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A Tribute to 500 Games of Twenty Questions

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:57 pm
by DarthPorg36
Hello esteemed members of the webdiplomacy community! As you may have figured out by perusing the forums, we have recently completed 500 games of 20 questions. This is a monumental moment, as games have seemingly been happening for years. I have enjoyed playing these games sporadically, although I haven't been super great at guessing. For those who have, however, a round of applause!

Total Games 500
1. Spartaculous 75
2. Hominidae 63
3. DreamTrawler 41
4. Aristocrat 37
5. damo666 35
6. cdngooner 32
7. miminena 29
8. Jamiet99uk 23
9. JECE 14
T10. Hamish 11
T10. han-shahanshah 11

What I would most like to talk about here, however, is a side project I've been working on. As a self-proclaimed geography and history nerd, (although that can't be super unique on a semi-historical geography-based board game site) I have analyzed the country of every 20 questions pick, and figured out what country they're from. Then, I've compiled the data to see what happens!

Some rules are as follows: If the person is real, use the country that pops up on Google or Wikipedia. If this doesn't happen, use their parents' country. If there is a split among them, or their parents don't apply, use the place where they spent most of their time, especially in childhood. If this doesn't apply, use their place of birth, if that doesn't apply, then I pick for them.

If their nationality is a country that no longer exists (eg Byzantine, Roman, Austria-Hungary) then default to place of birth, modern country (eg Rome, Roman Empire --> Italy; Alexandria, Roman Empire --> Egypt)

If this character is not real, but lives on earth, use the country where they live. If they do not live on earth or it is unclear, use the country of their creator. If creator is unknown, then attribute it to the area where this character was introduced, else, default to my pick.

If the character is something slightly absurd, like "the Lizz Truss lettuce" then I pretty much just pick. (In that case, United Kingdom)

Speaking of which, this is based off of country, not nationality. Scottish, Welsh, and English are all "United Kingdom" and Kurdish could be "Turkey" "Iraq" "Iran" "Syria" etc. If there is ever an issue with this, default to place of birth, else my choice.

In the end, only a few needed extreme specifications like this. Now, onto the discoveries I have made!

EXHIBIT A
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This is a world map colored by frequency. The darker the red, the more common the country pick! You may notice the United States and United Kingdom are the deepest red, which I suppose makes sense due to the site being a large portion American and British, and mostly English speaking (whether first or second language). South America, Africa, Central Asia, Eastern Europe, the Caribbean, and Oceania are remarkably lacking in picks. If you want to change it up, go from there!

EXHIBIT B
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This is a pie chart of percent frequency of each country. If you thought the UK and US were too common, before, look again! Combine, they make up over fifty percent of all of the 20 questions picks. In order of most popular, United States, United Kingdom, France, Italy, Russia, Germany, Japan, China, Spain, Greece, India, Hungary, Australia, and then the rest (mostly picked no more than 3 or 4 times) Enjoy seeing just how the proportions turn out!

EXHIBIT C
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This is the raw count data of the countries. The last one was percentages. What's remarkable here is just how dwarfed most other countries are by the US and UK. The US over 200 picks, the UK just over 100. Nobody individually comes close. When reading left to right, you see the order in which the first time a country appeared. Way to go Austria! You broke the UK and US curse first! Countries I'm surprised even made the list, but I'm glad they did, include: Trinidad and Tobago, Libya, Zimbabwe, Barbados, Nepal, Cyprus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Cameroon. Another note: you may notice these numbers exceed 500. That is true, the true total of picks is actually 551, factoring in multiball rounds, minus "Slender Man" which I could not for the life of me find the creator's nationality (but probably US or UK)

The longest streak of any country in a row goes to United States (8) (Games 80-87)
The longest streak of any two countries goes to US & UK (16) (Games 180-195)

I hope you enjoy, and further questions let me know! A toast to another 500 rounds of 20 questions, and maybe someone will do this with the second batch after game 1000!

Re: A Tribute to 500 Games of Twenty Questions

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:58 pm
by DarthPorg36
Upon posting this, I realized the images got messed up. Exhibit A is the bottom one, Exhibit B is the middle one, and Exhibit C is the top one. Don't know why that happened.

