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brainbomb wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:46 pm

reazling I put bunny and jamie twice and no one even cares

We're listed twice to indicate who might be the top and who might be the bottom.

@ Brainbomb: Can you address your thoughts on Flum's "pride" comment and my reaction to it, please?

I've asked you a couple of times now.

As requested I am analysing one pair in detail.

Chaqa and Damo - Day One:

CHAQA votes Ghug / Pyx / Worcej / Flum / Worcej
DAMO votes Bona / Pyx / Worcej

Chaqa and Damo move to Worcej quite close to each other as EOD1 approaches. Chaqa's vote made Worcej a viable wagon, Damo was the next person to vote and made it Worcej 3 / Bozo 3.

There are two very odd posts from Chaqa with regard to Damo's vote on Bona:

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:27 am

Jamie and Damo voting Bona is lazy.

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 01, 2023 3:49 pm

Bona was pointed out by Damo, which I liked, and ghug hasn't been super obviously towny, just posting a lot of more conversational stuff. I'd vote for either today.

Worcej started as a meme vote but I think he's keeping his head low to avoid being Day 1'd as scum.

This is very odd. So Chaqa calls Damo's vote "lazy" but 10 pages later, he applauds Damo for scumreading Bona.

Later Chaqa says:

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:24 pm

Will not vote today:
bozotheclown
brainbomb
BunnyGo
damo666
pyxxy

Then he defends Damo repeatedly against Brainbomb and BunnyGo:

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:26 pm

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:24 pm

ghug wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:22 pm

Who are the hard to read people you want to kill?

damo-bozo-pyxxy-rdrivera-flum

I feel pretty good about Damo, but I would be OK with Rivera or Flum.

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:32 pm

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:32 pm

##vote damo

I'd like to hear some reasoning. Damo is pretty solid town so far to me.

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:54 pm

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:54 pm

id only consider speedwagons if it was rdrivera or damo

Rivera is a better second wagon than Bozo.

Now over to DAMO whose only D1 interactions with Chaqa are the following:

damo666 wrote: ↑

Wed May 31, 2023 8:30 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Wed May 31, 2023 4:59 pm

Bonatogether wrote: ↑

Wed May 31, 2023 3:20 pm

gonna be real i skimmed it

What do you think about the random dayvig mechanic?

Taint random is it?

damo666 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:11 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:02 pm

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:15 am

These are 5 players I would be OK voting for today based on the information I currently have, not based on the information I had on page 2.

Why not just list them. Weird subroutine.

He did list them. In a series of votes.

If they are both scum this would look like Chaqa defending Damo, while Damo distances himself from Chaqa.

This pairing would mean all three scum were on Worcej on D1.

Night 1 and Day 2 coming up.

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:54 pm

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:47 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:44 pm

For: Bona, Damo, Flum
Against: Bozo, Brain, Bunny, Jamie, Pyxxy

why on these two. is this not today, or not ever. or you just cannot imagine they could be scum?

This is for today, at least. I think Jamie is just plain town, but Bunny could be mafia. He's the most likely busser on the ghug wagon IMO.

why is jamie 'plain town'

i don't see it

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:55 pm

@ Brainbomb: Can you address your thoughts on Flum's "pride" comment and my reaction to it, please?

I've asked you a couple of times now.

I think it was very calmly handled. it was odd. I didnt think it was appropriate and I made that clear. I think ghug being there to talk about it probably makes it unlikely all three of you are scum but I cant really say for sure that flum was not just using that as a reason to avoid voting you. but then he voted you anyway.

It was just a weird place to take the game.

there are scummier things along the way than any of that. I defended you. this really doesnt need to be discussed any further

Bonatogether wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:59 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:54 pm

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:47 pm

why on these two. is this not today, or not ever. or you just cannot imagine they could be scum?

This is for today, at least. I think Jamie is just plain town, but Bunny could be mafia. He's the most likely busser on the ghug wagon IMO.

why is jamie 'plain town'

i don't see it

I could be wrong. Jamie is hard to read.

Continuing EOD2:

Foxcastle wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:15 pm

VOTE COUNT

BunnyGo (4): Fluminator, damo666, bozotheclown, President Eden
bozotheclown (3): Bonatogether, Jamiet99uk, ghug
ghug (2): pyxxy, Chaqa
damo666 (2): BunnyGo, brainbomb

Bunny's tart is about to get popped.

