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Re: Comedy of the fishpond: a social experiment (game thread)

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:27 pm
by Pengwinja
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:50 pm
Is this game still happening?
I hope so. I don’t want to have… “bought” 8000 dollars of fishing equipment for nothing.

Re: Comedy of the fishpond: a social experiment (game thread)

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:55 pm
by damo666
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:50 pm
Is this game still happening?
There's not really a lot to discuss until we get a pond update or somebody reports something of interest.

Re: Comedy of the fishpond: a social experiment (game thread)

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:48 pm
by Jamiet99uk
damo666 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:55 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:50 pm
Is this game still happening?
There's not really a lot to discuss until we get a pond update or somebody reports something of interest.
Shouldn't there have been at least one more phase end by now?

I put my order in several days ago.

Re: Comedy of the fishpond: a social experiment (game thread)

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:58 pm
by damo666
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:48 pm
damo666 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:55 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:50 pm
Is this game still happening?
There's not really a lot to discuss until we get a pond update or somebody reports something of interest.
Shouldn't there have been at least one more phase end by now?

I put my order in several days ago.
I dunno.

Re: Tragedy of the Commons: a social experiment (game thread)

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:43 pm
by DiplomacyandWarfare
Everyone, please submit PMs for Round 2.

Re: Tragedy of the Commons: a social experiment (game thread)

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:53 am
by Jamiet99uk
Diplomacy&Warfare wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:43 pm
Everyone, please submit PMs for Round 2.
The tragedy of the commons is a metaphoric label for a concept that is widely discussed in economics, ecology and other sciences. According to the concept, should a number of people enjoy unfettered access to a fishpond, they will tend to fail to enter their orders, the predictable result being a tragedy for all.

Re: Tragedy of the Commons: a social experiment (game thread)

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:55 pm
by damo666
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:53 am
Diplomacy&Warfare wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:43 pm
Everyone, please submit PMs for Round 2.
The tragedy of the commons is a metaphoric label for a concept that is widely discussed in economics, ecology and other sciences. According to the concept, should a number of people enjoy unfettered access to a fishpond, they will tend to fail to enter their orders, the predictable result being a tragedy for all.
Anarchy!

Re: Tragedy of the Commons: a social experiment (game thread)

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:00 pm
by kingofthepirates
perhaps the real tragedy of the commons was the missed opportunities we had along the way :(...

Re: Tragedy of the Commons: a social experiment (game thread)

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:56 am
by damo666
Update required urgently or this will just wither away.....

Re: Tragedy of the Commons: a social experiment (game thread)

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:44 am
by Jamiet99uk
@Darg:
@JustaguynamedWill:

Have you both entered your orders?

Re: Tragedy of the Commons: a social experiment (game thread)

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:45 am
by dargorygel
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:44 am
@Darg:
@JustaguynamedWill:

Have you both entered your orders?
No. I'm not playing. If I were, my orders would be, eat fishsticks.

Re: Tragedy of the Commons: a social experiment (game thread)

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:45 am
by damo666
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:44 am
@Darg:
@JustaguynamedWill:

Have you both entered your orders?
Didn't know darg was playing???

@GM can we make some progress please. If people haven't submitted orders I suggest you interpret as zero fish.

@rest of fishers - if we get no action by say 24h from this post I propose we abandon this pond and migrate.

Re: Tragedy of the Commons: a social experiment (game thread)

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:51 am
by Jamiet99uk
dargorygel wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:45 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:44 am
@Darg:
@JustaguynamedWill:

Have you both entered your orders?
No. I'm not playing. If I were, my orders would be, eat fishsticks.
Oh. You've been posting in this thread so I assumed you were a participant.

Re: Tragedy of the Commons: a social experiment (game thread)

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:58 am
by dargorygel
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:51 am
dargorygel wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:45 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:44 am
@Darg:
@JustaguynamedWill:

Have you both entered your orders?
No. I'm not playing. If I were, my orders would be, eat fishsticks.
Oh. You've been posting in this thread so I assumed you were a participant.
I was evil. I couldn't resist being clever.

Re: Tragedy of the Commons: a social experiment (game thread)

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:25 pm
by Jamiet99uk
damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:45 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:44 am
@Darg:
@JustaguynamedWill:

Have you both entered your orders?
Didn't know darg was playing???

@GM can we make some progress please. If people haven't submitted orders I suggest you interpret as zero fish.

@rest of fishers - if we get no action by say 24h from this post I propose we abandon this pond and migrate.
I concur with Fisherman Damo.

So far this economic simulation is suggesting that the problem of over-utilisation of scare resources is not to be addressed by better management, more efficient methods, or government intervention, but increased laziness.

Re: Tragedy of the Commons: a social experiment (game thread)

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:38 pm
by DiplomacyandWarfare
PHASE CHANGE
It is now Round 3
I have taken damo's advice. Everyone who has not submitted fishing amounts fishes 0 fish.
55 fish remain.
PMs going out now.

Re: Tragedy of the Commons: a social experiment (game thread)

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:00 pm
by damo666
Oo you greedy lot

Re: Tragedy of the Commons: a social experiment (game thread)

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:34 pm
by damo666
Catch was 16-19

I caught two so if there was one zero catch that leaves 14-17 between 4, if Dip was bluffing and thee were no zero catches it's 14-17 between 5. There may not have been illegal fishing but definitely outside quota agreements.

Boo!

Re: Tragedy of the Commons: a social experiment (game thread)

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:48 pm
by kingofthepirates
tut tut tut, I expected better from my fellow fishers... I only took 2, and this is my point; the overfishers can simply continue overfishing, without much overall growth.

Re: Tragedy of the Commons: a social experiment (game thread)

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:42 pm
by damo666
kingofthepirates wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:48 pm
tut tut tut, I expected better from my fellow fishers... I only took 2, and this is my point; the overfishers can simply continue overfishing, without much overall growth.
I'll catch'em if they do it in future.