Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

[xorxes]

So, rivera's interests are aligned with mafia if:

- He started as either alignment and has Grudge against town.
- He started as either alignment and has Infatuation with scum.
- He started as town and has Deep Cover.
- He started as town and has Sleeper Cell.
- He started as scum and has Secret Tip.

His interests are aligned with town if:

- He started as either alignment and has Grudge against scum.
- He started as either alignment and has Infatuation with town.
- He started as scum and has Deep Cover.
- He started as scum and has Sleeper Cell.
- He started as town and has Secret Tip.

So, rd, which one is it?

[xorxes]

Pretty sure rivera is not going to tell the truth regardless of what his new win con is.

If he is town and has a tip, why would he not tell the truth?

[damo666]

@town (DIYZ & R or X) scum is BER or BEX.

Whatever Bozo reveals we vote E OK? Can't lose. May draw.

[bozotheclown]

Ike is town, so we are down to these possibilities:

BDY
BER
BEX
(DEY)
DYZ
EYZ

I think DEY is very unlikely, since damo reported Espresso as mafia, setting up damo vs. Espresso as the likely vote options. So, from my point of view, brainbomb is almost certainly mafia.

[bozotheclown]

Perfect. As expected I would say based on behavior.

Worth noting EP had been pushing Ike to confess to brainbomb so I think it is EP brainbomb and xorxes.

Since BER and BEX are the only two options left for you, your second sentence is strange.

xorxes has a point, if you are town, brainbomb is now confirmed mafia to you as well.

[RagingIke297]

Ike is town, so we are down to these possibilities:

BDY
BER
BEX
(DEY)
DYZ
EYZ

I think DEY is very unlikely, since damo reported Espresso as mafia, setting up damo vs. Espresso as the likely vote options. So, from my point of view, brainbomb is almost certainly mafia.

If Bozo was scum, he wouldn't have reported me town unless i am also scum. So Bozo for me is a town read and we're left with
(DEY)
DYZ
EYZ
There's a Y in every one of those possibilities.....

[rdrivera2005]

Ike is town, so we are down to these possibilities:

BDY
BER
BEX
(DEY)
DYZ
EYZ

I think DEY is very unlikely, since damo reported Espresso as mafia, setting up damo vs. Espresso as the likely vote options. So, from my point of view, brainbomb is almost certainly mafia.

If Bozo was scum, he wouldn't have reported me town unless i am also scum. So Bozo for me is a town read and we're left with
(DEY)
DYZ
EYZ
There's a Y in every one of those possibilities.....

Yep, and guess what, I got a tip telling me Yukki isn't aligned with the Agency.
I think it's game over, will have to do the math to see if we can catch the whole team.

[bozotheclown]

If letting the choice go to a random selection was accidental, why are you suggesting that a random selection was better than following the vote since the mafia might have been controlling the vote?

I'm not suggesting that. I was in fact planning to follow the vote, but I didn't get to see what the vote was because I got caught up at work and did not have time to check before the deadline.

I disagree that the only reason not to let your choice be random was that it might have been rdrivera. The primary reason not to let it go to a random choice was to avoid the appearance that you were not willing to confess to the voted target.

There was no voted target at the time when I could have made a choice. The vote was 1-1-1. If you don't want to believe that I work and can't devote all my time to mafia, suit yourself. You should know me well enough by now to know what my mafia hours are.

If the vote was 1-1-1 the last time you checked, then you did not check for the last 4 hours of phase 1. I understand you are saying you were not able to check in during that time, and I except that as a possible explanation for not choosing damo. I also consider you being mafia using that as an excuse as a possible explanation. More suspicious to me, though, it that you are saying two different things. You say you were not able to check in to choose damo when he was the top vote choice, and that the random choice was an accident. However, you also are saying that the random choice was the best option because damo only had 3 votes and therefore the vote could have been controlled by the mafia. I find these justifications somewhat contradictory, if you think the random choice was the best option, why was not choosing damo an accident?

[bozotheclown]

Ike is town, so we are down to these possibilities:

BDY
BER
BEX
(DEY)
DYZ
EYZ

I think DEY is very unlikely, since damo reported Espresso as mafia, setting up damo vs. Espresso as the likely vote options. So, from my point of view, brainbomb is almost certainly mafia.

If Bozo was scum, he wouldn't have reported me town unless i am also scum. So Bozo for me is a town read and we're left with
(DEY)
DYZ
EYZ
There's a Y in every one of those possibilities.....

I think you are assuming I am B, xorxes used B for brainbomb and Z for me.

[bozotheclown]

I think DEY is very unlikely, since damo reported Espresso as mafia, setting up damo vs. Espresso as the likely vote options. So, from my point of view, brainbomb is almost certainly mafia.

