MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#4221 Post by Durga » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:29 am

ND wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:28 am
addressed, I feel there are better suspects and I am convinced about you Durga. But, like I asked earlier and no one answered: How am I wrong about Durga. That's an open question I would like to know. What about my case is wrong? How is she not scum. What am I not seeing.
Stop tunneling on me for a second and give me more specifics about rd. Why isn't he a big suspect? Do you town read him? For what?

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#4222 Post by brainbomb » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:33 am

I think worcejs claim is scum


Hes trying to present it both as an armor claim and a medic claim. Both which happen to be the 2 doubled items.

He wrote +1 on his armor on his crumb. I find his doc saves suspect.

Tom was his N1 doc save
Tom was mostly scumread and worcej doesnt have a single post about tom day 1 or N1

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#4223 Post by bo_sox48 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:34 am

GM NOTE:

I have been asked to clarify the sticky. The player with the sticky does not visit other players in order to cast a roleblock. They roleblock and steal the item belonging to the first player that visits them. Afterwards, the sticky wears off. The sticky cannot visit other players.
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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#4224 Post by brainbomb » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:34 am

##Vote worcej

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#4225 Post by Durga » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:39 am

bo_sox48 wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:34 am
GM NOTE:

I have been asked to clarify the sticky. The player with the sticky does not visit other players in order to cast a roleblock. They roleblock and steal the item belonging to the first player that visits them. Afterwards, the sticky wears off. The sticky cannot visit other players.
I see. So if Sticky roleblocks someone, the targets item does not stick to them.

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#4226 Post by Durga » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:39 am

brainbomb wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:34 am
##Vote worcej
Can you honestly just focus and vote someone that makes sense for once

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#4227 Post by Durga » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:41 am

##Call GM - one more question, sorry if this has been asked. If electro-shield is roleblocked, does scum learn that the roleblocked failed?

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#4228 Post by brainbomb » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:41 am

I had to go back and double check the rules on the items to ensure that it was a one-time investigator use. Once that was established, it looks legit
All items are one time use.
The only items that arent are armors which are perpetual and medkits which remain consecutive.

I think worcej held and armor not a medkit based on save choices
Based on how he chose not to save y2k or myself. Or really anyone towny looking n1. He chose TOM?? LOL what? Why?

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#4229 Post by brainbomb » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:42 am

Why does worcej suddenly make no sense? You had him as scum 2 hours ago and he crumbed having armor?

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#4230 Post by bo_sox48 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:42 am

Durga wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:39 am
bo_sox48 wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:34 am
GM NOTE:

I have been asked to clarify the sticky. The player with the sticky does not visit other players in order to cast a roleblock. They roleblock and steal the item belonging to the first player that visits them. Afterwards, the sticky wears off. The sticky cannot visit other players.
I see. So if Sticky roleblocks someone, the targets item does not stick to them.
No. The sticky blocks the player from using said item and steals the item. The only reason that they block the player from using the item is because some items would be used first in the order of operations, which would nullify the effect of the sticky.

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#4231 Post by Durga » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:43 am

brainbomb wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:42 am
Why does worcej suddenly make no sense? You had him as scum 2 hours ago and he crumbed having armor?
Actually you convinced me he wasn't scum when you looked up the stupid sc2 thing. Which he alluded to twice, one of which I don't think makes sense in the context of armour?

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#4232 Post by bo_sox48 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:43 am

Durga wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:41 am
##Call GM - one more question, sorry if this has been asked. If electro-shield is roleblocked, does scum learn that the roleblocked failed?
No.

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#4233 Post by brainbomb » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:44 am

Durga wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:43 am
brainbomb wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:42 am
Why does worcej suddenly make no sense? You had him as scum 2 hours ago and he crumbed having armor?
Actually you convinced me he wasn't scum when you looked up the stupid sc2 thing. Which he alluded to twice, one of which I don't think makes sense in the context of armour?
But he added +1 armor to the sc2 crumb. He was crumbing 2 roles at once

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#4234 Post by brainbomb » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:44 am

The sc2 character had 1 armor. Worcej presented it as having 1 (+1).

He was claiming both roles. Both of which are the 2 doubled up roles

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#4235 Post by ND » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:48 am

Why isn't Rd a top scum read for me? He was for a bit D3 but part of my reads evolved. I no longer think he fits as your partner. Vecna is a better fit and to a lesser extent Yav. They don't fit in the same ways, but both have done things that have made me suspect them. During D3 and at certain moments I was fairly certain Rd was scum, but some of his statements during D3 towards the end really made me second guess it. His reactions and attitude towards it made me think that it can't be him. I can pull those quotes up if you want, but unlike you he didn't just log out or vanish or try to tie a vote. If he is scum he fooled me based on some of his statements and my read of him has evolved post D3. But, I don't think he is scum any longer.

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#4236 Post by Durga » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:50 am

brainbomb wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:44 am
The sc2 character had 1 armor. Worcej presented it as having 1 (+1).

He was claiming both roles. Both of which are the 2 doubled up roles
https://puu.sh/BwMXz/94c7a31584.png

Maybe this explains it?

Maybe it doesn't really matter if he had a +1 to it?

Do you remember the order of claims between worcej-yav-rd-vecna? can you tell them to me

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#4237 Post by brainbomb » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:50 am

Tom Bombadil (3) ND y2kjbk DemonRHK

Thats the day 1 wagon on tom


Worcej used a doc save allegedly on the next biggest wagon which flipped D2.


Tom Bombadil (9) ghug ND yavuzovic* brainbomb worcej DemonRHK Durga damo666 y2kjbk


Whyd worcej go from docsaving tom
To lynching him the next day?
Worcej
I don't like any of the active wagons personally. None of them stand out as scum to me by this game and so far it seems most are leveraging prior games into this one.

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Day-2 03:05
page 96
↑flash2015: "So we are saying now two out of the following three are scum via PoE? ND-yav-Tom."
Well Tom is definitely scum. I'm not. And well I still think you are suspicious after our conversation last night omg. Sick shit last night.

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Day-2 03:02
page 96 Ok ND lets see

brainbomb
Day-2 03:02
page 96 ##End


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Day-2 03:02
page 97
↑brainbomb: "Ok ND lets see"
I'll add to this too - ##vote Tom

(His votes D2 are durga-tom-nd-vecna-nd-tom)

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page 106
↑y2kjbk: "i don't understand this at all. I'll be shocked if ND flips scum."
##vote Tom - let's see what happens

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#4238 Post by Durga » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:51 am

I am like, very near sure that the scum team is either rd-ND or rd-yav - I am leaning towards the former but ND is hard to read

##vote rd

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#4239 Post by Durga » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:54 am

Dude, worcej is the one who tried to use his fucking medkit to catch fucking sticky. Actually speaking of worcej, what did he do with his kit last night? He should have used it on rd

Also, if he WAS scum, wouldn't he come up with something fucking better than "oh I used it on Tom" NO, he'd be like "yeah I used it on y2k he's a clear" come ON brainbomb, Tom is clearly a stupid misjudgement on his part. Worcej has NO idea what's going on in this game, but that isn't a factor of his scumminess, it's a factor of his bad townie play. What kind of scum claims a medic kit and goes "yeah man I wanted to see if ND was sticky"

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#4240 Post by Durga » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:55 am

Not even ND is dumb enough to do that

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