MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2261 Post by RagingIke297 » Mon May 21, 2018 5:42 pm

Are we just on Bo because he was the first scan? Shouldn't we be looking to see if we think either of these two has a higher chance of being hooker?

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2262 Post by DrCJG » Mon May 21, 2018 5:42 pm

Alright, after a first isolated reread of messages and votes by Chaqa/Bo and Darg (with the assumption that they are both scum) a few things jumped out at me... I am concerned about WIFOM so I would appreciate everyone joining in and providing support or contradictions to my observations.

Voting History
Chaqa/Bo:
  • D1 - Ghug (T);
    D2 - no vote;
    D3 - Pet (t*), Tham (?), TrP (?), Tham (?); Telamor (T);
    • With 18 minutes left until EoD Bo switches from 1 vote TrPrado to 1 vote Thamrick... while Telamor is the leading wagon 6-5 over snowy and snowy is still on Fox's wagon...
      With 1 minute left and Snowy the leading wagon (caused by votes from rdr and yav), Bo switches to Telamor along with Thamrick (and Balki...)
      In retrospect this looks a lot like a save of Snowy... IF Snowy is scum: Thamrick is more likely scum and Yav and Rdr are more likely Town
    D4 - Ezio (?)
    • Would seem pretty risky for scum Bo to keep a vote on scum Ezio in the final minute when he is tied with the leading wagon... though he did post a message indicating he was willing to switch to Balki and then another message indicating he was aware he did not need to in order for Balki to be lynched... so only slightly less likely that Ezio is scum
Dar:
  • D1 - Ezio (?), Bozo (T);
    D2 - Pet (t*), Sno (?);
    • Dar places a vote on Sno early, but there is no record of him returning for EoD when Sno ends up being in a tight race
    D3 - Ezio (?), Telamor (T);
    • Earlish vote gives Telamor the lead over Sno but again no indication he returns for EoD
    D4 - Ezio(?)
    • Earlish vote on Ezio, was present at EoD when Ezio was tied with one minute to go, but Ezio was still on Thamrick and Dar knew he was present at EoD to vote Balki
* - I am assuming Peter is town

I will look closer at their messaging history now, particularly in view of Ezio's observation that Darg may be avoiding directly mentioning his teammates... though at first glance this seems more like confirmation bias on Ezio's part as I think there are several players Darg rarely mentioned and the fact that Darg mentioned Peter, Jamie, Sno, and Ezio a ton is likely due to the fact that they have been wagons and everyone has mentioned them several times.

I will likely be driving at EoD, but at this point I assume there will not be a counterclaim so I don't see any reason I would change my vote.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2263 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon May 21, 2018 6:31 pm

@DrCJG: Yeah I think Snowy was saved EoD 3 and both Bo and Thamrick participated in the save. Darg was already on Telamor.

We have 3.5 hours left until we lynch Bo_Sox. Not showing up because you know you've been caught is totally something Bo would do. He will probably make an inane deadpost and that's all we'll get.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2264 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon May 21, 2018 6:34 pm

RagingIke297 wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 5:42 pm
Are we just on Bo because he was the first scan? Shouldn't we be looking to see if we think either of these two has a higher chance of being hooker?
Do you have a theory which suggests Dargorygel is the more likely Hooker?

I think so many of us are on Bo now and participation is sufficiently low that it's unlikely the lynch will change

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2265 Post by yavuzovic » Mon May 21, 2018 6:42 pm

Let's all vote to Darg and bo dies due to nit posting.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2266 Post by RagingIke297 » Mon May 21, 2018 6:43 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 6:34 pm
RagingIke297 wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 5:42 pm
Are we just on Bo because he was the first scan? Shouldn't we be looking to see if we think either of these two has a higher chance of being hooker?
Do you have a theory which suggests Dargorygel is the more likely Hooker?

I think so many of us are on Bo now and participation is sufficiently low that it's unlikely the lynch will change
I personally do not, but I wondered if anyone did.

