Trump shot at by his own supporters during rally

[brainbomb]

“This is the newest fashion trend!” delegate Joe Neglia, 63, of Arizona, told CBS News of the folded white envelope he taped across his own ear.

“I’m getting this going — everybody in the world is going to be wearing one of these pretty soon. It’s the latest thing,” he said.

“I’m setting new fashion ground here.”

[Jamiet99uk]

Fucking idiots.

[Crazy Anglican]

It's probably a good thing. If there was going to be a sympathy vote, having their own supporters turn it into a something ridiculous, could backfire on them. Just so long as the opposition doesn't look heartless. Having someone shoot at you is no joke. Having your supporters wearing red hats with white ear patches is a little bit funny though.

Poor lady caught on film picking her nose in public didn't help the brand either.

[Esquire Bertissimmo]

I'm no Trump fan, but I can't help but think of the silly shit hardcore Dems would probably be doing if it were Biden who had narrowly escaped an assassination attempt.

Of all the ways one could respond to having their preferred presidential candidate nearly get killed on live TV, this seems pretty benign.

[brainbomb]

I mean, benign and harmlessly stupid sure. But really, still just very stupid. I think its magnified because they also believe that biden is so old and senile that he cant even do anything right, and yet they think biden is also a mastermind who stole an election, and Ive even heard theories they think biden knew of the assassination and told the secret service to let trump get taken out.

So which is it, a senile old man who cant even put his slacks on, or a criminal mastermind puppet master who tried to take trump out?

[brainbomb]

you dont have to answer that above question. Im sure like most of the shrill people in this part of the forum, you all think that Biden is too old, while also being a potential corrupt mastermind. Because sure. thats a thing

[Octavious]

you dont have to answer that above question. Im sure like most of the shrill people in this part of the forum, you all think that Biden is too old, while also being a potential corrupt mastermind. Because sure. thats a thing

No one believes both those things. What's happening here is you are seeing Republicans who believe he's a doddery old fool and seeing Republicans who see him as a bit of a tyrant, and you're mistakenly thinking they're the same people because both groups are Republicans.

Top tip in both real life and Diplomacy. If your interpretation of events only makes sense if you assume the other people involved are complete idiots, you have almost certainly got it wrong.

[Esquire Bertissimmo]

BB it'd like saying the Dems believe both that the assassination attempt was a false flag coordinated by Trump and that Trump is so stupid that no matter how senile Biden is he'll still have a cognitive advantage over Trump. In reality only a handful of very stupid people believe both those things at once. A larger circle of still fairly stupid people believe in just one of these two things. Most D voters believe neither.

[Esquire Bertissimmo]

Now this is the type of stupidity I was hoping for following the assassination attempt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbJDXUi24gM

[CaptainFritz28]

I don't agree at all, to be honest. What you are viewing as hypocrisy looks to me to be clear evidence that the gun friendly population of America have nuanced views regarding the right to carry guns and are not the absolutists they are often portrayed as being. "We support gun rights but believe there should be rules to protect people's safety in a range of circumstances" is a far better reflection of right wing American attitudes than the gun crazed lunatic stereotype the American left lazily thrusts upon them.

I think the opposite is true as well. Most advocates for gun control aren't absolutists either. Gun control isn't synonymous with banning guns, but any discussion of gun control tends to get the, "You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hands" response. This is an issue where the loudest people with absolutist views seem to be the ones that prevent any meaningful work among those with more moderate views. It is also the way that both parties tend to characterize people in the other one.

I think the trouble is in the type of gun control which we end up with from the dynamic between the two extremes. Instead of anything meaningful that actually helps stop violence and makes sense, we get the ATF's slough of ridiculous cosmetics rules.

[CaptainFritz28]

So which is it, a senile old man who cant even put his slacks on, or a criminal mastermind puppet master who tried to take trump out?

I find it curious that you seem not to believe that such a thing as Biden having an administration that makes decisions exists. I'm not saying it's either of those, but to resolve your befuddlement over how someone could see Biden as both evil and stupid, consider that those who think it likely believe that Biden himself is too daft to make his own coffee but is the public face of an evil administration, and so when they say "Biden is evil and being puppeteered," they mean "Biden is being used for evil purposes by those controlling him.

