M1025 Game Thread

[Chaqa]

I'm at a gig and can't post for a bit.

Don't hammer.

Fiiiiine
##unend

[bozotheclown]

Bunny if you're doctor you should tell me. If you are I'll just self vote lol

I agree with Bonatogether, this looks like Fluminator was concerned BunnyGo would claim doctor at the last minute and he would get DKed because there would not be time for an alternate wagon to form.

Is the he here Flum or Bunny?

Sorry, I meant Fluminator. If BunnyGo claimed with 1 or 2 minutes left, there would be time for someone to switch from BunnyGo to Fluminator, but probably not enough time to do anything else. Fluminator was asking BunnyGo to claim with 8 minutes left. If Fluminator was really willing to be the DK if BunnyGo claimed doctor, that could have waited until the last minute.

[bozotheclown]

I think BunnyGo claimed doctor to try to get Fluminator DKed, not expecting another wagon to form, then made the "last post" post to try to draw the RB and NK, as the mafia might not think he fake claimed as VT. BunnyGo might have come back if we had not hammered him, so that probably was a mistake after all.

[Chaqa]

It could also be the case he thought Bunny was the doctor and was worried it was about to be a PR kill.

[Chaqa]

I think BunnyGo claimed doctor to try to get Fluminator DKed, not expecting another wagon to form, then made the "last post" post to try to draw the RB and NK, as the mafia might not think he fake claimed as VT. BunnyGo might have come back if we had not hammered him, so that probably was a mistake after all.

Maybe. #inbunnywetrust?

[pyxxy]

I am now caught up, and based just on today, Bonatogether and damo seem like town to me and pyxxy and Fluminator seem like mafia bussing each other.

I plan to go back and see if Fluminator/pyxxy/ghug makes sense.

##VOTE Fluminator

thank you for catching up in all of 3 posts and making my tinfoil that it's somehow now you and damo feel more reasonable

[bozotheclown]

It could also be the case he thought Bunny was the doctor and was worried it was about to be a PR kill.

Yes, but 8 minutes before EOD seemed too early for that, because with the roleblocker, the doctor would be an easy NK. Also, Fluminator said he was willing to be the DK if BunnyGo claimed doctor, and I think it was obvious BunnyGo would claim at some point to prevent his mis-kill if he was the doctor (or if he was mafia). I was expecting the claim because I thought he was mafia.

[pyxxy]

nah fuck this I'm back on ##VOTE damo

[pyxxy]

I am OK assuming Bonatogether and damo are the last mafia. If Bonatogether had not tied the vote, damo would have been eliminated, and Bonatogether was already under pressure D3, so preventing the damo DK, which cost town a mis-kill, was probably the best mafia play in that situation. Also, there is no good town explanation for it, and I did not find it particularly believable when Bonatogether said he thought there was still time left to break the tie.

I'm mad so cherrypicking bias here as I flip through bozo on D4 and N4 but you're telling me this clown just have a damo-bona solve and yet now appears out of the circus tent the moment that the damo wagon dies

[Chaqa]

nah fuck this I'm back on ##VOTE damo

Is Flum the roleblocker to your goon then?

[Chaqa]

Circle the wagons on Flum ya’ll

[Bonatogether]

FWIW, I was planning to start pushing ghug on day 3 if he was still alive and hadn't caught scum yet.

Ok, in the heat of the moment, it was between me and bunny, and I wasn't even sure bunny was scum. I was getting a lot of suspicion and I figured I would be a better kill than a PR. (I fell on my sword for Maniac in a previous game as a VT because I correctly read Maniac as a PR) It might have been the wrong play to ask for him to claim, but he was dead if he didn't anyway.
I fully expected to die after he claimed (I made a fun death quote and bonus points to anyone who knows which movie that's from) but I just didn't want to outright vote myself when it actually happened so I did a vote throw, and then survival instinct still kicked in when some other people went on the table.

