MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

[flash2015]

I dunno. The wind is taken out of our sails now. Somebody needs to step up. Alot of talented players still alive- durga yes is good at mafia when she can focus. I think vecna and rivera need to be more in charge.

And if y2k really is town he should do some cases. Reread.

I dunno if I really am awed by anyone after today. Ghug being town was rather predictable I didnt think he was scum.


Rhk not following thru on yav is worth a second look.

So who are your potential scum targets now?

[rdrivera2005]

I dunno. The wind is taken out of our sails now. Somebody needs to step up. Alot of talented players still alive- durga yes is good at mafia when she can focus. I think vecna and rivera need to be more in charge.

And if y2k really is town he should do some cases. Reread.

I dunno if I really am awed by anyone after today. Ghug being town was rather predictable I didnt think he was scum.


Rhk not following thru on yav is worth a second look.

Me and Vecna were the main wagons for most of the day and we are far from clear, how we can lead town?

[Vecna]

bainbomb - Hardcleared. No reasonable situation in which he is scum.

damo666 - Hardcleared. No reasonable situation in which he is scum.

DemonRHK - In the pool of suspicion. No RB N1 might mean scum roleblocked their lover to be able to wait with picking a better target later. Was pretty gung-ho for Rdrivera, as I would expect a weak scum setup to be, since they cannot easily get rid of armor-wearers. Confirmed not the guy that rb'd RD if RD is town (although if scum knew the sticky is still out there, why on earth would you not have your lover do the roleblocks?)

Durga - Confirmed not the armored tank that Chaqa is. Is mean to Vecna but secretly just really admires my art.

flash2015 - Confirmed not the RB on Rdrivera unless scum did some really weird roleswaps.

ND - Could technically be the guy that RB'd Rdrivera if Squigs/MF had his claimed item. Pretty unlikely he faked a role that was on the dead townies.

rdrivera2005 - The big mystery. Ghug flipping town makes it much less likely that Rdrivera is scum. Its still possible if Xorxes or Bozo was sticky, and they lost an item N1 or N2. This would make the puzzle all that much weirder though.

Yavuz - Im still having trouble coming up with a way in which he wouldve come to his claim as scum. Scum definately would not repair kit on this shield item to deduce whether it was on the three dead people. Its possible that they repair kitted the thief, and have the thief steal the shield from Xorxes. Even if this is the case, it means they wouldve needed a way to communicate what was stolen from Xorxes, and Yavuz wouldve needed to interpret that signal. Else his fakeclaim wouldve just been a lucky guess......even though it might not have been so hard knowing what was missing.

worcej - Worcej claimed early enough that I do not really see how he could not just be cleared here. The story of him checking the sticky on ND also seems weird enough that I dont think this is a fakeclaim.

y2kjbk - Not buying Brainbombs theory.

[Vecna]

##Call GM: Can the love-heart item be roleblocked so that the itemholder does not become loved to the person?

[Durga]

I haven't been mean to you Vecna

[Jamiet99uk]

##Call GM: Can the love-heart item be roleblocked so that the itemholder does not become loved to the person?

Yes.

[brainbomb]

Do people not like me playing in these games? I got the impression that maybe I just wasnt welcome anymore or something. I thought people liked me around here. I consider this community my internet home and im not really very good at diplomacy or mafia for that matter I guess. I just didnt realize that I was also disliked as a person.

[brainbomb]

I got the impression that both the simulator and my forum activity were enjoyed over the years.

[Durga]

Do people not like me playing in these games? I got the impression that maybe I just wasnt welcome anymore or something. I thought people liked me around here. I consider this community my internet home and im not really very good at diplomacy or mafia for that matter I guess. I just didnt realize that I was also disliked as a person.

I prefer you in diplomacy. But I also think I prefer you when we aren't playing any games together. Yep. I don't like you in games.

[brainbomb]

People talk about me like im this horrible game destroying parasite. I mean im really bad at shutting up when I feel strongly im right about something. But thats also who I am. Im not a shy person irl. I get very hot headed and I am used to working in chaotic environments where you have to be strong willed or things around you fall apart quickly.

Today I had no dishwasher show up. Busy morning rush. The machine broke down. Its the last day of an end of day and towns disorganized. My work lifes disorganized. And I gotta both keep my cool irl and here. Both things got away from me. I have a staff that works hard but theres just alot of things to try to focus on. I male time for mafia because its not supposed to be stressful. Its not supposed to ramp up my blood pressure. Instead I have to both solve a game and wonder if im even actually appreciated for what im doing.

I dont want this to be a job. This is my fun guilty pleasure not my livelihood. And I dont want it to become an excercise where im trying to enjoy my time with a group of people who just kinda low key hate my guts and everything about me.

[brainbomb]

I pressure most people with the same intensity and tenacity. If I dont thats how you know im.scum. my.meta is pretty self condemning to the naked eye. Its night and day how flakey and contrived I am.

What drives my y2k read is that inability to see how obvious I truly was. There were pages after pages y2k was posting item lists obnoxiously with his own narratives as fact. Over and over. Like it felt almost personal after a while. I dunno how im.supposed to buy that was real

[brainbomb]

His ghug push to me feels like it was pureky driven to squash the theory that ghug was lying about the head


But not because y2k felt ghug was scum


Because y2k knew that if ghug dies it makes the idea he isnt a clear even more farfetched. And I feel thats all there was to that motivation. I saw no reasoning why ghug was scum. It was apparent to me y2k knew the thief really stole the item. And that leaves only 1 theory left.

Moscow thief stole the head
Y2k repair kit
Squiggs foam hammer
Nd-vecna-rd-or yav had armor

[brainbomb]

I dont think durga is scum anymore
Theres plenty of reasons why flash-worcej-damo-me-drhk-rivera are town


If I die dont let y2k win in lylo.
Please lynch among vecna-y2k-ND or yav.

I believe riveras claim

[Vecna]

##Call GM: Can the love-heart item be roleblocked so that the itemholder does not become loved to the person?

Yes.

Does this mean the person with the item still needs to choose a new person N2? The item description states it only triggers at N1.

Can one roleblock effectively negate the negative downside of the item?

[Durga]

what happens if foam hammer blocks electro shield

[Vecna]

(I think this might mean that the scumteam is DemonRHK + ND)

[y2kjbk]

bb, your conclusion was that i'm scum and not that i was trying to vet my theory of you similarly to how i tried to vet flash or worcej or xorxes? you went OMGUS on me pretty quickly after I opened D3 with a vote on you, unlike those other 4, and i was trying to understand how you could be railing against me so much with seemingly no analysis of the nurse kit situation. you were throwing me in as a partner with random people. i saw your spamming not as an actual vetting of my scumminess, but as a pure OMGUS to blow up the game after my vote for you. which you effectively did. i had no idea how to respond to your spam. and i got the impression you didn't really care.

[y2kjbk]

so i decided i needed to ignore you and listen to other people. if you're town, you were an absolute shitshow yesterday for no reason. if you're scum, you successfully derailed my vote.

[ND]

I think Vecna has gone a little nutty. Go back to MS Paint and draw some low iq shapes or something k?

[Jamiet99uk]

##Call GM: Can the love-heart item be roleblocked so that the itemholder does not become loved to the person?

Yes.

Does this mean the person with the item still needs to choose a new person N2?

Yes.