Clarification

[Mike213]

In the Ancient Mediterranean can a fleet in Baleares be used to convoy an army? On the variant homepage it is written that a fleet can be used for convoy so I need clarification.

[Mercy]

No, a fleet in Baleares cannot convoy an army. Good question.

[Claesar]

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/variants.php#AncMed

Special rules/information:

Differing from the rules of the original variant, a fleet occupying the Baleares may not be used to convoy an army using the normal convoy rules.

[Mike213]

Can an army be convoyed there by a fleet?

[Claesar]

Can an army be convoyed there by a fleet?

Yes, if the fleet is in an adjacent body of water i.e. Berber or Ligurian Sea.

[Mike213]

Thanks that was helpful

[ChippeRock]

Can an army be convoyed there by a fleet?

Yes, if the fleet is in an adjacent body of water i.e. Berber or Ligurian Sea.

I'm going to get ahead of this next question: Can an army in Baleares move to Tarraco or Saguntum and vice versa?

[Claesar]

I'm going to get ahead of this next question: Can an army in Baleares move to Tarraco or Saguntum and vice versa?

Not without a convoy.

[Mike213]

If there is an army in Baleares and it is dislodged then will it be disbanded automatically? Or can it retreat via convoy?

[Claesar]

If there is an army in Baleares and it is dislodged then will it be disbanded automatically? Or can it retreat via convoy?

It will be disbanded. Units can never retreat via convoys.

[jochadwi]

The order tool permits an order of A(SAG) to BAL WITHOUT A CONVOY requirement.

will this go through?

[captainmeme]

The order tool permits an order of A(SAG) to BAL WITHOUT A CONVOY requirement.

will this go through?

That's an unfortunate quirk of the system. This move needs a convoy, otherwise it won't go through, regardless of what the order tool says.

[Jamiet99uk]

Indeed.

If it would be possible for an army to move by convoy from A to B, then the system will allow you to order the army from A to B, even if you don't also order a relevant fleet to provide the convoy.

The army's order would be a valid order, but would fail.

[gimix]

Now i'm a bit confused... i don't have the possibility to test the specific case right now, but let's recap:

If a convoy from A to B is possible, which means: 1. there is a sea path linking coast sector A to coast sector B, and 2. there is a fleet (from any country) in every sea sector on that path - then the move order is valid and the order tool should offer it; whether the fleet(s) involved receive the corresponding convoy order(s) or not is irrelevant as long as order validity is concerned: it's like when you set a support order, and then the supported unit does something different - the order is valid, but it just fails.

The order tool on the other hand is expected to show that move with the "(via convoy)" specification.

So if the option is "The army at A move to B (via convoy)" this is perfect; if instead the option is simply "The army at A move to B", or even "The army at A move to B (via land)", then there is something wrong

[Squigs44]

I remember looking into this once, but I can't remember what I found out. Obviously not enough to warrant a change.

[Claesar]

I believe it's a known bug specific to Baleares.