Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

[ghug]

##CALLGM

Try:
Diplomacy\&Warfare
Diplomacy\&Warfare
Diplomacy%26amp;Warfare
Diplomacy%26Warfare

(Or just leave it, we can deal)

[brainbomb]

but yea, massclaim seems really bad

[sweetandcool]

##CALLGM

Try:
Diplomacy\&Warfare
Diplomacy\&Warfare
Diplomacy%26amp;Warfare
Diplomacy%26Warfare

(Or just leave it, we can deal)

It's worth a try.

Diplomacy\&Warfare has died, he was the Fink Angel, the Roleblocker
Diplomacy\&Warfare has died, he was the Fink Angel, the Roleblocker
Diplomacy%26amp;Warfare has died, he was the Fink Angel, the Roleblocker
Diplomacy%26Warfare has died, he was the Fink Angel, the Roleblocker

[Jamiet99uk]

Diplomacy\&Warfare has died. He was Fink Angel.
Diplomacy\&Warfare is dead. He was Fink Angel.
Diplomacy%26amp;Warfare has died. He was Fink Angel.
Diplomacy%26Warfare is dead. He was Fink Angel.

[Jamiet99uk]

Diplomacy\&Warfare has died. He was Fink Angel.
Diplomacy\&Warfare is dead. He was Fink Angel.
Diplomacy%26amp;Warfare has died. He was Fink Angel.
Diplomacy%26Warfare is dead. He was Fink Angel.

He is some kind of invincible demi-lich, apparently.

[ghug]

I think Peter put though thought into preventing people from breaking the bot with their posts that this might just be impossible.

[Jamiet99uk]

Well, Dip&War is aware that he was voted out, and he knows not to post here, so that will have to suffice for now.

Night ends in 2 hrs 48 minutes.

[Chaqa]

I have emailed Peter to see if he can help. Darg and I also tried to fix this with the manual "Kill Player" command on the bot but it did not work.

Ghug, we may need to learn Erlang.

[foodcoats]

I won’t have time to post again this phase so here are my thoughts. If I die then I die. Good luck.

-Kotp: No idea. This could be a mechanical thing. It could also be maia obfuscation which my reveal interrupted. Maybe someone who wants to bait visits at night. But, I just don’t know.

Dip&War. Glad he got hammered. GG.

-Ghug/Will/DrF.
DrF. -I caught a scum tell with his vote on me earlier in the game.
Will. -It’s always suspicious when people talk about shielding or avoiding scrutiny of new players; especially serious advocacy for it.
Ghug. -Out of this group most likely to be playing with interests not aligned with town. I caught an instance of him hedging D2.

-Balki/Brain
-Brain. It’s always hard to say. Brain is a good player. I can’t offer a substantial read on him at this time.
-Balki. More problematic. His focus on mechanics, plans, and stuff like that is an easy way for scum to hide. A discussion like that allows people to have the appearance of adding to the game without actually adding to the game. He would be a scum lean for me.

-Snowy/Kak
-Kak/Snowy. I saw a comment from snowy about how I was being ‘mean’ to Kak. I completely disagree and again we see a player falling back on ‘feelings’ as a crutch. It’s not being mean to throw a punch in a game such as forum mafia. Each game is its own thing and the game revolves around statements, evidence, facts. When a player doesn’t draw on the body of evidence and instead uses the low post count of a player or how they ‘feel’ then that is problematic. Why? Because the scum have nothing of value to say and they look for crutches like this to blend in or they try to mimic or vote with the tide (like what DrF did during d1). They don’t produce value. When I point out that Kak doesn’t produce anything of value that is not being mean. That is being factual. Talking about removing someone because they don’t post more on D1 or because of something they said and how that makes you feel isn’t forum mafia. IDK what it is. It’s not mean to criticize someone playing in this way because it means they are either really bad or mafia. I actually don’t think Kak is mafia though just based on his reaction to my claim. He was shocked that his theory didn’t hold water and wanted to do anything to make it work. Anyway, I don’t want to poke too much but it’s more of a bad player than a scum tell if that makes sense. And to wrap this up I would have more of a scum lean on Snowy for promoting this ‘feelings/mean’ stuff.

-Chaqa
-I don’t have much to say other than I have a neutral read on him. He told me in the sign up thread that, ‘thanks for volunteering on being the day 1 kill’ or something like that. He kept his word and mostly targeted me so it’s hard to make any kind of read on that. It’s obvious that he dislikes my politics and has mentioned politics multiple times when that has nothing to do with the game and I have never mentioned politics in this game. He is obviously a very small minded and intolerant person. Truly unable to let go of past grievances and anyone who can’t play a fresh game really has no business playing in a forum game. However, I expect him to be around for years to stink up these games.

Others
I didn't give a read on everyone. Others like Worcej are town cleared. So, anyway if I die then gl.

I like this ND guy. He has been sorely misrepresented. Put Chaqa in free speech jail!

[foodcoats]

I have emailed Peter to see if he can help. Darg and I also tried to fix this with the manual "Kill Player" command on the bot but it did not work.

Ghug, we may need to learn Erlang.