45 minutes remain in D2.

I give Chaqa my read of damo

he says reasonable and votes damo too.

pyxxy asks about damo

I answer him

pyxxy interacts with brain a bit. Says he townreads bozo.

Bona "leaves" and pushes a bozo wagon.

Flum "leaves", pushes my wagon.

Chaqa says he'll vote bozo if it is down to bozo-bunny

ghug defends damo.

damo calls me dumb and scum.

chaqa says the damo vote is to "protect" me and bozo.

Eden jumps off my wagon to restart the ghug push.

chaqa quickly goes back and encourages damo to join him.

bozo asks chaqa to go back to ghug in a crosspost.

Foxcastle wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:45 pm

VOTE COUNT

bozotheclown (3): Bonatogether, Jamiet99uk, ghug
BunnyGo (3): Fluminator, damo666, bozotheclown
damo666 (3): BunnyGo, brainbomb, President Eden
ghug (2): pyxxy, Chaqa

The bakers are a frenzy of activity! It's impossible to tell who will come out ahead.

Day 2 ends in 15 minutes. There will be no further vote counts.

Bozo suggests I join him on ghug as a "compromise"

pyxxy then says that he researched damo, and agrees that damo votes for scum as a towntell. Says he's invested in me-damo conflict. So LEAVES ghug and votes me.

bozo likes the bunny voters.

pyxxy then goes right back to voting ghug.

Then back to me again! Because it "risks bozo"

bozo then asks if Bunny and Chaqa will actually vote ghug as a counter wagon, and Eden votes ghug.

bozo then asks Eden to move BACK to voting me.

I shift to ghug. (4 Bunny - 3 ghug - 3 bozo)

damo insists his scum read of me is too strong to leave ever.

bozo votes for ghug. (4 ghug - 3 Bunny - 3 bozo) with 5 minutes left.

damo then posts "ghug ain't scum, Bunny's your man"

With 2 minutes left, pyxxy shows up to vote ghug.

damo says "bozo you've got this wrong"

and then posts "NO" when he sees pyxxy's vote.


Summary:

damo comes off REALLY towny here at the end.

Bona and Flum come off badly. ESPECIALLY if damo-bozo-me all town. They left when it looked very safe for scum.

pyxxy comes off pretty good. Confused town jumping on and off ghug, not unstable busser.

##Vote Fluminator
##END

I think we have enough data here to move on.

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:44 pm

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:39 pm

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:35 pm

Ehhhhh why does bunny lack passion for the ghug wagon. Thats the part im not seeing anything on. If its just as simple as " I really really want damo and I beleive in damo being scum!!!" then why indulge anyone on ghug at all anyway.

follow the passion. and I feel no passion for killing ghug in that scenario. and no discussion about the merits of the ghug wagon either

I had passion for damo. I think I can read him. I now think I was wrong.

I had previously scumread ghug, and he successfully put me off it.

I don't understand why you now think you were wrong, other than damo saying he was wrong about you.

See my EOD2 final post. I've been saying for a while his POSTS at the EOD2 seem VERY TOWNY.

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:59 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:55 pm

@ Brainbomb: Can you address your thoughts on Flum's "pride" comment and my reaction to it, please?

I've asked you a couple of times now.

I think it was very calmly handled. it was odd. I didnt think it was appropriate and I made that clear. I think ghug being there to talk about it probably makes it unlikely all three of you are scum but I cant really say for sure that flum was not just using that as a reason to avoid voting you. but then he voted you anyway.

It was just a weird place to take the game.

there are scummier things along the way than any of that. I defended you. this really doesnt need to be discussed any further

I did not find it problematic.

It is pride month, and I am LGBT. At worst it was a gentle rib, but in quite a fond way, so I took it as friendly banter.

There's a very broad sliding scale with these things. In the last game you literally had Ghug call someone a paedophile and I was the only one who apparently found that inappropriate!

Saying "it's pride month" in relation to me is like 0.1% as offensive by comparison.

CHAQA and DAMO, NIGHT 1:

Night 1 Damo's only real mention of Chaqa is to say that Chaqa would be null if Bozo is scum.

CHAQA had this to say:

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:55 am

ghug wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:48 am

Uneasy townreads:
Brain - Disliked him early but he's trending upwards.
Damo - liked his first 24 hours but EoD was unimpressive
Chaqa - same as damo

Your read on Damo and I is really lazy. What was unimpressive about our EOD compared to our first 24 hours? Why was it unimpressive?

