Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

[Kakarroto]

thank you for already putting that tin

It looks to me like they're trying to get you killed lol

yeah I think I'm done here, can't save myself

please put in an action anyway, maybe mafia doesn't nk you (see my post about investigation power ... waaay some pages before now) and you can get your action off. And if you wonder who you should target then, I suggest either D&K as middle manager or some other confirmed investigation role. (But what do I know what's best. Best to follow your heart.)

[Kakarroto]

so let me get this straight

Hamilton Brian, Jaime, sweet, and Bob unless he CCs are caught mafia

and there's 1 between Brain and Bozo?

Sweet is not caught.

It's HamB Jamie Bob plus

one of Bozo/sweet

plus one of baby/brain/worcej/Kak*

* doubt that though

if kak is mafia i'd be shocked

as much as I was shocked when food flipped town?

[lfischl]

Sweet is not caught.

It's HamB Jamie Bob plus

one of Bozo/sweet

plus one of baby/brain/worcej/Kak*

* doubt that though

if kak is mafia i'd be shocked

as much as I was shocked when food flipped town?

I mean you basically solved the game for town

[Kakarroto]

Out of curiosity, can someone explain to me how Hamilton Brian was caught mechanically?

What vacant town role gives him a success report targeting me?

there is a chance of town lying to masking a result. If so, I'd expect a claim at EoN. But personally I doubt it. It is however a valid possibility.

[Kakarroto]

Also out of curiosity, why did you not post anything damo?

On D1

I rarely post much day 1 (vets can confrm) and I was irlbusy.

you should post more though. That would help us all get a read of you. Just saying. Would be quite pro town.

[sweetandcool]

So either Chaqa was roleblocked by Mafia, Frog is Curfew Enforcer, or both.

Both is technically possible if Fisch lied about their result.

[sweetandcool]

On D1

I rarely post much day 1 (vets can confrm) and I was irlbusy.

you should post more though. That would help us all get a read of you. Just saying. Would be quite pro town.

I disagree. D1 is a crapshoot and I don't mind relying mostly on VCA for reading damo or others.

[sweetandcool]

So either Chaqa was roleblocked by Mafia, Frog is Curfew Enforcer, or both.

Both is technically possible if Fisch lied about their result.

In the case that Chaqa was role blocked by Mafia and NOT Frog, it is possible the real CE roleblocked Mafia.

[Kakarroto]

if kak is mafia i'd be shocked

as much as I was shocked when food flipped town?

I mean you basically solved the game for town

I'm not so sure about that right now. I mean yeah, I put in a lot of work, but I definitely caused (or at least was a major part) in foods demise. I believed Jamie over food, and I misread food. I mean the points I made about his behaviour should still be true, but I accredited that towards mafia and didn't believe a town could be so zealously blind following.

Not sure how many more mistakes I caused that will influence town into the wrong direction.

[Kakarroto]

So either Chaqa was roleblocked by Mafia, Frog is Curfew Enforcer, or both.

Both is technically possible if Fisch lied about their result.

food reported a failure. So he was definitely blocked.

[sweetandcool]

So either Chaqa was roleblocked by Mafia, Frog is Curfew Enforcer, or both.

Both is technically possible if Fisch lied about their result.

food reported a failure. So he was definitely blocked.

Food targeted bunny who was the NK. That would return a failure.

[Kakarroto]

I rarely post much day 1 (vets can confrm) and I was irlbusy.

you should post more though. That would help us all get a read of you. Just saying. Would be quite pro town.

I disagree. D1 is a crapshoot and I don't mind relying mostly on VCA for reading damo or others.

please read the 13 pages mafia game. I think that would change your mind.

[Kakarroto]

So either Chaqa was roleblocked by Mafia, Frog is Curfew Enforcer, or both.

Both is technically possible if Fisch lied about their result.

In the case that Chaqa was role blocked by Mafia and NOT Frog, it is possible the real CE roleblocked Mafia.

food reported a failure

[Kakarroto]

So either Chaqa was roleblocked by Mafia, Frog is Curfew Enforcer, or both.

Both is technically possible if Fisch lied about their result.

food reported a failure. So he was definitely blocked.

