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Utter Betrayal

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:30 am
by leon1122
So, Trump decided to sign the universally hated omnibus spending bill that also contains the privacy-breaching Cloud Act on the same day as he announces that he's ordering the Department of Justice to ban bump stocks. SMH. These are not the values that we the people elected Trump to represent. Democracy is dead in America; it's clear that the military-industrial complex runs the country now, and nothing short of a revolution will be able to change that.

Re: Utter Betrayal

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:57 pm
by Tom Bombadil
Is it that much of a surprise?

Republican voters elected someone who isn't a Republican...

He won the election on promising a big spending bill. And he signed it. I'd hardly call that a betrayal.

Re: Utter Betrayal

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:18 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Oh no, the banning of bump stocks. How awful.

Re: Utter Betrayal

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:19 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Now it will take leon longer to kill his victims when he goes on his inevitable murder-suicide rampage. So inefficient and sad.

Re: Utter Betrayal

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:55 pm
by Foxcastle
"We the people"... "democracy"... Where were you when he lost the popular vote and was made president by the undemocratic (yet still perfectly legal/constitutional) Electoral College?

Re: Utter Betrayal

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:18 pm
by brainbomb
Uh, I am impressed leon isnt just a slack jawed yes man like most trump bungholers

Re: Utter Betrayal

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:51 pm
by President Eden
That bill is trash, I’m mad too. I am going to wait and see how things play out because we’ve had other examples of this happening before.
For his faults he’s still our only real ally.

Re: Utter Betrayal

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:01 pm
by Durga
Hahahahahah

Re: Utter Betrayal

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:00 pm
by ghug
President Eden wrote:
Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:51 pm
That bill is trash, I’m mad too. I am going to wait and see how things play out because we’ve had other examples of this happening before.
For his faults he’s still our only real ally.
Who is "our" here?

Re: Utter Betrayal

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:25 pm
by ghug
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:19 pm
Now it will take leon longer to kill his victims when he goes on his inevitable murder-suicide rampage. So inefficient and sad.
Please avoid accusing each other of being violent criminals.

Re: Utter Betrayal

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:14 pm
by TrPrado
President Eden wrote:
Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:51 pm
That bill is trash, I’m mad too. I am going to wait and see how things play out because we’ve had other examples of this happening before.
For his faults he’s still our only real ally.
https://tinyurl.com/y7oc6k6c

Re: Utter Betrayal

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:37 pm
by leon1122
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:57 pm
Is it that much of a surprise?

Republican voters elected someone who isn't a Republican...

He won the election on promising a big spending bill. And he signed it. I'd hardly call that a betrayal.
He promised increasing infrastructure spending, not military spending. This is clearly the work of the military-industrial complex, and I'd bet my life that it has some dirt on him.


@Eden What's the point of having an ally who talks the big talk but caves to every demand from the swamp.

Re: Utter Betrayal

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:56 pm
by TrPrado
leon1122 wrote:
Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:37 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:57 pm
Is it that much of a surprise?

Republican voters elected someone who isn't a Republican...

He won the election on promising a big spending bill. And he signed it. I'd hardly call that a betrayal.
He promised increasing infrastructure spending, not military spending. This is clearly the work of the military-industrial complex, and I'd bet my life that it has some dirt on him.


@Eden What's the point of having an ally who talks the big talk but caves to every demand from the swamp.
I don’t think we watched the same campaign two years ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g3EKkSHWIn0

Re: Utter Betrayal

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:06 pm
by peterlund
Leon, how sane is it to put any trust at all in a constantly lying shithead with dark brown values?

Re: Utter Betrayal

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:29 pm
by Octavious
What's a dark brown value when it's at home?

Re: Utter Betrayal

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:42 pm
by CroakandDagger
A warm and comfortable dark brown value, i'd assume.

Re: Utter Betrayal

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:43 pm
by leon1122
peterlund wrote:
Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:06 pm
Leon, how sane is it to put any trust at all in a constantly lying shithead with dark brown values?
At this point, I don't think it really matters who the President is. The deep state has full control over this country.

Re: Utter Betrayal

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:45 pm
by peterlund
It is those embarrassing values that lead to decline in tourism:
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/travel ... -6-n840326
No big surprise to me as also I am boycotting that nation until he is out...

Re: Utter Betrayal

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:53 pm
by TrPrado
leon1122 wrote:
Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:43 pm
peterlund wrote:
Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:06 pm
Leon, how sane is it to put any trust at all in a constantly lying shithead with dark brown values?
At this point, I don't think it really matters who the President is. The deep state has full control over this country.
I suppose this is one way of coping with the fact that you backed someone who strays from your values but you had projected your own onto him. How did you feel when he said the lack of support for DACA in the bill was a major reason he was considering veto-ing the omnibus?

But Federal policies don't mean nearly as much as people give them credit for. I've been focusing more and more on local and state policies because those impact people day to day.

Re: Utter Betrayal

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:55 pm
by peterlund
Ok to be very explicit. In the Swedish language we associate "Brown values" with Mussolini and Franco. Dark brown is an extension of that.