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President Eden wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 10:41 pmD1 worcej voters still alive: Chaqa, myself, damo, Flum, bozo, Bunny
D1 non-worcej voters still alive: Bona, Jamie, pyxxy, brain
In the case where bozo is scum, I could see all three mafia being on worcej's wagon, but I could also see one teammate being off-wagon for various reasons:
- Bona/Jamie could have bused
- pyx was afk
This probably precludes brain + bozo + ghug (not that it was a likely team anyway IMO).
In the case where bozo is town, scum has no real incentive to care beyond not looking weird. A rule of thumb suggests that they wouldn't all dogpile worcej, but there's no logical reason why they couldn't have.
I think my POE at this point is damo, Flum, Bunny, Bona, Jamie, pyxxy, and I need to find a way to take two of those names out of the pool.
Chaqa was saying the rdrivera NK was PR hunting.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:55 pmI'm back, need to catch up from my last post.
Why are you talking about Rdrivera PR hunting? He was a VT, we know that.
This is a disappointing catch-up Bozo. I hope you can spell out why you think Damo is town?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:31 pmI am now caught up, and based just on today, Bonatogether and damo seem like town to me and pyxxy and Fluminator seem like mafia bussing each other.
I plan to go back and see if Fluminator/pyxxy/ghug makes sense.
##VOTE Fluminator
But Fluminator was the one person not in a position to break the tie as I have very clearly set out.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:00 pmThis is what I concluded was most likely N4. However, even though Bonatogether tied the vote with 17 seconds left, I saw it only about 5 seconds too late to break the tie, and Fluminator obviously did see it in time to break the tie if he was in a position to do so, which I think was Bonatogether's point.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:55 pmConclusion:
Bona caused a tie on purpose to save his team-mate Damo.
His excuse that he thought there was time left for Fluminator to break the tie is nonsense, because Fluminator was the one person in that situation who specifically could not move his vote.
The prosecution rests.
Forcing a tie there is obviously something a mafia would not want to do because it would look so suspicious, but if Bonatogether and damo are the remaining mafia, I think it was Bonatogether's best option considering the circumstances, which is why I still think Bonatogether/damo is a possibility.
Bonatogether and damo as town would know obviously this is not true, but pyxxy and Fluminator not giving more consideration to this than they seem to have seems suspicious to me, like they might have decided N4 to bus each other today to try to get town credit if either one is the DK.
Is this sarcasm?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:50 pmI started my review to see if Fluminator/pyxxy/ghug makes sense as the mafia team, and it turns out I voted for all 3 of them within 39 seconds on D1. I now hope this is correct, because that would have to be some kind of a record.
Yes, but damo does that as town, I think with the assumption that if he can find PRs the mafia can also.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:59 pmThis is a disappointing catch-up Bozo. I hope you can spell out why you think Damo is town?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:31 pmI am now caught up, and based just on today, Bonatogether and damo seem like town to me and pyxxy and Fluminator seem like mafia bussing each other.
I plan to go back and see if Fluminator/pyxxy/ghug makes sense.
##VOTE Fluminator
Damo's reaction to the Doc claims was to engage in assertive, demanding PR hunting, don't you think?
I hope as I catch up I will read more about Bozo's "Damo is town" theory.
I agree that is what it looks like Bonatogether was doing, but I think what Bonatogether was saying about Fluminator is that Fluminator's post proved that someone could have seen him tie the vote in time to break the tie, which is true.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:03 amBut Fluminator was the one person not in a position to break the tie as I have very clearly set out.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:00 pmThis is what I concluded was most likely N4. However, even though Bonatogether tied the vote with 17 seconds left, I saw it only about 5 seconds too late to break the tie, and Fluminator obviously did see it in time to break the tie if he was in a position to do so, which I think was Bonatogether's point.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:55 pmConclusion:
Bona caused a tie on purpose to save his team-mate Damo.
His excuse that he thought there was time left for Fluminator to break the tie is nonsense, because Fluminator was the one person in that situation who specifically could not move his vote.
The prosecution rests.
Forcing a tie there is obviously something a mafia would not want to do because it would look so suspicious, but if Bonatogether and damo are the remaining mafia, I think it was Bonatogether's best option considering the circumstances, which is why I still think Bonatogether/damo is a possibility.
Bonatogether and damo as town would know obviously this is not true, but pyxxy and Fluminator not giving more consideration to this than they seem to have seems suspicious to me, like they might have decided N4 to bus each other today to try to get town credit if either one is the DK.
It appears clear to me that either:
a) Bona caused a tie in order to save Damo, or
b) Bona is a fucking idiot who could not order a potato salad, given 5 minutes and a clearly-written menu, in a restaurant which served only potato salad and no other foodstuffs.
It was an observation, I was not saying it made Fluminator/pyxxy/ghug any more likely to be the mafia team.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:09 amIs this sarcasm?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:50 pmI started my review to see if Fluminator/pyxxy/ghug makes sense as the mafia team, and it turns out I voted for all 3 of them within 39 seconds on D1. I now hope this is correct, because that would have to be some kind of a record.
You also voted for me and Worcej during that pointless flurry of votes. Do you think I am scum?
Do you think it is reasonable to force a tie with, as you put it, 17 seconds to go, and to legitimately expect that the tie will be broken?? WHY CAUSE A TIE WITH SUCH A SHORT SPACE OF FUCKING TIME REMAINING, FOR FUCKING JESUS CHRIST'S SAKE?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:25 amI agree that is what it looks like Bonatogether was doing, but I think what Bonatogether was saying about Fluminator is that Fluminator's post proved that someone could have seen him tie the vote in time to break the tie, which is true.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:03 amBut Fluminator was the one person not in a position to break the tie as I have very clearly set out.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:00 pm
This is what I concluded was most likely N4. However, even though Bonatogether tied the vote with 17 seconds left, I saw it only about 5 seconds too late to break the tie, and Fluminator obviously did see it in time to break the tie if he was in a position to do so, which I think was Bonatogether's point.
Forcing a tie there is obviously something a mafia would not want to do because it would look so suspicious, but if Bonatogether and damo are the remaining mafia, I think it was Bonatogether's best option considering the circumstances, which is why I still think Bonatogether/damo is a possibility.
Bonatogether and damo as town would know obviously this is not true, but pyxxy and Fluminator not giving more consideration to this than they seem to have seems suspicious to me, like they might have decided N4 to bus each other today to try to get town credit if either one is the DK.
It appears clear to me that either:
a) Bona caused a tie in order to save Damo, or
b) Bona is a fucking idiot who could not order a potato salad, given 5 minutes and a clearly-written menu, in a restaurant which served only potato salad and no other foodstuffs.