Re: A Tribute to 500 Games of Twenty Questions

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:04 pm
by miminena
i interpret this as a challenge to fill out the world map, and will choose my next picks accordingly :3

Re: A Tribute to 500 Games of Twenty Questions

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:05 pm
by miminena
very impressive job! honestly never expected the US and UK to be that overrepresented

Re: A Tribute to 500 Games of Twenty Questions

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:06 pm
by miminena
interesting how almost all of the arabian peninsula and central asia are grey

also very surprised that there hasn't been anyone from indonesia yet

Re: A Tribute to 500 Games of Twenty Questions

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:06 pm
by DreamTrawler
This is amazing, I've wondered about this idly in the past but never put in the work to actually compile the data.

Re: A Tribute to 500 Games of Twenty Questions

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:07 pm
by DreamTrawler
miminena wrote:
Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:06 pm
interesting how almost all of the arabian peninsula and central asia are grey
Huh, not even a Genghis Khan or Muhammad in there. We've missed most of Africa and South America as well.

Re: A Tribute to 500 Games of Twenty Questions

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:10 pm
by miminena
also both the netherlands and portugal are grey

Re: A Tribute to 500 Games of Twenty Questions

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:25 pm
by DreamTrawler
While we're here, and on the topic of 500 rounds, here's some info about round frequency:

Round 1 the first round of 2022 (in May).
Round 79 was the first round of 2023.
Round 165 was the first round of 2024.
Round 433 was the first round of 2025.

Rounds 1-100 were from May 2022-March 2023. (13 months)
Rounds 101-200 were from March 2023-February 2024. (11 months)
Rounds 201-300 were from February 2024-May 2024. (4 months)
Rounds 301-400 were from May 2024-November 2024. (7 months)
Rounds 401-500 were from November 2024-March 2025. (5 months)

Re: A Tribute to 500 Games of Twenty Questions

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:28 pm
by miminena
DreamTrawler wrote:
Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:25 pm
While we're here, and on the topic of 500 rounds, here's some info about round frequency:

Round 1 the first round of 2022 (in May).
Round 79 was the first round of 2023.
Round 165 was the first round of 2024.
Round 433 was the first round of 2025.

Rounds 1-100 were from May 2022-March 2023. (13 months)
Rounds 101-200 were from March 2023-February 2024. (11 months)
Rounds 201-300 were from February 2024-May 2024. (4 months)
Rounds 301-400 were from May 2024-November 2024. (7 months)
Rounds 401-500 were from November 2024-March 2025. (5 months)
i think it's been said before that the turning point was round 165?

Re: A Tribute to 500 Games of Twenty Questions

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:37 pm
by miminena
And while we're talking statistics, here are the top ten games by number of posts (hosts in parentheses):

1. Game 128 - Multiball (Octavious)
2. Game 89 (Balki Bartokomous)
3. Game 384 - Multiball (loresend)
4. Game 71 (JECE)
5. Game 500 - Multiball (miminena)
6. Game 97 (JECE)
7. Game 62 (Bonatogether)
8. Game 379 - Multiball (Hominidae)
9. Game 79 (damo666)
10. Game 83 (Balki Bartokomous)

Re: A Tribute to 500 Games of Twenty Questions

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 9:00 pm
by Spartaculous
miminena wrote:
Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:37 pm
And while we're talking statistics, here are the top ten games by number of posts (hosts in parentheses):

1. Game 128 - Multiball (Octavious)
2. Game 89 (Balki Bartokomous)
3. Game 384 - Multiball (loresend)
4. Game 71 (JECE)
5. Game 500 - Multiball (miminena)
6. Game 97 (JECE)
7. Game 62 (Bonatogether)
8. Game 379 - Multiball (Hominidae)
9. Game 79 (damo666)
10. Game 83 (Balki Bartokomous)
Balki's games were kind of... talky?

Re: A Tribute to 500 Games of Twenty Questions

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:46 pm
by Spartaculous
This is all very interesting, DarthPorg. If Mimi is okay with it, maybe you could add a new sheet to the 20Q Google sheet with this information?

I'd also be interested to see a birthplace-only version of the map... I know that we've had picks born in Zambia and Chile, for example.

Also, I wish the Atlantic Ocean was given a non-grey color.

Re: A Tribute to 500 Games of Twenty Questions

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:49 pm
by miminena
Spartaculous wrote:
Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:46 pm
This is all very interesting, DarthPorg. If Mimi is okay with it, maybe you could add a new sheet to the 20Q Google sheet with this information?