When ghug wrote out the word "Erlang" earlier I thought it was either a weird Scandinavian black metal band I'd never heard of, or the language of an imaginary race of beings from a bad 1970s LOTR ripoff series. I cannot fathom how they named a coding language that.

[ghug]

I have emailed Peter to see if he can help. Darg and I also tried to fix this with the manual "Kill Player" command on the bot but it did not work.

Ghug, we may need to learn Erlang.

I mean that's doable as long as it's just little tweaks. Peter's probably going to have to approve a pill request at the very least, though

[brainbomb]

If I am cop I am visiting Pirate

[ghug]

If I am cop I am visiting Pirate

That's a choice

[brainbomb]

If I am cop I am visiting Pirate

That's a choice

YARRR

[foodcoats]

If I am a cop I am visiting damo666.

[kingofthepirates]

Regarding dip’s refusal to die (man literally too angry to die meme here): A pact made with death, a gamble taken too far, perhaps? But one must applause his survivability…
Back to the game…
Firstly, my night business: I’m unclear as to how much longer I can be active this phase after now. I got another class, clubs, and a doctors appointment all lined up in a nice, neat, slightly pain filled line. In light of this, I will be investigating brain. Why: because I feel like it. And it’ll give information one way or another, particularly since I feel like brain is one of the people we don’t have much info on. Have fun y’all! And if I die, I hope Jamie has a fun story to send me out…

Other thoughts: ND makes good points, I don’t particularly object to any of them. Suspicion of me can be justified, though it is misplaced. I am doing my best to act in towns interest, and towns interest alone. Will/DrF does make sense. I think those two are def on the same team (which team is unknown to me) and Will is using the fact I am also new to protect DrF, and possibly swing me to his side as well, perhaps only to stab at the end? Sorry for the ramble, but this could be my final actual message of substance, not just for tonight, but maybe the whole game.

Side note: I dunno if it’s just me, but ND feels a bit grumpy (not just today either, d2 as well). Not an accusation or anything bad, but just some vibes. I’d like to ask others (particularly ND) if this is normal? Quite a shock after d1 uwu speak.

In the words of the former governor of California, HASTA LA VISTA, BABY!

[worcej]

I like being town cleared so that you all understand lurking me isn't scum me.

[worcej]

If I was a cop, I'd scan Balki so that everyone could decide if he should be a talkie or a walkie.

[ghug]

Regarding dip’s refusal to die (man literally too angry to die meme here): A pact made with death, a gamble taken too far, perhaps? But one must applause his survivability…
Back to the game…
Firstly, my night business: I’m unclear as to how much longer I can be active this phase after now. I got another class, clubs, and a doctors appointment all lined up in a nice, neat, slightly pain filled line. In light of this, I will be investigating brain. Why: because I feel like it. And it’ll give information one way or another, particularly since I feel like brain is one of the people we don’t have much info on. Have fun y’all! And if I die, I hope Jamie has a fun story to send me out…

Other thoughts: ND makes good points, I don’t particularly object to any of them. Suspicion of me can be justified, though it is misplaced. I am doing my best to act in towns interest, and towns interest alone. Will/DrF does make sense. I think those two are def on the same team (which team is unknown to me) and Will is using the fact I am also new to protect DrF, and possibly swing me to his side as well, perhaps only to stab at the end? Sorry for the ramble, but this could be my final actual message of substance, not just for tonight, but maybe the whole game.

Side note: I dunno if it’s just me, but ND feels a bit grumpy (not just today either, d2 as well). Not an accusation or anything bad, but just some vibes. I’d like to ask others (particularly ND) if this is normal? Quite a shock after d1 uwu speak.

In the words of the former governor of California, HASTA LA VISTA, BABY!

Point of order: outed cops shouldn't announce their targets at night unless they can do it at the last possible second, because the scum then have the ability to plan around it.

The uwu thing was a bit. This is the real ND.

[Kakarroto]

hey man cool fake reads. I like how you have rdrivera in there who is heavily scumreading me and theres like zero thoughts about why he would be my scum buddy there

I don’t know if you know this but your maf team isn’t the only maf team XD

that brain post pinged me with that conclusion (in red). I didn't want to take any reactions away from will, but seeing he did, I must say, I find it quite sus from brain to go to that conclusion. It heavily questions my town read from him here, because I think that town brain would not think that way. I mean, sure, I could be wrong, but man, that doesn't look good. Like, the very first thing that came into my mind was 'oh he probably thinks they are on different teams', as will said later. I find it very hard to believe that brain would overlook such a simple conclusion

He thinks rivera is scum
Rivera was roleblocked
Likely not an angel

He thinks I am also scum
I pushed, cased and successfully killed dip (even if the bot doesnt think so)
Also not an Angel

Rdrivera thinks I am scum

So wills scumread means he thinks im
Teamed with rivera as there is no other explanation

you are jumping to conclusions where it's not correct, because he could read you both as mafia with just disregarding that logic. Also, it it not 100%, as you said yourself 'likely'. And there is always the possibility of people just bussing. Heck, it could be just a lie about the rb.

Why are you thinking that RD was 100% rb'ed?