MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

[worcej]

anyone who seriously thinks that not voting for your top scumread is optimal townplay is simply delusional. no rational person can possibly argue for voting anyone other than a top scumread

The problem is that you weren't top scumread before this Jamiet thing and there is a chance he hadn't seen you (if you are town you know this). So why use a DK on you? Let scum kill you or if they let you alive and you are town it's even better as we got a clear on the last days. Can't you see this?

This is another way.

[worcej]

I think we should make one a runaway wagon. There is a danger Tem amd heart are both scum and could manipulate a tie.

I don't really care which.

I'll make a meaningful vote - give me a bit to read each

[ghug]

Why didn't pick one yourself at the time you posted this?

Oh, now you care about this...

Why didn't you care about it at the time?

I did, I just wasn't active. It's one of the things I pointed to in my accusations of apathy. Mea culpa on thinking you hadn't. I've been frustrated with our disagreement around the meaning of the last EoD.

[ghug]

Why?

Seems unlikely two mafia would have named starting with B

Example of a "wtf? moment" of Chaqa's

It's called a joke...

[ghug]

Oh! What if it's two of damo/heart/Tem?

That would make some sense for the EOD movement. Sweet and Just couldn't get on Macca, since they could see Macca would save by jumping on them, and they were worried it'd line up all the scum on one nearly 100% scum driven wagon.

Just and Sweet were equally suspicious D1, if I were mafia and planned to bus I would have bussed Just instead of sweet earlier on in D1 since one has powers and the other doesn't.

I think it's more like sweet and Just had no choice, it would have been really weird to suddenly swap votes when 3 wagons are all nearly tied for the lead

This could be Temasek trying to get credit for bussing the stalker instead of the goon D1.

I also don't like that Temasek responded to this but ignored my questions from earlier.

This is an absurd thought.

[worcej]

God I don't really see anything super towny from either heart or Tem right now. I'd compared Tem to Macca earlier in the game and found both to be rather meh, but now Macca does look better with the vote from Will on D1 making her top wagon.

##vote Tem

[bozotheclown]

Oh, now you care about this...

Why didn't you care about it at the time?

I did, I just wasn't active. It's one of the things I pointed to in my accusations of apathy. Mea culpa on thinking you hadn't. I've been frustrated with our disagreement around the meaning of the last EoD.

I could see it being T vs. T if damo is mafia and did not want to be responsible for a town mis-kill, but I don't know if he is mafia, and he could be mafia with Temasek and do the same thing.

[ghug]

##VOTE heart

I like this a little more.

[bozotheclown]

Just and Sweet were equally suspicious D1, if I were mafia and planned to bus I would have bussed Just instead of sweet earlier on in D1 since one has powers and the other doesn't.

I think it's more like sweet and Just had no choice, it would have been really weird to suddenly swap votes when 3 wagons are all nearly tied for the lead

This could be Temasek trying to get credit for bussing the stalker instead of the goon D1.

I also don't like that Temasek responded to this but ignored my questions from earlier.

This is an absurd thought.

Which one?

[worcej]

Seems unlikely two mafia would have named starting with B

Example of a "wtf? moment" of Chaqa's

It's called a joke...

[worcej]

##VOTE heart

I like this a little more.

Why?

[ghug]

Why didn't you care about it at the time?

I did, I just wasn't active. It's one of the things I pointed to in my accusations of apathy. Mea culpa on thinking you hadn't. I've been frustrated with our disagreement around the meaning of the last EoD.

I could see it being T vs. T if damo is mafia and did not want to be responsible for a town mis-kill, but I don't know if he is mafia, and he could be mafia with Temasek and do the same thing.

Do you disagree with my assessment that scum is less likely to miss that Jamie flipped watcher like Jamie did?

This is why we need to kill Bona. You're looking for a two-person team and I'm confident we've already caught one of them.

[worcej]

I feel like heart is just going to tie it up by voting Tem here...

[ghug]

This could be Temasek trying to get credit for bussing the stalker instead of the goon D1.

I also don't like that Temasek responded to this but ignored my questions from earlier.

This is an absurd thought.

Which one?

The one in bold. I don't think Tem is thinking with that level of nuance

[heartthrob24909]

I feel like heart is just going to tie it up by voting Tem here...

I'm not going to do that. I think that would be kind of dumb

[BunnyGo]

I feel like heart is just going to tie it up by voting Tem here...

I'm not going to do that. I think that would be kind of dumb

Can you explain what’s dumb about it?

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE heart

I like this a little more.

Inclined to believe Bona for now unless we get a CC since he was one of my stronger town reads earlier on. But am willing to change my vote to him if circumstances change

Tagging along to ##Vote Just

Jamie typically crumbs when he is a PR, but I think he is usually more direct when he has an informative scan. I am not convinced that Jamie did not just suspect Bonatogether was mafia without any N1 scan.

Yeah, this is how I read the post originally.

Bona claiming Doctor is the bit that makes me think Jamie *did* see something, but it's unclear to me what the truth of it all is yet.

Does the person who gets watched know that they were watched? For ease pretend Jamie did see Bona do something. What would give Bona the impression that he was seen doing whatever he was doing?

Considering these posts, do you really like Temasek's reaction better?

[bozotheclown]

I did, I just wasn't active. It's one of the things I pointed to in my accusations of apathy. Mea culpa on thinking you hadn't. I've been frustrated with our disagreement around the meaning of the last EoD.

I could see it being T vs. T if damo is mafia and did not want to be responsible for a town mis-kill, but I don't know if he is mafia, and he could be mafia with Temasek and do the same thing.

Do you disagree with my assessment that scum is less likely to miss that Jamie flipped watcher like Jamie did?

This is why we need to kill Bona. You're looking for a two-person team and I'm confident we've already caught one of them.

Are you talking about damo's town slip? That could be fake, and it is not impossible he misread the reveal as mafia.

I realize Bonatogether could be mafia, he was my preferred DK D2, but there are things that indicate he could be the real doctor. For instance, with Just revealed as mafia, sweetandcool and Just would have been helping build a D1 wagon on their ninja or roleblocker.

[Bonatogether]

dislike these wagons

##vote bunny

[bozotheclown]

This is an absurd thought.

Which one?

The one in bold. I don't think Tem is thinking with that level of nuance

If he is mafia he is aware of is teammate's roles, it is not that subtle a thought.