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Anyone else see the AI Gaza Video Trump Shared

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 8:01 pm
by Esquire Bertissimmo
https://globalnews.ca/news/11049806/donald-trump-shares-ai-video-vision-for-gaza-truth-social/

"An AI-generated video was shared on U.S. President Donald Trump’s Truth Social account, showcasing a depiction of an imagined future of Gaza — featuring an enormous golden statue of Trump, bearded belly dancers, a shirtless Trump [and Netenyahu] sunbathing on a beach and Elon Musk eating hummus."

What the fuck? This is an outrageous and embarrassing thing for the President of the US to share.

Re: Anyone else see the AI Gaza Video Trump Shared

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 8:08 pm
by CaptainFritz28
Look in the comments. Almost every single one, and rightly so, is labeling it as evil and repugnant. Almost every comment is something along the lines of "Trump, I support you, but come on dude this is just stupid."

And I couldn't agree more. Especially depicting a giant golden statue of the man as if it were an ideal, it's absolutely ridiculous.

Re: Anyone else see the AI Gaza Video Trump Shared

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 8:15 pm
by Esquire Bertissimmo
It's honestly a funny video in a dark humour way, but an extremely moronic thing for Trump to share on his socials.

This post was either a genuine reflection of his thinking on Gaza, a massive lapse in judgement, or something that was expected to appeal to some significant share of his base — any of which are an indictment on his presidency.

Obviously the actual policy on the ground is what really matters, but childish shit like this adds insult to injury for no apparent reason. To channel my inner Jamie: Fuck Trump.

Re: Anyone else see the AI Gaza Video Trump Shared

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:11 pm
by Octavious
Wow.

I think this can be interpreted as Trump's determination to maintain an informal and jokey relationship with his supporters rather than becoming the Office of President and putting inevitable distance between him and his base... And he's certainly managed to avoid personifying the Office by doing this.

Clearly extremely poor taste (nothing new there), but also refreshing self deprecating. I think it's safe to say it doesn't work for us, but neither does it change anything for us. To the intended audience maybe it is appreciated as evidence that Trump is not being corrupted by his Office. We can but speculate.

Re: Anyone else see the AI Gaza Video Trump Shared

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:14 pm
by Esquire Bertissimmo
An extraordinarily charitable explanation for an extraordinarily tasteless and stupid decision as usual :) Glad to know Trump's genius extends even to the sharing of outrageous videos.

Re: Anyone else see the AI Gaza Video Trump Shared

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:03 pm
by Octavious
Charitable in what sense? Genius in what sense? You have adopted a strange habit of inventing a narrative with no clear connection to any facts.

I have seen some speculation that it's designed to focus the minds of Arab nations in the Middle East. A nightmare vision of what will happen unless they buck their ideas up and come up with their own solution

Re: Anyone else see the AI Gaza Video Trump Shared

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:07 pm
by Esquire Bertissimmo
You work backwards, always, from the idea that Trump's moves are strategic and well thought out. Many Trump decisions no doubt are.

But one possibility you neglect is that Trump might just be a 78 year old ego maniac, surrounded by sycophants, firing from the hip on all sorts of issues he may not understand very well nor particularly care about. It's wrong to analyze all Trump decisions in this way, as some do - but that strikes me as a relatively parsimonious explanation for this extremely misguided Truth Social post compared to the alternatives you've presented.

Even if you're right and I'm wrong, Trump sharing that video represents a degree of moral bankruptcy that degrades the Office of the Presidency and cartoonifies the administration's policy towards Israel-Gaza. No other Republican president would be doing this silly shit - so shame on Trump's enablers.

Re: Anyone else see the AI Gaza Video Trump Shared

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:00 pm
by Octavious
Of course I neglect it. If your narrative about what's taking place only makes sense if you assume the other guy is an idiot or a lunatic, 999 times out of a 1000 it's because your narrative is wrong. This is true in politics, it's true in games of diplomacy, it's true in virtually everything. You know that team Trump are highly intelligent and capable by virtue of them winning the Presidency, and it's self indulgent delusional twaddle to pretend otherwise.

Re: Anyone else see the AI Gaza Video Trump Shared

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:21 pm
by Esquire Bertissimmo
"He won so he's smart on all accounts" is surely not analysis you'd be pushing for Biden nor many of your own PMs.

The reality is sometimes the wrong person captures the cultural zeitgeist and gives a quorum of stupid or vindictive people what they want.

