Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

[EspressoPatronum]

It's looking like scum's last chance is to push the narrative of a tie. Behold, the propaganda machine at work.

[yuuki]

I thought yuuki and damo were town early, and nothing has happened to make me think any different. I think the mafia team is brainbomb, Espresso, and xorxes, and rdrivera has either switched to mafia or needs yuuki to be lynched. I think the only way I am wrong is if the mafia team is brainbomb, Espresso, and rdrivera, but I do not think I am wrong.

Yep, exactly what is happening

[yuuki]

It's looking like scum's last chance is to push the narrative of a tie. Behold, the propaganda machine at work.

Since you say you are town are you committed to give away your decision to vote and vote with Ike who is confirmed town?

[rdrivera2005]

It's looking like scum's last chance is to push the narrative of a tie. Behold, the propaganda machine at work.

If there is a tie scum wins, from the signup thread:

"As e.m.c said, the only lynch determines the winner. In the original game, mafia wins when its tied, but I'm planning to give an extra day if it is tied."

[RagingIke297]

It's looking like scum's last chance is to push the narrative of a tie. Behold, the propaganda machine at work.

If there is a tie scum wins, from the signup thread:

"As e.m.c said, the only lynch determines the winner. In the original game, mafia wins when its tied, but I'm planning to give an extra day if it is tied."

Why would there be a scenario literally built into the set up where one side can autowin?

[xorxes]

Xorxes you might as well tell us your alignment, if you're town we win 5-3 if you're scum it's a draw.

I'm town, but I don't know whether you are town or not. People are jumping to all sorts of unwarranted conclusions from the data we have.

[xorxes]

I think you're right, bozo. Looks like he mistook you for B.

So fmpv, I have DYZ and BDY left.

I agree with Ike's logic that scum!bozo likely would have lied, so I'm leaning on BDY as the solve.

Why would have scum!bozo lied? If bozo lied, Ike would have known bozo was scum and if he is scum he needs Ike's vote to win. His only option was to tell the truth.

If town!bozo and scum!Ike, bozo declares Ike is scum.

If scum!bozo and town!Ike, he can choose to do either. Since town!bozo would always call out scum!Ike, it makes sense for scum!bozo to mirror that play.

At the time, a team of DYZ needed two of xorxes, Ike, bb, or rdr to win 5-3. It may be true that DYZ needs Ike's vote now (I'm not actually sure), but I don't see how they could have known that at the time of the confession.

Ike is town, that can't be disputed whether bozo is town or scum. Him being scum is inconsistent with all the claims we have.

scum!bozo would have known Ike's alignment before the confession.

If bozo had claimed that Ike is scum, then he guarantees that Ike won't be voting with mafia. Why would he throw away a potential vote for no reason? There was very little chance Ike would be lynched, so claiming he was scum made no sense for scum!bozo, and obviously it wouldn't make sense for town!bozo either. So bozo acknowleding that Ike is town tells us nothing about bozo.

[xorxes]

Pretty sure rivera is not going to tell the truth regardless of what his new win con is.

If he is town and has a tip, why would he not tell the truth?

How do we know he really got a tip? No matter what he gets he will say he has a tip

You said you were sure he was not going to tell the truth regardless, you didn't say that we could not take whatever he said at face value.

There are some scenarios in which he would tell us the truth, and other scenarios in which he would lie. You were preemptively discrediting whatever he would say.

[xorxes]

It's looking like scum's last chance is to push the narrative of a tie. Behold, the propaganda machine at work.

We don't even have all the info there is to have yet.

[xorxes]

It's looking like scum's last chance is to push the narrative of a tie. Behold, the propaganda machine at work.

Since you say you are town are you committed to give away your decision to vote and vote with Ike who is confirmed town?

Ike is confirmed town, but he is also the one with the least amount of info out of everybody. Committing to vote whatever he votes is something only scum would do in order to pocket him.

[rdrivera2005]

It's looking like scum's last chance is to push the narrative of a tie. Behold, the propaganda machine at work.

We don't even have all the info there is to have yet.

But the only one with an action stil is Bozo and I don't see how Bozo is town considering I am 100% sure Yukki is scum. Am I missing a possibility?

[yuuki]

It's looking like scum's last chance is to push the narrative of a tie. Behold, the propaganda machine at work.

We don't even have all the info there is to have yet.

But the only one with an action stil is Bozo and I don't see how Bozo is town considering I am 100% sure Yukki is scum. Am I missing a possibility?

you are such a terrible liar

[yuuki]

It's looking like scum's last chance is to push the narrative of a tie. Behold, the propaganda machine at work.

If there is a tie scum wins, from the signup thread:

"As e.m.c said, the only lynch determines the winner. In the original game, mafia wins when its tied, but I'm planning to give an extra day if it is tied."

Pretty ridiculous given the huge likelihood that it's a 4 against 4 game.

[yuuki]

Xorxes you might as well tell us your alignment, if you're town we win 5-3 if you're scum it's a draw.

I'm town, but I don't know whether you are town or not. People are jumping to all sorts of unwarranted conclusions from the data we have.

If you are town are you committed to vote with Ike who is guaranteed town?

[yuuki]

It's looking like scum's last chance is to push the narrative of a tie. Behold, the propaganda machine at work.

If there is a tie scum wins, from the signup thread:

"As e.m.c said, the only lynch determines the winner. In the original game, mafia wins when its tied, but I'm planning to give an extra day if it is tied."

Why would there be a scenario literally built into the set up where one side can autowin?

This

[yuuki]

It's looking like scum's last chance is to push the narrative of a tie. Behold, the propaganda machine at work.

Since you say you are town are you committed to give away your decision to vote and vote with Ike who is confirmed town?

Ike is confirmed town, but he is also the one with the least amount of info out of everybody. Committing to vote whatever he votes is something only scum would do in order to pocket him.

lol at this you are so obviously scum. we are pretty much screwed then.

[yuuki]

@rd: are you in love, in revenge or just plain scum? Because if you are in love with someone there may be more targets for you out there than me.

[xorxes]

It's looking like scum's last chance is to push the narrative of a tie. Behold, the propaganda machine at work.

We don't even have all the info there is to have yet.

But the only one with an action stil is Bozo and I don't see how Bozo is town considering I am 100% sure Yukki is scum. Am I missing a possibility?

These are the remaining possibilities:

BDY
BER
BEX
(DEY)
DYZ
EYZ

yuuki could be scum with brain and damo if bozo is town (or damo and Espresso, although that's really unlikley unless damo decided to bus for some weird reason).

[xorxes]

Xorxes you might as well tell us your alignment, if you're town we win 5-3 if you're scum it's a draw.

I'm town, but I don't know whether you are town or not. People are jumping to all sorts of unwarranted conclusions from the data we have.

If you are town are you committed to vote with Ike who is guaranteed town?

Only if Ike votes for someone I consider scum, obviously. He is the one with the least amount of info, so just because he is clear it doesn't mean he has all the answers. You claiming that you would vote for yourself if Ike votes for you is just ridiculous.

[damo666]

This game is bloody stupid we have scum completely sussed and we're gonna lose? Absolutely ridiculous.

I am of course ignoring the negligible chance Xorxes is telling the truth in which case we've won.