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Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:04 pm
by captainmeme
Going to pause the by-country updates, but I'll get the round 2 scores in today.

Would people prefer fresh start for R2 or continuation of the previous scores?

Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:13 pm
by Sploack
I don't have a real preference, but since the bot seems way different (and weaker) perhaps it's better to start from scratch to compare our performance with its new one?

Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:14 am
by C0nd0r
Are they still taking applicants?
I submitted my form about a day or so ago, but I have had no response.
If they still are, what time do the games start, I can't find that anywhere?

Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:44 pm
by Claesar
Yes, they are.

Games start at 8AM, noon and 4PM Pacific time.

Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:34 pm
by C0nd0r
Thanks Claesar!

Still no response though, should I expect it through email, discord, pm or something else?

I'm really keen to give the competition a go, it's incredible how 'smart' AI is getting!

Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:50 pm
by Claesar
They will send an email.

Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:23 am
by C0nd0r
Ok thanks, should I expect it soon?

As I said I'm very keen to play speedboat, it's been a while since I last played one!

Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:43 am
by Claesar
I have no idea. I'd suggest sending another email to [email protected]

Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:08 am
by Claesar
I received the email quoted below, so they have all the data they need :-)

"We would like to inform you that our tournament has finally come to an end and we are very thankful to all our active gamers who participated in Diplomacy game over the last several weeks. This would not have been possible without your support."

Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:00 pm
by Sploack
Meta's plan:

1) Make an incredibly strong diplomacy bot that is statistically superior to very strong human players
2) Halfway through the tournament, substitute that bot with a newer, extremely weak one that will lose 90% of games
3) Make sure that the weak bot does not get any stronger over the weeks
4) ???
5) Profit!

Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:03 pm
by Polynoamial
Thanks for participating everyone!

For the second half of the tournament we put in a couple different "baseline" bots to see how they compare to our main bot. The idea is that in addition to showing that our bot beats strong humans, we also want to show that other bots *can't* beat strong humans. That indeed appears to be the case, at least for the two bots that we compared to.

Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:10 pm
by Sploack
Oh, very interesting, and good to know.

I was just making a joke of course :-D

Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:37 pm
by pyxxy
C0nd0r wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:23 am
Ok thanks, should I expect it soon?

As I said I'm very keen to play speedboat, it's been a while since I last played one!
For you or anyone else who wants to keep playing speedboat, the Nexus Leagues discord runs a speedboat league:
https://discord.gg/GeWhNMWeBC

Some quick info about NL speedboat:

- games are organized in the discord
- uses Backstabbr, not WebDip
- spontaneous games, not scheduled (although staff helps fill the games!)
- fixed Winter 1912 end date, so that games only take 2.5-3 hours at most
- custom scoring system and standings, with ~2 month seasons + a post-season
- players from different timezones but currently most active during NA hours