Mini Mafia 1008 - Triple Agent

[brainbomb]

if I were scum with bozo id tell him to stop open wolfing at this point

[xorxes]

If Ike confesses to brainbomb:
I->B:
BDY
BEI
BER
BEX
(DEY)
DYZ
EYZ

~I->B:
BDY
(BEI)
BER
BEX
DIY
EIX

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If Ike confesses to damo:

I->D
BDY
BER
BEX
(DEY)
DIY
DYZ
EYZ

~I->D
BDY
BEI
(DEY)
(DIY)
DYZ
EIX

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If Ike confesses to EP:

I->E
BDY
BEI
BER
BEX
(DEY)
DYZ
EIX
EYZ

~I->E
BEI
BER
BEX
(DEY)
DIY
(EIX)
EYZ

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If Ike confesses to xorxes:

I->X
BDY
BER
BEX
(DEY)
DYZ
EIX
EYZ

~I->X
BEI
BEX
DIY
(EIX)

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If Ike confesses to yuuki

I->Y
BDY
BER
BEX
(DEY)
DIY
DYZ
EYZ

~I->Y
BDY
BEI
(DEY)
(DIY)
DYZ
EIX
EYZ

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If Ike confesses to bozo

I->Z
BDY
BER
BEX
(DEY)
DYZ
EYZ

~I->Z
BEI
DIY
DYZ
EIX
EYZ

[xorxes]

Summary:

xorxes 6(1); 3(1)
bozo 5(1); 5
damo 6(1); 4(2)
brain 6(1); 5(1)
yuuki 6(1); 5(2)
EP 7(1): 5(2)

Confessing to me would again be the most informative.

[bozotheclown]

Summary:

xorxes 6(1); 3(1)
bozo 5(1); 5
damo 6(1); 4(2)
brain 6(1); 5(1)
yuuki 6(1); 5(2)
EP 7(1): 5(2)

Confessing to me would again be the most informative.

Only if you end up reporting him to be mafia.

[EspressoPatronum]

Summary:

xorxes 6(1); 3(1)
bozo 5(1); 5
damo 6(1); 4(2)
brain 6(1); 5(1)
yuuki 6(1); 5(2)
EP 7(1): 5(2)

Confessing to me would again be the most informative.

Ike confessing to anyone in the Yuuki or EP chains won't help us validate the chain.

Me, xorxes, and damo are involved in the EP chain.

Yuuki, bozo, damo are involved in the Yuuki chain.

That leaves bb. Even though you, xorxes, may yield the most informative confession, it'll help town more as a whole it Ike confesses to BB.

[EspressoPatronum]

Summary:

xorxes 6(1); 3(1)
bozo 5(1); 5
damo 6(1); 4(2)
brain 6(1); 5(1)
yuuki 6(1); 5(2)
EP 7(1): 5(2)

Confessing to me would again be the most informative.

Only if you end up reporting him to be mafia.

Agreed. It's a case of the potentially most informative not necessarily being the most helpful.

[RagingIke297]

Summary:

xorxes 6(1); 3(1)
bozo 5(1); 5
damo 6(1); 4(2)
brain 6(1); 5(1)
yuuki 6(1); 5(2)
EP 7(1): 5(2)

Confessing to me would again be the most informative.

Ike confessing to anyone in the Yuuki or EP chains won't help us validate the chain.

Me, xorxes, and damo are involved in the EP chain.

Yuuki, bozo, damo are involved in the Yuuki chain.

That leaves bb. Even though you, xorxes, may yield the most informative confession, it'll help town more as a whole it Ike confesses to BB.

So how do we validate chains?

[bozotheclown]

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If Ike confesses to bozo

I->Z
BDY
BER
BEX
(DEY)
DYZ
EYZ

~I->Z
BEI
DIY
DYZ
EIX
EYZ

I think Ike should confess to me, it either clears him or confirms one of the two of us is mafia. I am the only choice besides rdrivera that could result in Ike being cleared.

[bozotheclown]

Summary:

xorxes 6(1); 3(1)
bozo 5(1); 5
damo 6(1); 4(2)
brain 6(1); 5(1)
yuuki 6(1); 5(2)
EP 7(1): 5(2)

Confessing to me would again be the most informative.