Food targeted bunny who was the NK. That would return a failure.

NOPE

This is the order of operations:
1 Human Resources
2 Curfew enforcer
3 Sicko
4 Doctor
5 Detective
6 Electoral Commission Officer
7 Internal Affairs
8 Private Investigator
9 Middle Manager
10 Corrupt Cop
11 Police Commissioner
12 Ruber Driver
13 Pollster
14 DaDa Driver
15 Mafia NK
16 Gerrymander-er
17 Lobbyist
18 Door-Darter
19 Paper Delivery Boy
20 News Host
21 E-Mail Hacker
22 Mail Man

[sweetandcool]

you should post more though. That would help us all get a read of you. Just saying. Would be quite pro town.

I disagree. D1 is a crapshoot and I don't mind relying mostly on VCA for reading damo or others.

please read the 13 pages mafia game. I think that would change your mind.

I'm not advocating that nobody care about posting. I specifically post D1 because I know not posting kind of spoils the game and is a bit unfair for others to read me.

But some players just operate in a niche where they just can't do that. I can accept that damo is one of these players.

[Kakarroto]

I disagree. D1 is a crapshoot and I don't mind relying mostly on VCA for reading damo or others.

please read the 13 pages mafia game. I think that would change your mind.

I'm not advocating that nobody care about posting. I specifically post D1 because I know not posting kind of spoils the game and is a bit unfair for others to read me.

But some players just operate in a niche where they just can't do that. I can accept that damo is one of these players.

I can accept it too. Doesn't change that if he would post more, it would be pro town.

[sweetandcool]

food reported a failure. So he was definitely blocked.

Food targeted bunny who was the NK. That would return a failure.

NOPE

This is the order of operations:
1 Human Resources
2 Curfew enforcer
3 Sicko
4 Doctor
5 Detective
6 Electoral Commission Officer
7 Internal Affairs
8 Private Investigator
9 Middle Manager
10 Corrupt Cop
11 Police Commissioner
12 Ruber Driver
13 Pollster
14 DaDa Driver
15 Mafia NK
16 Gerrymander-er
17 Lobbyist
18 Door-Darter
19 Paper Delivery Boy
20 News Host
21 E-Mail Hacker
22 Mail Man

Wow, thanks! I was just reading that list and missed the NK.

Okay, so food was RB. Either by Bob as CE or by Mafia.

Which means Chaqa was role blocked by either Frog as CE or by Mafia.

Then Fisch is lying?

I guess I need to call GM.

[sweetandcool]

##CALL GM

If the Door Darter or the Paper Boy gets roleblocked, would they return "undelivered" or "failure"?

[Kakarroto]

Food targeted bunny who was the NK. That would return a failure.

NOPE

This is the order of operations:
1 Human Resources
2 Curfew enforcer
3 Sicko
4 Doctor
5 Detective
6 Electoral Commission Officer
7 Internal Affairs
8 Private Investigator
9 Middle Manager
10 Corrupt Cop
11 Police Commissioner
12 Ruber Driver
13 Pollster
14 DaDa Driver
15 Mafia NK
16 Gerrymander-er
17 Lobbyist
18 Door-Darter
19 Paper Delivery Boy
20 News Host
21 E-Mail Hacker
22 Mail Man

Wow, thanks! I was just reading that list and missed the NK.

Okay, so food was RB. Either by Bob as CE or by Mafia.

Which means Chaqa was role blocked by either Frog as CE or by Mafia.

Then Fisch is lying?

I guess I need to call GM.

there is another possibility that lfischl says the full truth as town. There is also the possibility that lfischl lies as town. Why would you need to call gm here?

[brainbomb]

I will just say I do not know who I trust between sweet or bozo.

Sweet is saying very little about me at all

bozo is claiming im mechanically outed as scum and that worcej proves I cant be the mailman.

I fully expect that I will be roleblocked to prevent my ability to verify my role, ESPECIALLY if babyspice is actually mafia. Because if I visited someone and return a result, as polster, then babyspice would also be outted as mafia.

If I were to return a result of anything other than failure, mafia would have a hard time getting me killed.

So based on this logic, all of bozo's plan requires me to get roleblocked so I am never able to prove his allegations wrong