20 Questions - Game 226

[Aristocrat]

If he isn't NOBILITY, or a ROYAL, then perhaps, knighthood? Not a question btw just something I thought of for us to maybe think about.

He could be a noble, just not his primary occupation.

Based on the prior hints QM has given it's either famous for politics/government, but not a politician, or famous for military exploits, but not a high-ranking officer. It could be a civil servant, a jurist, someone who did something famous in one of the wars, etc. - very large number of possibilities. Since Hugh Grosvenor was "warmer," I'd lean towards the government route.

[cdngooner]

Warmer!

[Wattsthematter]

I had Henry Allingham in mind, but he doesn't fit the broad arts categories mentioned before. It now seems like we have that and strong political/wartime connection. The age of death and first name having an E really help narrow down at this point.

[Wattsthematter]

My first guess: George William Alexander?

[cdngooner]

My first guess: George William Alexander?

No. Colder than the Duke of Westminster.

1. Not Edmund Knowles Muspratt.
2. Not Hugh Grovesnor, 1st Duke of Westminster - warmer.
3. George William Alexander - colder.

[Wattsthematter]

My first guess: George William Alexander?

No. Colder than the Duke of Westminster.

1. Not Edmund Knowles Muspratt.
2. Not Hugh Grovesnor, 1st Duke of Westminster - warmer.
3. George William Alexander - colder.

Shucks

[cdngooner]

Also Alexander was born 1802 and died 1890. Our man was born 1821-1899 and lived more than 82 years (so died no earlier than 1903).

[Wattsthematter]

Also Alexander was born 1802 and died 1890. Our man was born 1821-1899 and lived more than 82 years (so died no earlier than 1903).

I didn’t see that we had narrowed down from 1822 and not the whole century. Also I believe the person had to have died older than 82 years old? I’m not sure what you mean

[Wattsthematter]

At any rate, I apologize for wasting a guess

[cdngooner]

Also I believe the person had to have died older than 82 years old?

Correct.

Two more guesses.

[Aristocrat]

Small clarification on a clue you gave (I suppose no obligation to clarify free clues, but going to ask regardless): you said "I'll give you a small hint. Its writing that he is sort of known for. But he is not an author."

Was that supposed to mean "not primarily/famous as an author" or not an author, period?

[Hominidae]

Well, what other ways can one be famous for writing? Maybe someone who famously handwrote something? Maybe a diarist?

[Aristocrat]

Well, what other ways can one be famous for writing? Maybe someone who famously handwrote something? Maybe a diarist?

Judges write, but the most famous judge I can find that fits the answers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Denning,_Baron_Denning) also wrote some books after he retired, so he is an author if not primarily one.

Civil servants could also write rules or regulations and policy documents and the such, but most of the non-obscure ones I've found don't fit one or more of the criteria.

I also considered someone who has a business and their signature is famous, maybe, as part of the branding.

[cdngooner]

Was that supposed to mean "not primarily/famous as an author" or not an author, period?

I meant, he is not famous as an author, would not call himself an author, you would not introduce him as an author. But he wrote as part of his job.

[cdngooner]

Judges write, but the most famous judge I can find that fits the answers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Denning,_Baron_Denning) also wrote some books after he retired, so he is an author if not primarily one.

Ah hell, I'm just going to give it to Aristocrat. The only reason he didn't guess Lord Denning was pending a clarification from me. Yes, it was Alfred "Tom" Denning, Lord Denning, the most famous judge in the UK and most of the common law world.

The questions and answers I expected were: Government? Yes. Politician? No. Hmm, what kind of government official is not a politician, yet famous enough to warrant being a subject. And who writes as part of his job? I expected the "E" might throw people off as he is universally known as Tom Denning (even on his Wikipedia page). didn't think it would become as hard as it did.

Well done! I would expect nothing less of an Aristocrat to guess a Lord.

[Hominidae]

OK, good work to QM and Aristocrat. I was about to say, "Well, you should probably guess Lord Denning then."

[Hominidae]

Baron Denning, sorry.

[Aristocrat]

Wow. I probably would have gone ahead and guessed once I saw the clarification, but I'll take the gimme as well. Interesting person and surprised we pulled it out in time. Thanks CDN! New game will be up in a minute.