MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

[Tom Bombadil]

GM Cleanup:

Dargorygel has DIED. He was Daniel Craig, a MAFIA GOON

Thanks to brain for helping out.

[RagingIke297]

Well, given that neither one of them was the hooker this will probably be my last night. Any questions for me?

[snowy801]

I mean I could be entirely reading into nothing, or be totally wrong, or coming to the right conclusions for all the wrong reasons
but in the end what matters what is how that affects my actions

also I suspect tonight (eon) is the ideal time to claim for the doc

[Jamiet99uk]

I mean I could be entirely reading into nothing, or be totally wrong, or coming to the right conclusions for all the wrong reasons
but in the end what matters what is how that affects my actions

also I suspect tonight (eon) is the ideal time to claim for the doc

You still think RagingIke is bluffing?

[RagingIke297]

I mean I could be entirely reading into nothing, or be totally wrong, or coming to the right conclusions for all the wrong reasons
but in the end what matters what is how that affects my actions

also I suspect tonight (eon) is the ideal time to claim for the doc

Little too late for that, had to partial claim D1 and full claim N3

[Jamiet99uk]

Well apparently Snowy thinks you're lying.

[Jamiet99uk]

I must sleep. I'll check in again in about 12 hours to read the three posts that you lemons have posted in that time.

[rdrivera2005]

Jamiet, I also dislike the abusive lurking, but focusing only on this won't help town. We need to get three scum on 4 days, not an easy task.

Ike will die tonight, don't think scum will take the risk to let him alive.

@Ike - I expect you to put some effort to give a decent readlist at EON.

I confess the more I reread the less confidence I have on my reads.

[RagingIke297]

@snowy, what's your strategy this game? Back on page 14 you said

just because you can't comprehend my play doesn't mean I'm not playing my friend

Help me understand your play

[RagingIke297]

18 Pages in and I'm getting townvibes from Jamie and maybe Prado.
Page 24, lol both of our PR's are the lead wagon
Something I'm picking up from D1 and this has been said before, Darg was a strong town read for several people. I wonder what prompted peter to scan him.
Snowy has been scum read since D1. I really can't believe he's still alive.
Thamrick and RDR have been flying generally under the radar.
I'm not done yet, but I need to go to bed. More tomorrow, I'll shirk work to try to get some good reads out

[thamrick]

@DrCJG - I think that’s the likely breakdown based on who is left alive. The only other option is that scum were on Ike and that’s just me and rdr. I know I’m town and I think rdr is the least likely to flip scum of the remaining people (excluding Ike). It’s possible that he’s scum as I’ve been very wrong about him the last two games he was scum, but I’m still trusting my gut that he’s town here.

As for your case on Yav, I don’t know. It’s tough, if not impossible, to interpret Yav the way you interpret most other players. He’s pretty erratic and doesn’t really rely on the same logical steps to arrive at his reads. He mostly uses gut and follows what others are saying.

I get your feelings about Yav. It was how I read him the first game I played with him. I believe this is my 4th game with Yav now. I think he’s probably town.

Can you pinpoint some specific posts from Yav that are leading you to have him as your top scumread?

@yav - you said you’re 110% sure about snowy being scum. Why?

[thamrick]

I know I was townreading darg early. I remember thinking he townslipped talking about mafia being able to talk in the QT during day and that’s probably what shaded my interpretation of him from there on. Rereading him with 20/20 hindsight, he did drop off after D1 but he was off my radar at that point.

Kinda funny that he really did accidentally fake townslip. I guess I’m assuming it was accidental but his explanation seemed sincere.

I was back and forth on bo. I was pretty sure he was scum when he first came in but then when I was scumreading Balki I thought bo seemed pretty townie.

[thamrick]

@Ike - have you been scum before? How likely do you think scum are to scumread their teammates? Do they scumread all of them? Pick a few to bus for towncred?

Same question for anyone else.

[yavuzovic]

@yav - you said you’re 110% sure about snowy being scum. Why?

Mistake. I meant Dargorygel. I said we should lynch dargo now, and voted end. But I accidently wrote Snowy.
Though I also think Snowy is scum too, but not even as certain as half of Dargorygel.

[yavuzovic]

No wait, if I really need to give a percentage of snowy's scumminess, I'd tell you, 60% or 70%. His messages felt scummy to me. I actually don't have a certain idea now. I will also have an exam week and I need to drop out by Monday.
##Call Gm, could you look for a sub. I need to be replaced until Monday if I survive.
##Call Scum, you can rescue GM from looking for a sub if you kill me. Ike is bad bad, not doctor. Kill me instead of him.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Ike - have you been scum before? How likely do you think scum are to scumread their teammates? Do they scumread all of them? Pick a few to bus for towncred?

Same question for anyone else.

When I am scum I'm sometimes inclined to bus a teammate who is a strong or experienced player in the hope they'll be hard to lynch and will survive until mid game where I can get cred for lynching them. I also tend to "pressure vote" the lurkiest scum-mate but only when they are under no pressure. As scum I generally scumread some of my teammates in my reads yeah.

[Jamiet99uk]

Is everyone else getting a "SECURITY certificate" warning every time they visit the site?

[yavuzovic]

Is everyone else getting a "SECURITY certificate" warning every time they visit the site?

Only when I use school's internet.

[RagingIke297]

@Ike - have you been scum before? How likely do you think scum are to scumread their teammates? Do they scumread all of them? Pick a few to bus for towncred?

Same question for anyone else.

I was scum in M32, I not once voted for a teammate, and I only gave my teammates scum leans, nulls or town leans, I didn't give a moderate or full read either way.

[rdrivera2005]

@Ike - have you been scum before? How likely do you think scum are to scumread their teammates? Do they scumread all of them? Pick a few to bus for towncred?

Same question for anyone else.

I have been scum some times and I think bussing depends heavily on circumstances. I never start a game thinking I need to buss scummates. And this is why I think bussing heavily on D1 is unlikely unless it's an obvious lynch.
After D1 you usually have some idea about who is a deep threat, who should be bussed and so on.
But from my experience people just buss when it's inevitable or it's part of a plan.