Re: Anyone else see the AI Gaza Video Trump Shared

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:54 am
by Octavious
Yes, it is. Team Biden were highly intelligent and capable when they won the election. Biden himself declined as his Presidency progressed, but his team remained capable enough. And yes, all of our PMs have been talented. Some have had interesting blind spots, but they have all been intelligent

Re: Anyone else see the AI Gaza Video Trump Shared

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 11:56 am
by kingofthepirates
another day, another trump L. Very cringe video, glad it’s getting ripped to shreds (reddit was doing their thing, as Fritz mentioned the comments here are also bad. Etc)

Re: Anyone else see the AI Gaza Video Trump Shared

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 4:21 pm
by Esquire Bertissimmo
Octavious wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:54 am
Yes, it is. Team Biden were highly intelligent and capable when they won the election. Biden himself declined as his Presidency progressed, but his team remained capable enough. And yes, all of our PMs have been talented. Some have had interesting blind spots, but they have all been intelligent
Trump is obviously very talented in many dimensions. Very few people could have captured and totally reorientation the Republican party from the outside. Nobody is as good at "the weave" as him. He was right about China at a time when many establishment types laboured under outdated dogmas. He's an expert insulter, name-caller, and attention-getter.

All I'm saying is he obviously has blind spots, something you never seem to consider in practice. And they're not subtle blind spots. He's ego driven, petty and vindictive. He's not much for reading. He prefers loyalty over competence for his inner circle. He appears to personally engage social media unfiltered and in the middle of the night in a manner that's clearly not well thought out. He says shit before he or his team have actually thought it through—quotes from his own people regarding his plan to expel all the Gazans confirm this. So yeah, when he shares an absolutely moronic social media post it's possible that it has more to do with his blind spots than his brilliance.

Re: Anyone else see the AI Gaza Video Trump Shared

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 4:55 pm
by Octavious
You are of the opinion that Trump created that video on a whim and just posted it? It is possible, but only if the AI he's using is packing a hell of a lot more punch than anything I've seen and he has become extremely comfortable using it and he was both in his most trigger happy reckless mood as well as being far less worried about unflattering images of him being shown than usual. To me it feels highly unlikely that all these stars aligned and far more likely that this was a deliberate and thought through action.

Re: Anyone else see the AI Gaza Video Trump Shared

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:04 pm
by Esquire Bertissimmo
Trump didn't create the video, he shared it. It's someone else's video. The original intention of the video's creator was probably to satirize Trump's ill-concieved plan for Gaza.

The punch it's packing is because it's fucking awful. So many people are vocally disgusted by it and a few disgusting people love it.

There's nothing stopping you from thinking Trump is playing 7 dimensional chess in every Truth Social post but it's not likely.

Re: Anyone else see the AI Gaza Video Trump Shared

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:36 pm
by Esquire Bertissimmo
^ After a bit of Googling I can confirm the video was made by an Israeli group and was meant as satire. In that context its good fun, pretty incisive. It's not so great when its shared earnestly by the man with a plan to genocide all Gazans...

Re: Anyone else see the AI Gaza Video Trump Shared

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:02 pm
by Octavious
Oh, sorry. I misunderstood the narrative. This whole thing is just about Trump sharing a video he found amusing on his followers on his small corner of social media? What a complete non story! I was under the impression that his team had created it. Yes, in that case it is possible he shared it on a whim. Frankly, who gives a damn?

Re: Anyone else see the AI Gaza Video Trump Shared

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:09 pm
by Esquire Bertissimmo
To reiterate why I give a damn: "Trump sharing that video represents a degree of moral bankruptcy that degrades the Office of the Presidency and cartoonifies the administration's own (evil) policy towards Israel-Gaza."

Truth Social is official White House communications in the Trump era.

These are the rare insights we get into Trump's thinking now that no major politicians submit themselves to actual journalistic interviews.

Re: Anyone else see the AI Gaza Video Trump Shared

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 1:45 pm
by MajorMitchell
As a preface the genealogy experts in the previous generations of my family are to be believed then I have ancestors who came to Britain in 1066 & landed near Hastings
about 26 generations back in my family were our Crusaders who won our Principalities in Heaven
however it has to be admitted that they did not properly exterminate the Semitic tribes, please understand that the Arabic tribes, including the Hassidic Arabs are/ were all Semites.
The assumption I regard as most amusing is that the Hassidic Arabs (Israelis) made this video as an amusing satire
Perhaps there is a deliberate tactic to attack the "enemies of Israel" with this video

By showing them a vision with an underlying message to intimidate them.
We'll take your land, the Gaza strip with American help from Trumptoad

The AI used is basic "good" level A1 for this stuff and not the best AI available, so the assumption is amatuers with a decent skill set.

Which is a mark of a superior intelligence service operation & Mossad are an elite intelligence organisation.
The KGB clearly have an ability to manipulate Trumptoad, most likely the result of a classic KGB "honey trap" tactic, using women agents using sex to ensnare men.

Why assume that Mossad are incapable of manipulating Trumptoad???

This video has everything needed to:
Get Trumptoad to share it on social media
Give the enemies of Israel an intimidating message, We the Israelis can take the disputed land and keep it, with help from Trumptoad

Re: Anyone else see the AI Gaza Video Trump Shared

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 2:01 pm
by MajorMitchell
The KGB honey trap tactics used young women and young men as agents targeting women and men
A number of middle aged women who were secretaries for powerful civil servants etc were victims of the KGB honey traps
Plus businessmen from Western nations were targeted
In terms of Return on Investment... the KGB honey traps in 1960s 1970s & 1980s were very effective