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Diplomacy&Warfare wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 21, 2024 1:04 am

Fair enough.
Died before 1900?

No

The House of Lords is part of Parliament.

Of course it is. But its members are not called "Members of the UK Parliament" and that is what the question was. Its members are called "Peers."

This question was missed.

Question: Member of the House of Lords?

Conditional Question: If so, member of Cabinet?

cdngooner wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 21, 2024 1:35 am

This question was missed.

Question: Member of the House of Lords?

Conditional Question: If so, member of Cabinet?

No, not a member of the House of Lords or the UK Parliament (as far as I or Wikipedia or google know)

1. Dead white real human male
2, 6, 8, 11-12, 15. Born 1851-1874, south of the 52nd parallel north, but north of the 38th parallel north. Born in England
9. 16. Died 1900-1964
3. First language English
4. British or Irish
5,7, 10, 13-14. Politician, but not a member of UK Parliament. Not Lord Mayor of London or a member of the House of Lords. Not famous for acting, singing, or movie/musical directing.

Is politics one of his top sources of fame (using wikipedia as an example, politican or something of the like would be listed at the top, with the rest of the job related descriptors)?

Hopefully yes, otherwise we may have been looking in the wrong direction altogether...

kingofthepirates wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:05 am

Is politics one of his top sources of fame (using wikipedia as an example, politican or something of the like would be listed at the top, with the rest of the job related descriptors)?

Hopefully yes, otherwise we may have been looking in the wrong direction altogether...

Using the example you cited, yes.

Born in London, Leeds, Leicester, or Liverpool?

cdngooner wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 21, 2024 1:32 am

The House of Lords is part of Parliament.

Of course it is. But its members are not called "Members of the UK Parliament" and that is what the question was. Its members are called "Peers."

Well that was not what I meant when I asked the question, but I'm glad we got it cleared up.

Wattsthematter wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:26 am

Born in London, Leeds, Leicester, or Liverpool?

Only London is possible, given the latitude restriction.

Did this person hold political office in a country other than the UK?

Hominidae wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:27 am

Wattsthematter wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:26 am

Born in London, Leeds, Leicester, or Liverpool?

Only London is possible, given the latitude restriction.

Scratch this. Thanks Hom

Wattsthematter wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:32 am

Hominidae wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:27 am

Wattsthematter wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:26 am

Born in London, Leeds, Leicester, or Liverpool?

Only London is possible, given the latitude restriction.

Scratch this. Thanks Hom

"Was he born in London?" would still be a perfectly good question though.

Hominidae wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:30 am

Did this person hold political office in a country other than the UK?

To clarify this, I mean somewhere other than England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland (and Ireland, when it was part of the UK).

Hominidae wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:41 am

Hominidae wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:30 am

Did this person hold political office in a country other than the UK?

To clarify this, I mean somewhere other than England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland (and Ireland, when it was part of the UK).

Yes. And the original technically would have had a different answer.

Free guess: Billy Hughes

Hominidae wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:51 am

Free guess: Billy Hughes

It is not him

(To be clear regarding my prior statement, I viewed the word “country” as dropping out between the original and the clarification, but I’ll be the first to admit that the definition of the word “country” tends to be somewhat flexible, particularly in this era).

I will offer a clue after the next guess or question so everyone has a shot at it, since Hom is currently limited by the 2 question rule.

Free guess: William Hall-Jones

Australia and New Zealand were both clearly "countries". It is an open question whether they were "states" before the 1931 Statute of Westminster, but if our subject is from any of the Dominions (all of which were countries), I will feel sorely misled.

cdngooner wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:21 am

Australia and New Zealand were both clearly "countries". It is an open question whether they were "states" before the 1931 Statute of Westminster, but if our subject is from any of the Dominions (all of which were countries), I will feel sorely misled.

So could be a State/Province/Territory/Protectorate governor or similar? I'm kind of at a loss where to look now which is a shame after a promising start.