20 Questions Game 488 - Multiball Edition!

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20 Questions Game 488 - Multiball Edition!

#1 Post by DreamTrawler » Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:19 pm

RULES
0. The purpose of this game is for the Question Master (QM) to select an entity to be guessed, and for the contestants to deduce the identity of this entity by asking a series of questions.

1. Only binary (yes/no) questions may be asked. Conditional questions are allowed, but conditional guesses are NOT allowed.

2. If the QM cannot determine with reasonable certainty whether the answer to a particular question is "Yes." or "No.", they will simply reply with "Pass". Questions that are answered in this way will not count towards the twenty-question limit, but all other binary questions will count towards the limit. Re-asking passed questions verbatim is not allowed, but contestants are welcome to rephrase passed questions and ask those. The QM is permitted to use discretion to pass certain questions on principle, but must be transparent about this.

3. Before the twentieth question is answered, one free guess per contestant does not count against the total twenty questions, but additional guesses by the same contestant do.

4. After all twenty questions are answered, there are no more free guesses, and five total guesses (combined among the contestants) shall be allowed.

5. No player shall ask more than two consecutive questions, where a guess (free or unfree) counts as a question. EG: If Player A asks a question; and Player B makes a guess; Player A may go next with up to two questions. This means you cannot ask 2 questions and then follow it up with a guess.

6. The Question Master may choose entities real or fictional that are not horribly obscure, so long as they are not repeats.

7. Whoever guesses correctly takes over from the previous question master; if they do not want to do it, they may choose someone else provided they are willing.

8. In the unlikely event the question master remains undefeated three times in a row they must choose someone else to be the next QM (provided they are willing).

9. If terminology in a question is undefined, the QM defines it however they think is most reasonable (or may ask the questioner to clarify or re-phrase the question). Questions regarding the methodology used do not count towards the 20 questions and best come with an example figure.

10. A contestant can "scratch" their own question or guess before it is answered. Scratched questions and guesses do not count as questions or guesses for the purposes of the total count, or the two consecutive questions/guesses rule.

11. If someone guesses a character who has already been a correct answer in 20 Questions before, that guess will not be counted as a guess.

12. The use of artificial intelligence in the solving process, aside from the AI answers that automatically come up on search results, is not permitted.

For game history, see here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uXCl7ynaYyUH86zL98dIx8Bbo9WEJCqFnFFsfGg8vz4/edit?usp=sharing

Special rules for the multiball in next post...

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Re: 20 Questions Game 488 - Multiball Edition!

#2 Post by DreamTrawler » Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:21 pm

***MULTIBALL RULES (mostly copied from previous multiball round)***

There are SEVEN persons to guess this round: Persons A, B, C, D, E, F, and G. (In this context, "persons" does not necessarily mean human beings, but merely "beings" or "characters", as following our traditions.) Your job, as the guessers, is to deduce the identities of these seven persons by asking a series of binary (yes/no) questions.

For each person, the guesser who first correctly guesses him/her/them/it will receive a point. The highest score at the end of the game will win. In case of a tie, all guessers who tied for the highest score will be declared winners, and the winning guesser who is currently on the longest drought will be invited to run the next game.

None of these persons are repeats from a previous round.

Each guesser is entitled to seven free guesses (combined over all seven targets to guess). These may be used at any time (before or after the twentieth question is answered for each person). Correct guesses result in the guess being refunded (so that a guesser who has made one correct guess and three incorrect guesses still has two guesses remaining). The QM is entitled to unilaterally award additional guesses to all guessers.

Asking questions: Up to 20 questions are allowed per person to guess. Guessers are allowed to make a guess that applies to all persons, or just to one or some of them. Example: "Persons A, B, E: Is this person born in the USA?". We will keep track of the number of questions used for each person separately. Posts may contain questions concerning more than one person. Example: "Person B: Is this person born before 1800? Person C: Is this person real?".

Consecutive questions and guesses: No guesser shall make more than two consecutive posts containing questions or guesses (or combination thereof). It is not allowed for a single guesser to ask two consecutive questions and then make a guess (without other contestants asking or guessing any intervening questions). A guesser who makes a correct guess is not permitted to make a subsequent guess until another guesser either asks a question or makes a guess. Posts are not permitted to contain multiple guesses.

There will be a one week time limit on this game (to avoid having it drag on if it becomes boring). The QM is permitted to modify the rules as above if necessary to improve the enjoyment of the game.

There is a connection between all 7 targets. I think this should be on the easier side of the multiball rounds (in my opinion).

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Re: 20 Questions Game 488 - Multiball Edition!

#3 Post by Hominidae » Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:29 pm

A,B,C,D,E,F,G: Real dead human?

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#4 Post by damo666 » Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:32 pm

Hominidae wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:29 pm
A,B,C,D,E,F,G: Real dead human?
For those where answer is yes - male?

For those where answer is no - real?

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#5 Post by DreamTrawler » Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:38 pm

Hominidae wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:29 pm
A,B,C,D,E,F,G: Real dead human?
A: Yes
B: No
C: Yes
D: No
E: No
F: No

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#6 Post by DreamTrawler » Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:40 pm

damo666 wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:32 pm
Hominidae wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:29 pm
A,B,C,D,E,F,G: Real dead human?
For those where answer is yes - male?

