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Trump supporters who believe the Government has a machine that controls Hurricanes

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 6:45 pm
by brainbomb
This is apparently not a new conspiracy but theres an actual one shared among millions of Trump supporters that the weather is controlled by Democracts. that there is a secret connection between chemtrails, and some program called haarp that actually generates controls and steers storms to hit Republican states. And the craziest part of this theory is that this has supposedly been widely used by every administration back to Obama. This theory is so widely believed among republicans that even Majorie Taylor Greene apparently has discussed the democrats being responsible for creating hurricane Helene and Milton.

Re: Trump supporters who believe the Government has a machine that controls Hurricanes

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 6:46 pm
by brainbomb
Is this a trolling thing that Republicans just came up with or is this an actual belief?

Re: Trump supporters who believe the Government has a machine that controls Hurricanes

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:10 pm
by Octavious
These machines exist. I believe they're called coal fired power stations

Re: Trump supporters who believe the Government has a machine that controls Hurricanes

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:23 pm
by Esquire Bertissimmo
Two 2016 studies found that about 10% of Americans believe that secret geoengineering or "chemtrails" (i.e., that planes intentionally release harmful chemicals to control the weather) are "completely true," with an additional 20-30% open to the idea being "somewhat true." These beliefs have probably become stronger and more widespread alongside the general rise in conspiracism since the pandemic.

I have a childhood friend who believes that small canisters of gas deployed via commercial jet engines are used to control the weather. This friend simultaneously doubts that the cumulative impact of all other greenhouse gas emissions have anything to do with climate change.

Re: Trump supporters who believe the Government has a machine that controls Hurricanes

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 9:51 pm
by Trigfea63
Fantasyland by Kurt Andersen helps explain the wacko beliefs held by so many Americans. It traces crazy ideas from the Pilgrims right up through Donald Trump getting elected in 2016. Apparently today's madness is nothing new.

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/35171984-fantasyland

Re: Trump supporters who believe the Government has a machine that controls Hurricanes

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:27 pm
by brainbomb
I cant claim to understand the science behind all of that but if this was something our federal government had that they actually use regularly; have they offered any explanation as to why only democrats would ever have used it?

Im saying if this exists; trump can openly confirm it and so can most of the other actual people in congress. If this were true; then Trump had access to it also and couldve been using it to spread wildfires in california or steer hurricanes north towards new england.

Theres some really dumb shit going on

Re: Trump supporters who believe the Government has a machine that controls Hurricanes

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:32 pm
by kingofthepirates
there are many memes of this, all of which go along the lines of:
Republicans: climate change isn't real!1!1!!111
also republicans: yeah there exist machines which can change the climate and cause storms

(yes there is a misconception here between climate and weather, but still, the point holds that this is quite contradictory)

Re: Trump supporters who believe the Government has a machine that controls Hurricanes

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 2:06 am
by CaptainFritz28
Curious. I've lived in a conservative community all my life yet never heard this theory.

Re: Trump supporters who believe the Government has a machine that controls Hurricanes

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 4:51 pm
by kingofthepirates
CaptainFritz28 wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 2:06 am
Curious. I've lived in a conservative community all my life yet never heard this theory.
It's a small group to be sure, but the internet has (as it does) generalized it to republicans as a whole. I can't find a meme of it rn, but I distictly remember seeing several yt shorts including it and several on reddit. mtg had at least 1 tweet on.

Re: Trump supporters who believe the Government has a machine that controls Hurricanes

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 6:17 pm
by learnedSloth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_cyclogenesis#Requirements_for_tropical_cyclone_formation

Forming a hurricane doesn't look simple. :neutral:

Re: Trump supporters who believe the Government has a machine that controls Hurricanes

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:55 pm
by brainbomb
CaptainFritz28 wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 2:06 am
Curious. I've lived in a conservative community all my life yet never heard this theory.
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/07/marjorie-taylor-greene-hurricane-helene

Re: Trump supporters who believe the Government has a machine that controls Hurricanes

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:01 pm
by brainbomb
“Climate change is the new Covid.

Ask your government if the weather is manipulated or controlled.

Did you ever give permission to them to do it?

Are you paying for it?

Of course you are..
6:26 PM · Oct 7, 2024”
-marjorie taylor greene

This woman is a fucking idiot.

Re: Trump supporters who believe the Government has a machine that controls Hurricanes

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 12:31 am
by Jamiet99uk
brainbomb wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:01 pm
“Climate change is the new Covid.

Ask your government if the weather is manipulated or controlled.

Did you ever give permission to them to do it?

Are you paying for it?

Of course you are..
6:26 PM · Oct 7, 2024”
-marjorie taylor greene

This woman is a fucking idiot.
She is worse than an idiot. She is an extreme racist, an avowed white supremacist, an anti-semite, and a homophobic bigot who should probably be in jail or a mental asylum. She is a violently dangerous fucking lunatic, a fantasist, and a habitual liar.

She makes Lauren Boebert look like a normal, sensible, well-adjusted human being.