it takes to get 5 players to vote for mafia.
Why do you keep twisting my words? Where am I conceding that I don't need five votes? I explicitly said the opposite. If I didn't need five votes, why would I bother? Brainbomb is not confirmed to me, yuuki is, and yuuki has a better chance of being lynched, so of course I want to lynch him.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#495 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:04 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:00 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:54 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:48 pm


Why would I need five votes if I was scum? If I was scum I would only need four votes. If you were town, I would expect BDY to be your conclusion, but I do not think you are town, thus my prediction you will end up insisting it is BEX.
Are you conceding you do not need five votes? I thought we were still talking about the hypothetical situation where we are both town. I know it is BEX or BDY, but I have been clear that I think it is BEX. However, I would like to vote brainbomb, who is confirmed to me. If you think it is BDY, you should be willing to vote for brainbomb if that is what it takes to get 5 players to vote for mafia.
Why do you keep twisting my words? Where am I conceding that I don't need five votes? I explicitly said the opposite. If I didn't need five votes, why would I bother? Brainbomb is not confirmed to me, yuuki is, and yuuki has a better chance of being lynched, so of course I want to lynch him.
I said you needed five votes, because obviously you are talking from the perspective that you are town, and your response was "Why would I need five votes if I was scum?" That was not the expected response from another town.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#496 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:06 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:04 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:00 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:54 pm


Are you conceding you do not need five votes? I thought we were still talking about the hypothetical situation where we are both town. I know it is BEX or BDY, but I have been clear that I think it is BEX. However, I would like to vote brainbomb, who is confirmed to me. If you think it is BDY, you should be willing to vote for brainbomb if that is what it takes to get 5 players to vote for mafia.
Why do you keep twisting my words? Where am I conceding that I don't need five votes? I explicitly said the opposite. If I didn't need five votes, why would I bother? Brainbomb is not confirmed to me, yuuki is, and yuuki has a better chance of being lynched, so of course I want to lynch him.
I said you needed five votes, because obviously you are talking from the perspective that you are town, and your response was "Why would I need five votes if I was scum?" That was not the expected response from another town.
Also, the part about conceding you are mafia was obviously not meant to be taken literally.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#497 Post by yuuki » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:08 pm

Yuuki point of view:

BEX scum team guaranteed. I will vote for any of these three that damo bozo and Ike agree to.

Bozo point of view:

BEX or BDY

Damo point of view:

BEX or EYZ

Ike point of view:

All options that the group as a whole has.

The rest don't matter as they are scum/aligned with scum

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#498 Post by xorxes » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:10 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:04 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:00 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:54 pm


Are you conceding you do not need five votes? I thought we were still talking about the hypothetical situation where we are both town. I know it is BEX or BDY, but I have been clear that I think it is BEX. However, I would like to vote brainbomb, who is confirmed to me. If you think it is BDY, you should be willing to vote for brainbomb if that is what it takes to get 5 players to vote for mafia.
Why do you keep twisting my words? Where am I conceding that I don't need five votes? I explicitly said the opposite. If I didn't need five votes, why would I bother? Brainbomb is not confirmed to me, yuuki is, and yuuki has a better chance of being lynched, so of course I want to lynch him.
I said you needed five votes, because obviously you are talking from the perspective that you are town, and your response was "Why would I need five votes if I was scum?" That was not the expected response from another town.
You have been talking to me from day 1 as if I was scum, not as if I was town or at least unknown. Sorry if I missed when you changed your perspective.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#499 Post by yuuki » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:15 pm

Also, @Damo: the fact that I'm voting with you right now should make you at ease with the fact that it is BEX. So if Ike prefers Brainbomb or Xorxes for some reason you should be more than willing to change to either of those targets.

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Re: Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

#500 Post by yuuki » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:16 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:10 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:04 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:00 pm


Why do you keep twisting my words? Where am I conceding that I don't need five votes? I explicitly said the opposite. If I didn't need five votes, why would I bother? Brainbomb is not confirmed to me, yuuki is, and yuuki has a better chance of being lynched, so of course I want to lynch him.
I said you needed five votes, because obviously you are talking from the perspective that you are town, and your response was "Why would I need five votes if I was scum?" That was not the expected response from another town.
You have been talking to me from day 1 as if I was scum, not as if I was town or at least unknown. Sorry if I missed when you changed your perspective.
Maybe it is because you confessed to your scumbuddy EP

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