MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

[Durga]

If im afraid of something when im scum im not gonna invite attention being called to it. If two town have guns im not gonna say "I hope they dont shoot!!"

I don't really get this. Or why your behaviour necessarily translates to theirs. I would not want the town guns to shoot as scum. Why would you?

[brainbomb]

The act of ophthalmophobia was not conveyed by scum. It was displayed by squiggs who appeared to withhold reads N0. That certainly suggests he thought a cannon holder may kill him.

But the only time this ever happened was when y2k floated the idea that squiggs was townclearing durga in a tmi snafu.

[Durga]

Can you be clear with what your point is exactly. Because if you're implying I'm town, you're right

[brainbomb]

Squiggs is my first actual scumread so far btw

But I can't vote for him until D2. Can't buck tradition...

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Puzzling statement

Flash were you ever thinking about n0 shooting me?

[brainbomb]

Can you be clear with what your point is exactly. Because if you're implying I'm town, you're right

I do think youre exonerated by this and many other things. Im seeing their posts as buttering you up- advising you publicly and trying to get off your crosshairs. If you were scum with them these posts have too much risk being public

[brainbomb]

I dont know if youve changed scum meta on ms but both moscow and squiggs openly talking about you and your gone seems like something youd not approve of.

[Durga]

I dont know if youve changed scum meta on ms but both moscow and squiggs openly talking about you and your gone seems like something youd not approve of.

What are they saying about me and my gun?

[flash2015]

Squiggs is my first actual scumread so far btw

But I can't vote for him until D2. Can't buck tradition...

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Puzzling statement

Flash were you ever thinking about n0 shooting me?

Not seriously, no. Whilst I like to vote for you D1 (I know that lynch will never happen), doesn't mean I would like to ruin your game.

[Durga]

Please don't replace your scumread on me for a scumread on Flash.

After some rereading I'm thinking it really is most likely within:
ND
rd
yavu

I'm going to just shut up on worcej, I think I was wrong with him. Vecna and RHK seem unlikely too.

[brainbomb]

My next objective was to look for people who had brave reads.

Ghugs interpretation of squiggs vecna read.

He lazily gave a read on Vecna, one of his stronger townreads at that, without thinking of a good reason for it. That's not something you do with a teammate.

Heres the actual read from squigglykins

​"Vecna - Pretty standard Vecna. Active, pushing people, makes sense, seems genuine. Town."

​"First, Xorxes question regarding my Vecna read. Honestly that reads list was put together in a a hurry, so I really only iso'd a couple of players I thought were scummy. I remembered thinking Vecna was townie, so on my reads list I put he was standard townie Vecna to me and put some of the things standard townie Vecna does. After looking back, I realize that Vecna didn't do as much as I had remembered. I'll have to look into him more in-depth when I have more time."

I guess im.gonna follow ghug here and put durga-vecna as town.
Even tho they killt him wid me

[bo_sox48]

Vote Count 4.06

yavuzovic (2) - flash2015, worcej
Durga (2) - y2kjbk, ND
ND (2) - rdrivera2005, Durga
rdrivera2005 (2) - Vecna, DemonRHK
worcej (1) - yavuzovic
Vecna (1) - brainbomb

END: yavuzovic (1) - worcej

Currently, NOBODY is set to be lynched.

You have 19 hours left in D4.

[Durga]

##Call GM: If sticky roleblocks and kills armour, does the armour get stuck on them, thereby letting the kill go through?

[rdrivera2005]

Can you enumerate (again?) the coincidences informing your read?

>xorx makes a post close to end of night that I see as crumbing he was scanning RD (“when someone is in my radar...”)
>xorx then dies with a nurse kit still in play
>RD claims roleblocked, THEN LATER claims he had two items to claim, saying he wants to reveal LAST (avoid possible cc’s?), and then FINALLY claims sticky + armor to try to counter Yavu retracting armor for electro

My issues are thus:
- If scum is worried about xorx indeed scanning, why do you not roleblock him with the nurse’s kit in play to make sure it doesn’t go off?
- xorx, Vecna, ND, and RD all were players without claims or accepted crumbs (Worc was widely believed to be an armor crumb, and Yavu had claimed armor as well) This is four players, and if they hadn’t hit it that is a significant chance to hit the shield.

I propose the following:
- scum rb’d and killed xorx, fearing he was repaired cop scanning RD
- when xorx flipped RD claimed rb having tested the viability of claiming it with Durga the night before.
-RD then claims two items, BUT not WHAT two items, allowing him to rotate the claim from thief/head to repair/cop to sticky/??? As needed to discredit people.
-RD then finally claims sticky and armor trying to get Yavu lynched, knowing he will get two kills for one if successful (note: this wouldn’t clear Yavu as it could have been a bus. RD would bus his mother for a nickel)

RD is scum and made a slick play. But N2 makes no sense if xorx wasn’t roleblocked.

Could you not reference my mother please?

Also, I hardly bus. Wasn't you who pushed my myslinch because I voted only scum on a game? Or was Bozo? I don't remember, you two always scumread me.

[brainbomb]

DAY 2 HAS BEGUN

YOU HAVE 48 HOURS

YOU MAY POST.

Tom Bombadil
Day-2 47:55
page 54 Sweet

y2kjbk
Day-2 47:55
page 54 My nurse's kit is spent on brainbomb. InB4 a scum claim that I have to counter.

worcej
Day-2 47:55
page 54 Woo? Okay, so the scum team clearly missed somehow... re-reading rules on how...

worcej
Day-2 47:54
page 54
↑y2kjbk: "My nurse's kit is spent on brainbomb. InB4 a scum claim that I have to counter."
Nevermind my last post lol

Worcej- you had a medkit but didnt understand how scumteam could have missed on a nk?

Why wouldnt you have assumed your doc save was the target?

[Durga]

DAY 2 HAS BEGUN

YOU HAVE 48 HOURS

YOU MAY POST.

Tom Bombadil
Day-2 47:55
page 54 Sweet

y2kjbk
Day-2 47:55
page 54 My nurse's kit is spent on brainbomb. InB4 a scum claim that I have to counter.

worcej
Day-2 47:55
page 54 Woo? Okay, so the scum team clearly missed somehow... re-reading rules on how...

worcej
Day-2 47:54
page 54
↑y2kjbk: "My nurse's kit is spent on brainbomb. InB4 a scum claim that I have to counter."
Nevermind my last post lol

Worcej- you had a medkit but didnt understand how scumteam could have missed on a nk?

Why wouldnt you have assumed your doc save was the target?

Wouldn't Jamiet send him a PM saying his fail saved?

[brainbomb]

Or that theres 2 medkits? This seems odd man

[brainbomb]

Yes but his reaction was he didnt know how a scumteam kill could miss. How do you interpret that?

[ND]

So how am I wrong on Durga?

[Durga]

Yes but his reaction was he didnt know how a scumteam kill could miss. How do you interpret that?

Agh just as I clear him in my mind

[bo_sox48]

##Call GM: If sticky roleblocks and kills armour, does the armour get stuck on them, thereby letting the kill go through?

Let me know if I misunderstand you.

If the sticky takes the armor from someone that visits them, but the person that visited sticky is attacked, then the person that visited the sticky lost their armor and then is attacked. Thus, they die, unless saved otherwise.