Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

[heartthrob24909]

Hi all, catching up from 8.

[heartthrob24909]

Nepthys I'm pretty sold on as town

Frogster, I'm curious - do you find that your early reads tend to evolve over time?

[Jamiet99uk]

@Kak

I just thought of a joke during my morning walk:

What do you call an Austrian dog?

Wasn't Jamie the one filling the thread up with garbage, sweet?

This joke is important because I just came up with it all by myself.

Okay Sweet:

What DO you call an Austrian dog?

[heartthrob24909]

This may be helpful for us to work who we are eventually

Scan returns
Success/Failure
- Doctor
- Curfew Enforcer
- HR
- Lobbyist
- ANYONE if RB etc

Town/Mafia
- Detective
- Internal affairs (Town only)
- ECO

Role
- PI

Delivered/Undelivered
- PDB
- Door darter

Targets target
- Ruber Driver
- Middle manager

Specific person
- Pollster

Anything
- Mail man

Pointing out that this list appears to only include town roles. Also, I'd argue that there isn't really a distinction between "targets target" and "specific person" since I think in both cases you just get a name back. My list is a little different from yours in at least one place but I'll hold off from posting it if people are gonna frown at a mechanics discussion this early

I would like to see the list you are referring to.

Notes: I included mafia and town in my list. They are sorted by return type assuming no interference. Mafia is in red. Have to duck out again now (sorry) but will be around again later this phase

[Any]
- Email hacker
- Mail man

Alignment
- Police commish
- Detective
- Internal affairs
- Electoral C.O.

Delivered/undelivered
- paper delivery boy
- door darter

Player name
- dada driver
- ruber driver
- polster

Role
- corrupt cop
- private investigator
- middle manager

Success/failure
- Sicko
- doctor
- curfew enforcer
- human resources
- news host
- lobbyist

[Frogsterking]

I think worcej is town

I don't like ignoring people, but I didn't want to answer his question. So I threw in my most salient thoughts at that moment, just to sweeten my response.

Okay this slot might be +town

Is there a difference between town and +town?

No

[Frogsterking]

Nepthys I'm pretty sold on as town

Frogster, I'm curious - do you find that your early reads tend to evolve over time?

I'd say so, yeah? What is the point of this question?

[Frogsterking]

lfischl posts at first study are detailed and surprising coming from him. I know what he does as both alignments and when he is mafia he tries just a bit harder and then becomes a wallflower as the game goes on. he has a path to win as mafia and its usually just laying low - but the only way he can do that is if he gets into your head early that hes just town so you forget him and move on

Is he usually this polite and appeasey?

[heartthrob24909]

Nepthys I'm pretty sold on as town

Frogster, I'm curious - do you find that your early reads tend to evolve over time?

I'd say so, yeah? What is the point of this question?

Thanks.

You volunteer reads a lot earlier and a lot more frequently than I tend to in my own gameplay. So, the point of my question was for me to better understand where you're coming from as a player when you make them, so that I can try to interpret you in a way that's consistent with your intentions.

[heartthrob24909]

Alright, well, didn't really get too far unfortunately but I do have to dip again. Will be catching up from mid-16 when I return.

[sweetandcool]

Wasn't Jamie the one filling the thread up with garbage, sweet?

This joke is important because I just came up with it all by myself.

Okay Sweet:

What DO you call an Austrian dog?

A wienerdog.

[Frogsterking]

I'm not sure if I said this yet: Foodoats you can go please go ahead and post a full reads list with explanations sometime over the next few hours.

[lfischl]

Pointing out that this list appears to only include town roles. Also, I'd argue that there isn't really a distinction between "targets target" and "specific person" since I think in both cases you just get a name back. My list is a little different from yours in at least one place but I'll hold off from posting it if people are gonna frown at a mechanics discussion this early

I would like to see the list you are referring to.

Notes: I included mafia and town in my list. They are sorted by return type assuming no interference. Mafia is in red. Have to duck out again now (sorry) but will be around again later this phase

[Any]
- Email hacker
- Mail man

Alignment
- Police commish
- Detective
- Internal affairs
- Electoral C.O.

Delivered/undelivered
- paper delivery boy
- door darter

Player name
- dada driver
- ruber driver
- polster

Role
- corrupt cop
- private investigator
- middle manager

Success/failure
- Sicko
- doctor
- curfew enforcer
- human resources
- news host
- lobbyist

hey all catching up rn, but while I'm here does the pollster reveal a players target?

[Frogsterking]

In browsing earlier games this past week I realized I tended to scumread lfischl and usually end up being wrong. I think it was low-posting that got me into that thought-cycle. I'll try to not go that way this game.

How does it compare to here? I've heard two completely different narratives now about their meta.

PEdit: speak o the devil

[Frogsterking]

Ifishi do you have any response to brain and bomb's opposite meta reads on you?

[lfischl]

Ifishi do you have any response to brain and bomb's opposite meta reads on you?

brain and who?

[Frogsterking]

Ifishi do you have any response to brain and bomb's opposite meta reads on you?

brain and who?

Bob*

I had Bob-omb on the mind

[lfischl]

Ifishi do you have any response to brain and bomb's opposite meta reads on you?

brain and who?

Bob*

I had Bob-omb on the mind

it's good lol, for the reads I don't really understand why bob voted me right before he said he went to sleep. I looked through his posts and didn't really see a ton to lead him to that vote. For brain, I don't really like the jaime interaction with him, I'm decently worried that he's trying to buddy me here(I think that's the term).

[brainbomb]

I do not townread Lfischl and did not claim that I did. Therefore there is no such explanation for me to post. I am not trying to defend Lfischl. I was asking you a fairly basic question about why you scumread him, so that we could discuss your case, to help me decide whether I ought to vote him with you. That's not the same as saying I think he's locktown or something. I asked a really quite simple question. This is how I play the game. I think that is normal.

You are not thinking clearly. I'm going to suggest you take a time-out as you seem to be getting upset. I don't want to upset you and I'm sorry if I have done, it was not my intention, Brain.

I'm going to take a few hours away from the game too, in the hope that helps calm things down.

if hes trying to buddy you by seeking a reason to murder you then sure… thats one way to buddy someone

[Frogsterking]

if you don't mind me asking, how experienced with mafia are you?

I can't tell if you're asking me about my scum range or how experienced I am with the game in general. My scum range isn't impressive, I don't like lying to people, I'm good at cop hunting though. I played live chat mafia a lot, maybe like a thousand hours or so, way too much and mostly in high school. I've played a bunch of forum mafia games too but not to the same magnitude as live chat.
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hmm, mhm, interesting.

do you personally prefer playing town or mafia (as a faction)? What would you say is your greatest maf-read for others?

I prefer playing town. My biggest scum tell is freezing up and ghosting the thread.

[lfischl]

I do not townread Lfischl and did not claim that I did. Therefore there is no such explanation for me to post. I am not trying to defend Lfischl. I was asking you a fairly basic question about why you scumread him, so that we could discuss your case, to help me decide whether I ought to vote him with you. That's not the same as saying I think he's locktown or something. I asked a really quite simple question. This is how I play the game. I think that is normal.

You are not thinking clearly. I'm going to suggest you take a time-out as you seem to be getting upset. I don't want to upset you and I'm sorry if I have done, it was not my intention, Brain.

I'm going to take a few hours away from the game too, in the hope that helps calm things down.

if hes trying to buddy you by seeking a reason to murder you then sure… thats one way to buddy someone

oh shoot i see that post. No clue how tbh