I thought Bunny was hinting doc because last game I was in with him was when he was town he died as a V like normal and didn't care, and his incredible passion in these times made me think he was either scum or PR, and after he killed ghug I thought pr was more likely.

easy to say now.

what is this second paragraph responding to

what does this last paragraph even mean. caring = pr tell? there's no way


why did you scumread or scumlean or whatever most of the game in that one post?

Yaah I know
The second paragraph was about your confusion regarding my actions during the bunny vote.
I can pull up the last game when I can but this was not VT bunny in my estimation

i still don't really understand what you're saying in it. if you believed bunny was either pr or scum, then by prompting him to claim, you can't trust any claim he makes at all. if he was pr, he was going to claim anyways, and if scum, you only made it more likely that he would claim (which reduces the credibility of any claim - denying information to town, etc, etc)

what specific things did he say that tipped you off to bongo not being vt? name posts

[bozotheclown]

I am now caught up, and based just on today, Bonatogether and damo seem like town to me and pyxxy and Fluminator seem like mafia bussing each other.

I plan to go back and see if Fluminator/pyxxy/ghug makes sense.

##VOTE Fluminator

thank you for catching up in all of 3 posts and making my tinfoil that it's somehow now you and damo feel more reasonable

I may have only posted three times during the time you are referring to, but I read all of the posts. Is it because I only commented on 3 posts while catching up, or because I now suspect you and Fluminator are the remaining mafia, that makes me more likely to be mafia now?

[pyxxy]

bozo honestly I've been clearing you off D1 VCA and if D1 was actually TvS I'm gonna eat my hat

[pyxxy]

nah fuck this I'm back on ##VOTE damo

Is Flum the roleblocker to your goon then?

flip him and find out, man, but I cannot believe bozo comes in and goes from vote damo to damo solved it wowee

[pyxxy]

Conclusion:

Bona caused a tie on purpose to save his team-mate Damo.

His excuse that he thought there was time left for Fluminator to break the tie is nonsense, because Fluminator was the one person in that situation who specifically could not move his vote.

The prosecution rests.

This is what I concluded was most likely N4. However, even though Bonatogether tied the vote with 17 seconds left, I saw it only about 5 seconds too late to break the tie, and Fluminator obviously did see it in time to break the tie if he was in a position to do so, which I think was Bonatogether's point.

Forcing a tie there is obviously something a mafia would not want to do because it would look so suspicious, but if Bonatogether and damo are the remaining mafia, I think it was Bonatogether's best option considering the circumstances, which is why I still think Bonatogether/damo is a possibility.

Bonatogether and damo as town would know obviously this is not true, but pyxxy and Fluminator not giving more consideration to this than they seem to have seems suspicious to me, like they might have decided N4 to bus each other today to try to get town credit if either one is the DK.

what do you mean I haven't been considering it, I've literally been talking about the tie since it happened

[pyxxy]

I'm doing math really quick here but I think it's fine if I die after Flum, right?

4v1 and then 2v1, that's two mischops if I'm counting right?

so it's not town-losing to go Flum->me if he's scum and like clearly I'm worked up today

okay no so actually maybe I'm overreacting here

[bozotheclown]

I am OK assuming Bonatogether and damo are the last mafia. If Bonatogether had not tied the vote, damo would have been eliminated, and Bonatogether was already under pressure D3, so preventing the damo DK, which cost town a mis-kill, was probably the best mafia play in that situation. Also, there is no good town explanation for it, and I did not find it particularly believable when Bonatogether said he thought there was still time left to break the tie.

I'm mad so cherrypicking bias here as I flip through bozo on D4 and N4 but you're telling me this clown just have a damo-bona solve and yet now appears out of the circus tent the moment that the damo wagon dies

I read all of the posts in the 21 hours I was away performing my functions at the circus, and Bonatogether and damo were very convincing, while Fluminator and you making hedging cases on each other was not.

[Bonatogether]

the pyx is malding on an unprecedented scale

unforeseen in scope

unknown in its entirety

[pyxxy]

hmmmm no okay we're fine actually

if it's damo bozo then this just gets damo killed tomorrow and we're still in the same spot