This is feeling like scum!ghug

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:13 am

I’m roughly at

Town-Bozo, brain, Bunny, Damo
Null-Bona, Jamie, pyxxy, rivera
Scummy-Flum, ghug

So Chaqa continues to townread Damo and continues to defend him (notably, to Ghug).

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:54 pm

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:46 pm

reazling I put bunny and jamie twice and no one even cares

We're listed twice to indicate who might be the top and who might be the bottom.

Eden already wrote flavour text about this in M62

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:01 pm

Bonatogether wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:59 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:54 pm

This is for today, at least. I think Jamie is just plain town, but Bunny could be mafia. He's the most likely busser on the ghug wagon IMO.

why is jamie 'plain town'

i don't see it

I could be wrong. Jamie is hard to read.

why is he plain town

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:04 pm

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:59 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:55 pm

@ Brainbomb: Can you address your thoughts on Flum's "pride" comment and my reaction to it, please?

I've asked you a couple of times now.

I think it was very calmly handled. it was odd. I didnt think it was appropriate and I made that clear. I think ghug being there to talk about it probably makes it unlikely all three of you are scum but I cant really say for sure that flum was not just using that as a reason to avoid voting you. but then he voted you anyway.

It was just a weird place to take the game.

there are scummier things along the way than any of that. I defended you. this really doesnt need to be discussed any further

I did not find it problematic.

It is pride month, and I am LGBT. At worst it was a gentle rib, but in quite a fond way, so I took it as friendly banter.

There's a very broad sliding scale with these things. In the last game you literally had Ghug call someone a paedophile and I was the only one who apparently found that inappropriate!

Saying "it's pride month" in relation to me is like 0.1% as offensive by comparison.

I am assuming you meant you in the demontrative way and not implying that "you" as in brainbomb encouraged ghug to call someone a pedophile.

I'm feeling pretty good about the bona vote. Don't hate the flum wagon for POE, and nothing he's done has been towny.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 04, 2023 2:02 am

Just FWIW as someone who lives in Durham, this is an amazing level of detail. Quite fantastic.

This is your first reaction to seeing scum flip.

"just for what its worth (flavour)"

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:10 pm

So, just checking in here as I won't have time to comment much in this super-short night phase, but great work town flipping Ghug. I was happy with both wagons but the record will show Ghug was a scumread of mine, so I'm glad I got that right. I guess Bozo is probably not scum. Need to seriously put Damo under some pressure tomorrow.

Were you more excited to see your hometown mentioned in the flavour, or to see a mafia member die.

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:15 pm

I'm feeling pretty good about the bona vote. Don't hate the flum wagon for POE, and nothing he's done has been towny.

I'm feeling like moving to Bona

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:15 pm

I'm feeling pretty good about the bona vote. Don't hate the flum wagon for POE, and nothing he's done has been towny.

Early reasons included:

Bona fixating on bozo early.

Bona being "mean"

Then noticed that bona and ghug got together on bozo early. Questioned if they would, and yeah...they would.

Bona has voted bozo first two days and now off wagon on pyxxy. Disappeared when it may have been TvTvT yesterday.

you dont have to be me. let me say that very clear.

but I rarely read flavour posts. I skip to the end, see who died, and then sometimes ill read flavour. "sometimes"

maybe you really love this flavour and the effort he is putting into it. Thats definetely possible.

Or its equally possible you already knew the flip and you just wanted to see if it got a fun flavour write up..

if its the latter you kinda outted yourself

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:05 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:04 pm

I did not find it problematic.

It is pride month, and I am LGBT. At worst it was a gentle rib, but in quite a fond way, so I took it as friendly banter.

There's a very broad sliding scale with these things. In the last game you literally had Ghug call someone a paedophile and I was the only one who apparently found that inappropriate!

Saying "it's pride month" in relation to me is like 0.1% as offensive by comparison.

I am assuming you meant you in the demontrative way and not implying that "you" as in brainbomb encouraged ghug to call someone a pedophile.

Sorry Brainbomb, that's right, I was not suggesting that you, Brainbomb, had any involvement in that. I meant it in the sense of "in that last game, you all saw xx happen, and I was the only one to protest."