Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

[worcej]

Anyone else think it's crazy that his rent is only $1015?

[sweetandcool]

Why would you town clear Frogsterking?

Food and Chaqa were roleblocked.

No town player targeted Food, so Food was roleblocked by Mafia.

Consequently, Chaqa was roleblocked by town, the CURFEW ENFORCER.

Frog was the only player to claim targeting Chaqa. Consequently, Frog is the CURFEW ENFORCER.

Diplomacy&Warfare's report confirms Bob targeted foodcoats, how do you know he is not the Curfew Enforcer? It seems you have too much information.

I mentioned that caveat in one of my solving posts. Bob has refrained from claiming anything, so I can't do anything about that
He is free to start a CC if he wants, it hardly changes that Town will win.

If Bob reports back "success" then the only change is that either Frog or Bob is Curfew Enforcer, which we can easily resolve for the win.

[sweetandcool]

Anyone else think it's crazy that his rent is only $1015?

That's after they raised it $100.

We are incredibly lucky, though our place is pretty dumpy.

[worcej]

Also, though it probably isn't my place to actually say this, but our concession votes have been submitted.

I'm looking at the game from a point of view where the scum team is Bob + bozo + jamiet and 2 unknowns. At one point in time kakarotto deduced that two of woc/hamilton//BK3K are scum. Now that we have confirmation or near-confirmation BK3K is lobbyist, are woc and hamilton the final two scum slots? Is Bob + bozo + jamiet + hamilton + woc a team solve?

Frog is good btw.

[worcej]

I don't want you all to waste more time solving the game expertly than you already have lol...

[damo666]

Also, though it probably isn't my place to actually say this, but our concession votes have been submitted.

I'm looking at the game from a point of view where the scum team is Bob + bozo + jamiet and 2 unknowns. At one point in time kakarotto deduced that two of woc/hamilton//BK3K are scum. Now that we have confirmation or near-confirmation BK3K is lobbyist, are woc and hamilton the final two scum slots? Is Bob + bozo + jamiet + hamilton + woc a team solve?

Frog is good btw.

What's this mean?

[sweetandcool]

I don't want you all to waste more time solving the game expertly than you already have lol...

I wasted half my day XD

[TheMadMonarch]

Perhaps they felt guilty, perhaps they feared black lash. Whatever the reason, the landlords have stopped their eviction plans, and admitted what they did. A new contract is written, where everyone gets a share. A fairer world for all.

GAME HAS ENDED

[worcej]

Also, though it probably isn't my place to actually say this, but our concession votes have been submitted.

I'm looking at the game from a point of view where the scum team is Bob + bozo + jamiet and 2 unknowns. At one point in time kakarotto deduced that two of woc/hamilton//BK3K are scum. Now that we have confirmation or near-confirmation BK3K is lobbyist, are woc and hamilton the final two scum slots? Is Bob + bozo + jamiet + hamilton + woc a team solve?

Frog is good btw.

What's this mean?

It means we, the scum team, have voted unanimously to concede.

Let's now talk about either DnD or how the setup could be re-tooled and re-ran so that it isn't a mechanics only game where the scum don't get blown out by a mass claim.

[sweetandcool]

My condolences to the scum team.

[TheMadMonarch]

I’m on my phone at work right now, so I can’t do a ton of talking. There will be GT invites later, which will include all the roles and such.


Thank you all very much for playing, even considering what’s happened. I hope that we can fix this up and may try again. Not for a while though…

[sweetandcool]

Also, though it probably isn't my place to actually say this, but our concession votes have been submitted.

Frog is good btw.

What's this mean?

It means we, the scum team, have voted unanimously to concede.

Let's now talk about either DnD or how the setup could be re-tooled and re-ran so that it isn't a mechanics only game where the scum don't get blown out by a mass claim.

I think there were some great suggestions earlier N1 when we were complaining about it.

Also, I really liked the setup you ran my first game, M79 I think?

Is that called a semi-open setup?

Mass claims definitely don't work there.

[worcej]

My condolences to the scum team.

My comments about the Serenity/Firefly game was 100% my current feelings. After N1 processed, I saw that this game was completely over and we were boned. We needed 4 miskills and had 3 of us effectively dead with HB and myself in a bucket of one other town player.

My thoughts to fix the setup are there need to be extra roles added to make it so that you cannot know for sure who reports what and give avenues for the scum team to actually lie. Or change the rule that you get no confirmation of action success and just confirmation of receiving the order.

[BK3K]

have not been all day. is there a system or is it free for all?

[BK3K]

Perhaps they felt guilty, perhaps they feared black lash. Whatever the reason, the landlords have stopped their eviction plans, and admitted what they did. A new contract is written, where everyone gets a share. A fairer world for all.

GAME HAS ENDED

oh nevermind

[worcej]

I’m on my phone at work right now, so I can’t do a ton of talking. There will be GT invites later, which will include all the roles and such.


Thank you all very much for playing, even considering what’s happened. I hope that we can fix this up and may try again. Not for a while though…

As I said numerous times in the GT/Scum chat, mass claim breaks happen and they are hard to predict. I think this setup is awesome and just needs to be tweaked to be able to be ran and avoid a mass-claim.

[sweetandcool]

I’m on my phone at work right now, so I can’t do a ton of talking. There will be GT invites later, which will include all the roles and such.


Thank you all very much for playing, even considering what’s happened. I hope that we can fix this up and may try again. Not for a while though…

As I said numerous times in the GT/Scum chat, mass claim breaks happen and they are hard to predict. I think this setup is awesome and just needs to be tweaked to be able to be ran and avoid a mass-claim.

Agreed, I think this setup has potential. It just needs some more anti-massclaim features baked in.

[Hamilton Brian]

Well, that's that.

[worcej]

What's this mean?

It means we, the scum team, have voted unanimously to concede.

Let's now talk about either DnD or how the setup could be re-tooled and re-ran so that it isn't a mechanics only game where the scum don't get blown out by a mass claim.

I think there were some great suggestions earlier N1 when we were complaining about it.

Also, I really liked the setup you ran my first game, M79 I think?

Is that called a semi-open setup?

Mass claims definitely don't work there.

Semi-opens definitely make it fixed for sure.

I had to remember what game that was and looked it up, then saw the date and remembered why I had to bail out lol...

[sweetandcool]

Picture of my workspace. Hopefully it helps you all to understand my methodology :D

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I love that I'm between chili and curry. A reference none of you will understand but I still find it amusing.

Coincidentally, I made chili yesterday. Today we are ordering pizza. In honour of you, I shall make fish curry tomorrow.