[CaptainFritz28]

you dont have to answer that above question. Im sure like most of the shrill people in this part of the forum, you all think that Biden is too old, while also being a potential corrupt mastermind. Because sure. thats a thing

I tend towards the former, (about Biden and a host of politicians from both sides of the aisle), but again, why does he have to be a corrupt mastermind if other people can do that for him? Not saying that's what I believe, but I'm just confused that you seem to think that people think it must all be him being both stupid and evil genius when that very obviously wouldn't be the case.

I don't see the contradiction you're putting forward here because I think it's a false dichotomy. That certainly doesn't prove the other extreme true, though.

[brainbomb]

I saw alot of posts there implying that im this out of touch crazy person and yet I didnt see a single one of you say “No trying to kill Trump was definetely not an inside job by the Biden Administration”.

So am I to assume that storyline is still on the table for you?

[brainbomb]

Im just noting that you choose to take issue with Republicans being construed as having contradictory views on Bidens age or Biden being an evil genius; but I didnt see anyone take a stance saying that bidens admin definetely did not steal an election nor did they try to arrange a trump death. That seems to be a fairly problematic side of the republican party to be defending right?

[Octavious]

I saw alot of posts there implying that im this out of touch crazy person and yet I didnt see a single one of you say “No trying to kill Trump was definetely not an inside job by the Biden Administration”.

So am I to assume that storyline is still on the table for you?

Mate, I only know one person who has put that story on the table, and that person is you. We could debate the merits of it if you like, but I suspect it would be a very short debate. Even if you believed that there was someone in the Biden administration who would countenance such a plan, and enough corrupt officials to carry it out, you still have to overcome the awkward hurdle that there are few candidates as unlikely to win an election as Trump. Trump is the only Republican Biden has a chance of beating, and as such team Biden would be as keen to keep him alive as team Trump is to keep Biden in the race.

I'm afraid, brainbomb, you appear to have taken a pretty sharp turn away from reality in recent weeks. Maybe you should take a break from politics for a while. The election will still be there when you come back.

[CaptainFritz28]

I saw alot of posts there implying that im this out of touch crazy person and yet I didnt see a single one of you say “No trying to kill Trump was definetely not an inside job by the Biden Administration”.

So am I to assume that storyline is still on the table for you?

Why in the world would not talking about it imply assuming its truth? Am I to assume that because I've not seen you explicitly say that the Earth is round, you must be a flat-Earther?

[CaptainFritz28]

Im just noting that you choose to take issue with Republicans being construed as having contradictory views on Bidens age or Biden being an evil genius; but I didnt see anyone take a stance saying that bidens admin definetely did not steal an election nor did they try to arrange a trump death. That seems to be a fairly problematic side of the republican party to be defending right?

Can a fellow not defend a party on some topics and disagree with them on others? Or when someone takes sides, must their only option be to dive wholesale into the extremist end of that party? That sort of thinking has driven us into the tribalism we now face, that has given us these two terrible candidates as our only options. While I doubt that you want that, it's precisely what assuming that anyone who disagrees slightly with you is an idiot does.

[brainbomb]

well if you don't want to answer the question you can continue with the gaslighting. ill grab my popcorn.

[brainbomb]

I find it curious that you seem not to believe that such a thing as Biden having an administration that makes decisions exists. I'm not saying it's either of those, when they say "Biden is evil and being puppeteered," they mean "Biden is being used for evil purposes by those controlling him.

This seems to be a soft endorsement of the Biden admin being both evil and while not directly stated; agreeing softly that they orchestrated an assassination attempt and an election heist. Again, it isnt directly stated because youd rather spend your time attacking me than making a clear argument for something.

[brainbomb]

I saw alot of posts there implying that im this out of touch crazy person and yet I didnt see a single one of you say “No trying to kill Trump was definetely not an inside job by the Biden Administration”.

So am I to assume that storyline is still on the table for you?

Why in the world would not talking about it imply assuming its truth? Am I to assume that because I've not seen you explicitly say that the Earth is round, you must be a flat-Earther?

Since you bring it up, are you saying that you are a Flat Earther? once again, youre trying to now tie me in with people who are basically troll level insanity.