If Bozo was scum, he wouldn't have reported me town unless i am also scum. So Bozo for me is a town read and we're left with
(DEY)
DYZ
EYZ
There's a Y in every one of those possibilities.....

Yep, and guess what, I got a tip telling me Yukki isn't aligned with the Agency.
I think it's game over, will have to do the math to see if we can catch the whole team.

It sounds like Ike thought I was B, not Z, which would leave options without yuuki.

[EspressoPatronum]

Huge news from rdr! Hopefully we can get bozo's photos to validate rdr's claim (or really any other claim) and solve it from there.

[damo666]

Ike is town, so we are down to these possibilities:

BDY
BER
BEX
(DEY)
DYZ
EYZ

I think DEY is very unlikely, since damo reported Espresso as mafia, setting up damo vs. Espresso as the likely vote options. So, from my point of view, brainbomb is almost certainly mafia.

If Bozo was scum, he wouldn't have reported me town unless i am also scum. So Bozo for me is a town read and we're left with
(DEY)
DYZ
EYZ
There's a Y in every one of those possibilities.....

@Ike revisit this Bozo=Z B=Brainbomb

[EspressoPatronum]

I think DEY is very unlikely, since damo reported Espresso as mafia, setting up damo vs. Espresso as the likely vote options. So, from my point of view, brainbomb is almost certainly mafia.

If Bozo was scum, he wouldn't have reported me town unless i am also scum. So Bozo for me is a town read and we're left with
(DEY)
DYZ
EYZ
There's a Y in every one of those possibilities.....

I think you are assuming I am B, xorxes used B for brainbomb and Z for me.

I think you're right, bozo. Looks like he mistook you for B.

So fmpv, I have DYZ and BDY left.

I agree with Ike's logic that scum!bozo likely would have lied, so I'm leaning on BDY as the solve.

[bozotheclown]

I think DEY is very unlikely, since damo reported Espresso as mafia, setting up damo vs. Espresso as the likely vote options. So, from my point of view, brainbomb is almost certainly mafia.

If Bozo was scum, he wouldn't have reported me town unless i am also scum. So Bozo for me is a town read and we're left with
(DEY)
DYZ
EYZ
There's a Y in every one of those possibilities.....

Yep, and guess what, I got a tip telling me Yukki isn't aligned with the Agency.
I think it's game over, will have to do the math to see if we can catch the whole team.

If you are town that received a tip, then the only possible mafia team from my point of view is brainbomb, damo, and yuuki. While that is possible, there are too many other possibilities to assume your report is real. You might have just found out your hidden agenda is a grudge against yuuki.

[damo666]

If rdr is telling the truth

it is one of BDY DEY DYZ EYZ

If he is lying it is either BER or BEX with rdr needing scum to win.

I'm 99.9% certain rdr is lying. I cannot logically rule out EYZ but I'm pretty convinced Y & Z are town.

So, either Xorxes is town and we win outright or erm I can't remember what happens if the bote is 4-4.

Anyway as long as town votes E we cannot lose.

[damo666]

The game is over.

D I Y Z vote E

B E R X vote Y

[bozotheclown]

The game is over.

D I Y Z vote E

B E R X vote Y

This is what I think as well.

[damo666]

The game is over.

D I Y Z vote E

B E R X vote Y

unless X is town in which case we win 5-3 but I doubt that is the case.

It will be ironic if Bozo gets a BX or EX in same team so we can completely pinpoint the scumteam but not get an outright win due to the Hidden Agenda

[xorxes]

Ike is town, so we are down to these possibilities:

BDY
BER
BEX
(DEY)
DYZ
EYZ

I think DEY is very unlikely, since damo reported Espresso as mafia, setting up damo vs. Espresso as the likely vote options. So, from my point of view, brainbomb is almost certainly mafia.

If Bozo was scum, he wouldn't have reported me town unless i am also scum. So Bozo for me is a town read and we're left with
(DEY)
DYZ
EYZ
There's a Y in every one of those possibilities.....

B=brainbomb Z=bozo

But bozo had no choice but to report you as town. If he reported you as scum, you would know he was scum, and he needs you to vote with him to win, so with you as town, he couldn't report you as scum whatever his alignment.

[bozotheclown]

I thought yuuki and damo were town early, and nothing has happened to make me think any different. I think the mafia team is brainbomb, Espresso, and xorxes, and rdrivera has either switched to mafia or needs yuuki to be lynched. I think the only way I am wrong is if the mafia team is brainbomb, Espresso, and rdrivera, but I do not think I am wrong.