I'd also be interested to see a birthplace-only version of the map... I know that we've had picks born in Zambia and Chile, for example.

Also, I wish the Atlantic Ocean was given a non-grey color.
oh please do, i've been meaning to do demographics on the sheet for a while now, so if you're fine with it i'd love to make a section for it

Re: A Tribute to 500 Games of Twenty Questions

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 11:03 pm
by Spartaculous
Spartaculous wrote:
Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:46 pm
This is all very interesting, DarthPorg. If Mimi is okay with it, maybe you could add a new sheet to the 20Q Google sheet with this information?

I'd also be interested to see a birthplace-only version of the map... I know that we've had picks born in Zambia and Chile, for example.

Also, I wish the Atlantic Ocean was given a non-grey color.
Oh, I just noticed Antarctica is missing from the map.

Re: A Tribute to 500 Games of Twenty Questions

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 11:09 pm
by DreamTrawler
Spartaculous wrote:
Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:46 pm
This is all very interesting, DarthPorg. If Mimi is okay with it, maybe you could add a new sheet to the 20Q Google sheet with this information?

I'd also be interested to see a birthplace-only version of the map... I know that we've had picks born in Zambia and Chile, for example.

Also, I wish the Atlantic Ocean was given a non-grey color.
It seems like the USSR picks were lumped in to Russia as well, I know we've had Kasparov for example.

Re: A Tribute to 500 Games of Twenty Questions

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 4:32 am
by Spartaculous
miminena wrote:
Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:28 pm
DreamTrawler wrote:
Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:25 pm
While we're here, and on the topic of 500 rounds, here's some info about round frequency:

Round 1 the first round of 2022 (in May).
Round 79 was the first round of 2023.
Round 165 was the first round of 2024.
Round 433 was the first round of 2025.

Rounds 1-100 were from May 2022-March 2023. (13 months)
Rounds 101-200 were from March 2023-February 2024. (11 months)
Rounds 201-300 were from February 2024-May 2024. (4 months)
Rounds 301-400 were from May 2024-November 2024. (7 months)
Rounds 401-500 were from November 2024-March 2025. (5 months)
i think it's been said before that the turning point was round 165?
I had previously counted the number of rounds per month. I went back and updated the list. (I haven't doublechecked this or anything.)

May22: 4
Jun22: 22
Jul22: 15
Aug22: 10
Sep22: 7
Oct22: 6
Nov22: 7
Dec22: 8
Jan23: 12
Feb23: 5
Mar23: 7
Apr23: 8
May23: 7
Jun23: 3
Jul23: 6
Aug23: 6
Sep23: 9
Oct23: 9
Nov23: 7
Dec23: 7
Jan24: 19
Feb24: 23
Mar24: 40
Apr24: 26
May24: 27
Jun24: 32
Jul24: 22
Aug24: 25
Sep24: 9
Oct24: 11
Nov24: 12
Dec24: 22
Jan25: 24
Feb25: 25
Mar25: 19 (so far)

Re: A Tribute to 500 Games of Twenty Questions

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 11:50 am
by damo666
Great work.

I've often wondered about the following splits if somebody wants to do the work

Real v Fictional

Dead V alive

Male V female

My common early question of real dead male tells you what I suspect.

Re: A Tribute to 500 Games of Twenty Questions

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:01 pm
by DarthPorg36
miminena wrote:
Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:49 pm
Spartaculous wrote:
Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:46 pm
This is all very interesting, DarthPorg. If Mimi is okay with it, maybe you could add a new sheet to the 20Q Google sheet with this information?

I'd also be interested to see a birthplace-only version of the map... I know that we've had picks born in Zambia and Chile, for example.

Also, I wish the Atlantic Ocean was given a non-grey color.
oh please do, i've been meaning to do demographics on the sheet for a while now, so if you're fine with it i'd love to make a section for it
I'm more than happy to upload it to a new section, or give the raw data to miminena so they can upload it. Let me know what is easiest!

Re: A Tribute to 500 Games of Twenty Questions

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:01 pm
by DarthPorg36
damo666 wrote:
Wed Mar 26, 2025 11:50 am
Great work.

I've often wondered about the following splits if somebody wants to do the work

Real v Fictional

Dead V alive

Male V female

My common early question of real dead male tells you what I suspect.
I didn't analyze these, but I had thought of it. My general vibe of the picks is exactly what you suspect, real dead males are most common