Ike confessing to anyone in the Yuuki or EP chains won't help us validate the chain.

Me, xorxes, and damo are involved in the EP chain.

Yuuki, bozo, damo are involved in the Yuuki chain.

That leaves bb. Even though you, xorxes, may yield the most informative confession, it'll help town more as a whole it Ike confesses to BB.

So how do we validate chains?

Certainly not by confessing to brainbomb, who can still be mafia with anyone except me.

[rdrivera2005]

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If Ike confesses to bozo

I->Z
BDY
BER
BEX
(DEY)
DYZ
EYZ

~I->Z
BEI
DIY
DYZ
EIX
EYZ

I think Ike should confess to me, it either clears him or confirms one of the two of us is mafia. I am the only choice besides rdrivera that could result in Ike being cleared.

Why people just decide to ignore me? I am by far the best option for a confession at this point.

[yuuki]

Ike needs to confess to bozo.

I vote bozo

[yuuki]

@bozo: if Ike is town we already have a block of 4 town. You and Ike and me and damo. I can see how you can be doubtful, but if you go back and read I'm sure you'll see that everything I have done is townie while EP and xorxes are superscummy. I have always wanted the confession to go to either you or damo with absolutely no preference because I know both of you to be town. If I were mafia lying I wouldn't want that.

[damo666]

@RagingIke if you are town then confess to me, Bozo or yuuki. If you confess to anyone else I will assume you are Mafia.

[damo666]

@town I know we don't need to identify full mafia team to win (we know EP is scum and are gonna vote for him) but I think it would be fun to try and do so, completely solving the game.

[xorxes]

I think Ike should confess to me, it either clears him or confirms one of the two of us is mafia. I am the only choice besides rdrivera that could result in Ike being cleared.

You still have an old photo to reveal, which means if you are scum you would be in full control of the last two reveals.

[xorxes]

Why people just decide to ignore me? I am by far the best option for a confession at this point.

You are like a third party until you get your win condition.

[damo666]

Summary:

xorxes 6(1); 3(1)
bozo 5(1); 5
damo 6(1); 4(2)
brain 6(1); 5(1)
yuuki 6(1); 5(2)
EP 7(1): 5(2)

Confessing to me would again be the most informative.

Having thought some more Ike town bozo better than yuuki, Ike maf me better than yuuki so yuuki redundant.

##vote Bozo to hear Ike's confession.

[bozotheclown]

I think Ike should confess to me, it either clears him or confirms one of the two of us is mafia. I am the only choice besides rdrivera that could result in Ike being cleared.

You still have an old photo to reveal, which means if you are scum you would be in full control of the last two reveals.

The benefit of Ike confessing to me is that there are no remaining possibilities where Ike and I are scum together:
BDY
BEI
BER
BEX
(DEY)
DIY
DYZ
EIX
EYZ

If I report Ike is town, he is clear to everyone regardless of my alignment. If I report he is mafia, everyone knows one of us is mafia. So, even if I were mafia, Ike confessing to me would still be the best option, because it would force me to clear him or counter claim him.

[yuuki]

I think Ike should confess to me, it either clears him or confirms one of the two of us is mafia. I am the only choice besides rdrivera that could result in Ike being cleared.

You still have an old photo to reveal, which means if you are scum you would be in full control of the last two reveals.

The benefit of Ike confessing to me is that there are no remaining possibilities where Ike and I are scum together:
BDY
BEI
BER
BEX
(DEY)
DIY
DYZ
EIX
EYZ

If I report Ike is town, he is clear to everyone regardless of my alignment. If I report he is mafia, everyone knows one of us is mafia. So, even if I were mafia, Ike confessing to me would still be the best option, because it would force me to clear him or counter claim him.

I think this is sound logic

[yuuki]

@damo:

I think so far it is safe to say that bozo you and me are town and that EP and xorxes are scum together. We are pretty close to solving the game as Ike will either be cleared or can join the scum team with his confession choice. The only real challenge will be figuring out rdrivera.