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Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

#41 Post by captainmeme » Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:04 pm

Going to pause the by-country updates, but I'll get the round 2 scores in today.

Would people prefer fresh start for R2 or continuation of the previous scores?
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#42 Post by Sploack » Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:13 pm

I don't have a real preference, but since the bot seems way different (and weaker) perhaps it's better to start from scratch to compare our performance with its new one?

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#43 Post by C0nd0r » Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:14 am

Are they still taking applicants?
I submitted my form about a day or so ago, but I have had no response.
If they still are, what time do the games start, I can't find that anywhere?
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#44 Post by Claesar » Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:44 pm

Yes, they are.

Games start at 8AM, noon and 4PM Pacific time.

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#45 Post by C0nd0r » Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:34 pm

Thanks Claesar!

Still no response though, should I expect it through email, discord, pm or something else?

I'm really keen to give the competition a go, it's incredible how 'smart' AI is getting!
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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. -Will Rogers
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Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

#46 Post by Claesar » Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:50 pm

They will send an email.

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#47 Post by C0nd0r » Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:23 am

Ok thanks, should I expect it soon?

As I said I'm very keen to play speedboat, it's been a while since I last played one!
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Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

#48 Post by Claesar » Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:43 am

I have no idea. I'd suggest sending another email to [email protected]

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Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

#49 Post by Claesar » Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:08 am

I received the email quoted below, so they have all the data they need :-)

"We would like to inform you that our tournament has finally come to an end and we are very thankful to all our active gamers who participated in Diplomacy game over the last several weeks. This would not have been possible without your support."
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Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

#50 Post by Sploack » Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:00 pm

Meta's plan:

1) Make an incredibly strong diplomacy bot that is statistically superior to very strong human players
2) Halfway through the tournament, substitute that bot with a newer, extremely weak one that will lose 90% of games
3) Make sure that the weak bot does not get any stronger over the weeks
4) ???
5) Profit!

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Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

#51 Post by Polynoamial » Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:03 pm

Thanks for participating everyone!

For the second half of the tournament we put in a couple different "baseline" bots to see how they compare to our main bot. The idea is that in addition to showing that our bot beats strong humans, we also want to show that other bots *can't* beat strong humans. That indeed appears to be the case, at least for the two bots that we compared to.
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Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

#52 Post by Sploack » Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:10 pm

Oh, very interesting, and good to know.

I was just making a joke of course :-D
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Re: Paid Tournament Through Meta, Signups Open

#53 Post by pyxxy » Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:37 pm

C0nd0r wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:23 am
Ok thanks, should I expect it soon?

As I said I'm very keen to play speedboat, it's been a while since I last played one!
For you or anyone else who wants to keep playing speedboat, the Nexus Leagues discord runs a speedboat league:
https://discord.gg/GeWhNMWeBC

Some quick info about NL speedboat:

- games are organized in the discord
- uses Backstabbr, not WebDip
- spontaneous games, not scheduled (although staff helps fill the games!)
- fixed Winter 1912 end date, so that games only take 2.5-3 hours at most
- custom scoring system and standings, with ~2 month seasons + a post-season
- players from different timezones but currently most active during NA hours
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