XX Questions - Game CXXIX

[JECE]

Allied to the Central Powers?

or rather aligned to

Yes

[Jamiet99uk]

Okay so my immediate thoughts were "is it someone from Austria / Hungary who had a part to play in WWI?"

But:

- It cannot be Archduke Franz Ferdinand because his father was a noted member of the House of Habsburg-Lorraine and his mother was a prominent Bourbon princess (violates Question 8).

- It cannot be Kaiser and King Franz Joseph of Austria-Hungary because, again, he had famous royal parents (Quesion 8).

- It obviously cannot be Kaiser Wilhelm II.

- It cannot be Gavrilo Princip, who shot Franz Ferdinand, because he was from the Balkans (Q. 15).

[damo666]

Manfed von Richtofen aka The Red Baron?

[Jamiet99uk]

Manfed von Richtofen aka The Red Baron?

Damo, you had your free guess.

[BrianBaru]

Help a newbie here - isn't a second guess before the 20th question counted as a question?

[Octavious]

Help a newbie here - isn't a second guess before the 20th question counted as a question?

Indeed so, but that in no way makes it forbidden. Nor is it discouraged by the rule set

[JECE]

Manfed von Richtofen aka The Red Baron?

No

[Jamiet99uk]

Help a newbie here - isn't a second guess before the 20th question counted as a question?

Indeed so, but that in no way makes it forbidden. Nor is it discouraged by the rule set

It would be discouraged by the moral code of a gentleman, sir.

[Jamiet99uk]

1. Real physically corporeal natural person from real life.
2. Died of natural causes rather than in some mad whirlwind of violence.
3. Died after the stroke of midnight on Jan 1, 1914.
4. White dude.
5. Not a yankee-doodly-dandlin' US citizen.
6. From the highly civilised continent of Europe.
7. Not known as a scientician, boffin, medicine-man, doctor, tech geek, computer person, or technologiste.
8. His mom and dad were unimportant people, irrelevant nobodies, who have already largely slipped from humanity's collective memory.
9. Not a film, art, music, literature, etc artiste.
10. WAS known for something political and/or military
11. Not British.
12. Not born in Albania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, Hungary, Poland, Romania, or the Soviet Union.
12. Not a leftie.
13. Did not play any notable part in WWII.
14. Did not hold a significant political position in the Government of a member state of EU / EC / EEC
15. Not from the Balkans.
16. Played a part in the First World War.
17. Aligned to the Central Powers.
18. Not Manfred von Richthofen [Damo]


NOT:
Francisco Franco [Damo]
António de Oliveira Salazar [Octavious]
Ioannis Metaxas [BrianBaru]

[Jamiet99uk]

Was he German?

[Hanging Rook]

Help a newbie here - isn't a second guess before the 20th question counted as a question?

Indeed so, but that in no way makes it forbidden. Nor is it discouraged by the rule set

It would be discouraged by the moral code of a gentleman, sir.

Especially as von Richthofen didn't die in natural way

[Jamiet99uk]

Indeed so, but that in no way makes it forbidden. Nor is it discouraged by the rule set

It would be discouraged by the moral code of a gentleman, sir.

Especially as von Richthofen didn't die in natural way

Oh, you're right. He was shot down and killed in action.

Thanks Damo, lol, that was a waste.

[JECE]

Was he German?

Yes

[JECE]

Born in a member state or former member state of the Warsaw Pact?

No

Don't let this throw you off, but his family was from a region that would eventually fall east of the Iron Curtain. To be clear, this hint will probably only be useful to you as you read through individual biographies. Don't let the hint narrow your search.

[Jamiet99uk]

1. Real physically corporeal natural person from real life.
2. Died of natural causes rather than in some mad whirlwind of violence.
3. Died after the stroke of midnight on Jan 1, 1914.
4. White dude.
5. Not a yankee-doodly-dandlin' US citizen.
6. From the highly civilised continent of Europe.
7. Not known as a scientician, boffin, medicine-man, doctor, tech geek, computer person, or technologiste.
8. His mom and dad were unimportant people, irrelevant nobodies, who have already largely slipped from humanity's collective memory.
9. Not a film, art, music, literature, etc artiste.
10. WAS known for something political and/or military
11. Not British.
12. Not born in Albania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, Hungary, Poland, Romania, or the Soviet Union.
12. Not a leftie.
13. Did not play any notable part in WWII.
14. Did not hold a significant political position in the Government of a member state of EU / EC / EEC
15. Not from the Balkans.
16. Played a part in the First World War.
17. Aligned to the Central Powers.
18. Not Manfred von Richthofen [Damo]
19. Was German.


NOT:
Francisco Franco [Damo]
António de Oliveira Salazar [Octavious]
Ioannis Metaxas [BrianBaru]

[Jamiet99uk]

So some of the key clues to focus on:

We are looking for a famous German military or political figure.

His parents were not famous.

He died of natural causes in 1914 or later.

[DarthPorg36]

My free guess: Fritz Haber

[Octavious]

So we're after a Boche who somehow managed to survive the first show but played no meaningful role (possibly due to being dead) in the repeat performance.

I looked in my book of great Germans of the past and present, but the Red Baron has already been guessed and there aren't any other entries

So a famous old soldier from the east, like von Mackensen, or some politician or negotiator (best bet would be one of those in the armistice talks) like von Winterfeldt (although he was more soldier than politician).

I'd be inclined to clear up whether or not he was a politician... or alternatively ask whether he sported a ludicrous moustache (which seems to be around half of them )

[Octavious]

My free guess: Fritz Haber

The famous scientist? It seems unlikely given 7

[Hominidae]

Arthur Zimmerman?