For those where answer is no - real?
A,C: Yes (male)
E: Yes (real)
B,D,F,G: No (not real)

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#7 Post by Aristocrat » Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:53 pm

A,B,C,D,E,F,G: Born, first introduced, hatched, sprouted, etc. after the birth of Walt Disney?

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#8 Post by damo666 » Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:00 pm

B D F G fictional human

A C first language English

E living human?

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#9 Post by DreamTrawler » Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:02 pm

Aristocrat wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:53 pm
A,B,C,D,E,F,G: Born, first introduced, hatched, sprouted, etc. after the birth of Walt Disney?
A: No
B: No
C: No
D: Yes
E: Yes
F: Yes
G: Yes

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#10 Post by DreamTrawler » Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:04 pm

damo666 wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:00 pm
B D F G fictional human

A C first language English

E living human?
A: No (English not first language)
B: Yes (fictional human)
C: Yes (English first language)
D: Yes (fictional human)
E: Yes (living human)
F: Yes (fictional human)
G: Pass (fictional human)

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#11 Post by Hominidae » Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:42 pm

A
1,2. Real dead male human
3. Born before or during the birth of Walt Disney
4. English not first language

B
1,2,4. Fictional human
3. Introduced before or during the birth of Walt Disney

C
1,2. Real dead male human
3. Born before or during the birth of Walt Disney
4. English first language

D
1,2,4. Fictional human
3. Introduced after the birth of Walt Disney

E
1,2,4. Real living human
3. Born after the birth of Walt Disney

F
1,2,4. Fictional human
3. Introduced after the birth of Walt Disney

G
1,2. Not real
3. Introduced after the birth of Walt Disney
(Passed: fictional human?)

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#12 Post by Aristocrat » Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:44 pm

A,B,C: Born, first introduced, hatched, sprouted, etc. after the birth of Jacob Grimm?
D,E,F,G: Born, first introduced, hatched, sprouted, etc. after the birth of Steve Jobs?

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#13 Post by DreamTrawler » Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:56 pm

Aristocrat wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:44 pm
A,B,C: Born, first introduced, hatched, sprouted, etc. after the birth of Jacob Grimm?
D,E,F,G: Born, first introduced, hatched, sprouted, etc. after the birth of Steve Jobs?
A: No
B: No
C: No

D: Yes
E: Yes
F: Yes
G: Yes

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#14 Post by damo666 » Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:21 pm

A born in Europe?
B first appearance in English language (incl Old/Middle English)?
C born in England?
D F G introduced after 1990?
E born after 1990?

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#15 Post by DreamTrawler » Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:27 pm

damo666 wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:21 pm
A born in Europe?
B first appearance in English language (incl Old/Middle English)?
C born in England?
D F G introduced after 1990?
E born after 1990?
A: No
B: Yes
C: Yes
D: No
E: No
F: Yes
G: Yes

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#16 Post by DreamTrawler » Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:29 pm

Summary:
Person A:
1,2. Real dead male human
3,5. Born before January 4, 1785
4. Not a native speaker of English
6. Not born in Europe

Person B:
1,2,4. Fictional human
3,5. Introduced before January 4, 1785
6. First introduced in English (including Old/Middle English)

Person C:
1,2. Real dead male human
3,5. Born before January 4, 1785
4. Native speaker of English
6. Born in England

Person D:
1,2,4. Fictional human
3,5,6. Introduced after February 24, 1955 and before 1990

Person E:
1,2,4. Real living human
3,5,6. Born after February 24, 1955 and before 1990

Person F:
1,2,4. Fictional human
3,5,6. Introduced after 1990

Person G:
1,2. Not real
3,4,5. Introduced after 1990
Passed - Fictional human?

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#17 Post by damo666 » Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:36 pm

A born in Asia?
B introduced after 1500?
C born after 1500?
D introduced before 1970?
E First language English?
F G Introduced before 2010?

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#18 Post by DreamTrawler » Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:48 pm

damo666 wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:36 pm
A born in Asia?
B introduced after 1500?
C born after 1500?
D introduced before 1970?
E First language English?
F G Introduced before 2010?
A: Pass - and I will also amend my answer to "Born in Europe" to a Pass, refunding that question.
B: No
C: Yes
D: Yes
E: Yes
F: Yes
G: Yes

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#19 Post by han-shahanshah » Thu Mar 06, 2025 12:10 am

A: Follower of an Abrahamic religion?
B: Appears in Chaucer?
C: Died in England?
D: First appeared in book form?
E: Born east of Chicago and west of London?
F: Ever depicted in film?
G: Has a humanoid physical appearance?

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#20 Post by DreamTrawler » Thu Mar 06, 2025 12:14 am

han-shahanshah wrote:
Thu Mar 06, 2025 12:10 am
A: Follower of an Abrahamic religion?
B: Appears in Chaucer?
C: Died in England?
D: First appeared in book form?
E: Born east of Chicago and west of London?
F: Ever depicted in film?
G: Has a humanoid physical appearance?
A: No, to the best of my knowledge
B: No, to the best of my knowledge
C: Yes
D: Yes
E: Yes
F: Yes
G: Yes

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