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#2267 Post by yavuzovic » Mon May 21, 2018 6:44 pm

yavuzovic wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 6:42 pm
Let's all vote to Darg and bo dies due to nit posting.
*Not posting
##vote dargorygel

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2268 Post by RagingIke297 » Mon May 21, 2018 6:46 pm

yavuzovic wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 6:44 pm
yavuzovic wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 6:42 pm
Let's all vote to Darg and bo dies due to nit posting.
*Not posting
##vote dargorygel
That's not something we should take to the bank at this point

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#2269 Post by yavuzovic » Mon May 21, 2018 6:46 pm

Is my vote counted if I have voted end?

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2270 Post by RagingIke297 » Mon May 21, 2018 7:59 pm

RagingIke297 wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 6:46 pm
yavuzovic wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 6:44 pm
yavuzovic wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 6:42 pm
Let's all vote to Darg and bo dies due to nit posting.
*Not posting
##vote dargorygel
That's not something we should take to the bank at this point
Does Yav have a point here? Should we put a few people on Darg so a few people can switch right at the end if Bo is going to be modkilled?

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#2271 Post by Tom Bombadil » Mon May 21, 2018 8:08 pm

Vote Count 5.2


Bo_sox48 (9): peterlund, Ezio, Jamiet99uk, Foxcastle, TrPrado, rdrivera2005, thamrick, snowy801, DrCJG
Peterlund (1): dargorygel
dargorygel (1): yavuzovic

End votes: Jamiet99uk,thamrick

Yet to vote: bo_sox48, RagingIke297


Bo_sox is set to be lynched.

There are 2 hours left in D5

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#2272 Post by RagingIke297 » Mon May 21, 2018 8:09 pm

Actually I think Snowy is set to be modkilled too, a Darg lynch with Bo and Snowy getting Modkilled would be ideal

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#2273 Post by RagingIke297 » Mon May 21, 2018 8:32 pm

I still need to vote, ##vote Darg

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2274 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon May 21, 2018 9:07 pm

##Call GM

Has Snowy met the posting requirement?

Can you confirm Bo has not?

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#2275 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon May 21, 2018 9:07 pm

Damn quiet EoD...

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2276 Post by peterlund » Mon May 21, 2018 9:09 pm

RagingIke297 wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 8:09 pm
Actually I think Snowy is set to be modkilled too, a Darg lynch with Bo and Snowy getting Modkilled would be ideal
Kind of a scummy request that one. You want it to be even enough so the scum team can set up a tie? And your hesitation to vote in the first place was very scummy too, as well as your plea to your fellow scum team for them come up with a cop CC (since you cannot since you claimed Doc). This is simple as hell. I think you are scum.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2277 Post by Tom Bombadil » Mon May 21, 2018 9:12 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 9:07 pm
##Call GM

Has Snowy met the posting requirement?

Can you confirm Bo has not?
Neither has met the posting requirement, but I have reached out to both players.

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#2278 Post by peterlund » Mon May 21, 2018 9:14 pm

@yav (and Ike) don't give the scum team the possibility to set up a tie.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2279 Post by RagingIke297 » Mon May 21, 2018 9:18 pm

peterlund wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 9:09 pm
RagingIke297 wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 8:09 pm
Actually I think Snowy is set to be modkilled too, a Darg lynch with Bo and Snowy getting Modkilled would be ideal
Kind of a scummy request that one. You want it to be even enough so the scum team can set up a tie? And your hesitation to vote in the first place was very scummy too, as well as your plea to your fellow scum team for them come up with a cop CC (since you cannot since you claimed Doc). This is simple as hell. I think you are scum.
I could see how it could be seen as scummy, but if at the end of the day both un'cc'ed town PR's tell town to vote a certain way and they go against what we say then they need to be lynched. I think that Darg isn't going to move so we only need 3/4 more votes on one to make sure they get lynched. If we don't want to risk Bo coming back and voting to not get modkilled then I'll get on him.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#2280 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon May 21, 2018 9:22 pm

As long as we nail down a Bo or Darg lynch we learn a great deal and hopefully kill a scum.

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