M1025 Game Thread

[Fluminator]

@Bona
are you done all your graduating yet? Is life back to normal yet?

[BunnyGo]

I need someone other than chaqa to shake me and tell me that Im just being unfair to Jamie here. or tell me there is some logic to what im saying..

something. please. anybody

I've been suspicious of Jamiet ever since that whole overly defensive misread of a Bunny post. It's never fully cleared my head.
It was actually you and ghug that swayed me to let it drop for a bit lol.

This is a good callback...

[BunnyGo]

Oh no.
this isnt good.

this isnt good at all. gonna need a moment here but, this basically makes it seem like its just chaqa-jamie as the last two scum. especially given what else is happening on this page right now.

huh...

why...? Because Jamie is saying 1 but not both, and is right about at least 1?

bunny dumbtells is a scum trait he has

Dumb Bunny (TM) is always here!

[Fluminator]

I do think bunny being super active and engaged here is a towntell. He's almost definitely not going to be the daykill yet he isn't getting lazy about it which is often a scum move.

(Even though he has 3 votes, I don't think he's getting killed today and I think he knows that)

[bozotheclown]

Continuing the EOD 2 analysis:

We last left off with ghug defending me hard from everyone. Damo's and brain's interactions with ghug seem towny on aging. Bozo don't look good, but not terrible.

Flum makes wedding excuses.

Eden votes me leaving damo because he expects the wagon to fall (I'm the rest of the wagon).

ghug argues with brain and suggests that brain's townread of bozo is wrong...

bozo then immediately susses ghug for the post.

brain says pyxxy is best intel elimination.

ghug agrees about going for pyxxy, and so does Eden.

Eden also says I'm a big loss to kill if town and big win to kill if scum.

damo wants me, also doubts eden (OMGWS)

bozo defends damo from Eden.

ghug argues with bozo about tunneling on him/eden/me.

Chaqa calls you guys out for a Bunny wagon.

Bozo defends his views. Then says damo hard to read, but he town reads him, then wonders why Chaqa doesn't scum read me.


ghug votes bozo

bozo responds by asking ghug how he feels about me. This is a strange response.

ghug and bozo go back and forth about me. Ghug says I'd care more about my appearance as scum. (@pyxxy: this is what I said later in my cribnotes about my fault as a scum player)

I show up and yell at you guys. I call out bozo specifically.

ghug then addresses me and asks me to get Eden. "wanna kill Eden with me?"

bozo asks me again about why I was willing to vote worcej.

pyxxy shows up and laments the page count.

Flum shows up again about wedding.

I call bozo a Dumb Dumb.

ghug disagrees with me about damo being obvscum.

I make a case against damo again, and state a townread of bozo again. I address Flum's wedding drama.

Chaqa claims bozo and I are 2 of his top 3 townreads and dreads our wagons. Asks people to get ghug.

brain "flips" his reads to say bona, me, pyxxy are the fair scum shots.

I respond to chaqa and vote ghug. At the time, only pyxxy was voting ghug.

brain and I briefly interact. Then he votes pyxxy.

chaqa joins pyxxy and me on ghug.

pyxxy then argues with me and chaqa about stuff, then apologizes to chaqa.

pyxxy then says he's looking forward to voting me and seeing why I'm voted.

ghug pushes me to vote eden again.

Bona tells me my read on damo is not obvious.

pyxxy continues arguing with chaqa about his reads being static.

Bona says he'd "vote ghug for kicks, but not really"

Bona asserts pyxxy is town for arguing with chaqa.

brainbomb says "ghug just so you know im not gonna let you die"

Eden susses chaqa lightly

I push again for damo wagon, and chaqa says is better than bunny/bozo.

I leave the ghug wagon for trying damo again.

Chaqa says we should keep trying for ghug instead.

I push back that damo is too obv scum to pass up.

brain jumps off of voting me to join me on damo.

and tells pyxxy that his timing is suspicious.

VOTE COUNT

BunnyGo (4): Fluminator, damo666, bozotheclown, President Eden
bozotheclown (3): Bonatogether, Jamiet99uk, ghug
ghug (2): pyxxy, Chaqa
damo666 (2): BunnyGo, brainbomb

Bunny's tart is about to get popped.

45 minutes remain in D2.

summary:

ghug interacted A LOT with me, nudging me to vote Eden repeatedly. Looks like pocketing to me instead of theatre (go check for yourself!)

Chaqa pushed a ghug wagon subtly, and hard.

pyxxy sussed both the people voting ghug with him.

Bona looks bad for his ghug statement.

bozo and ghug look like theatre.

Flum was barely here.

brain somehow looks good going from voting me to voting WITH me.

Did you need to re-read to find out if ghug was pocketing you or defending you?

[brainbomb]

I’ll vote a counterwagin at the end if I must. But I think Bozo is town

↑Chaqa: "I’m not sure what to do when my #2 and 3 townreads are the wagons.

Doesn’t anyone want to get ghug?"

##vote ghug

I’d love a Damo wagon

↑Chaqa: "It would be better than Bozo or you."

Then ##VOTE DAMO numbnuts

Tell me why you so set on Ghug compared to an obv Damo? Damo soooooo easy to scum read.

Damo’s scumtell is disinterest paired with lack of reading, focus, understanding. He mixes in snark for nothing. Like this game.

##vote ghug

There is an effort to move it off ghug onto damo. Bunny is fighting really hard to get the damo flip and then resigns himself to ghug.

This does seem like bussing out of having lost the battle to get the outcome he wants.

[Chaqa]

I don't know if I have enough towncred to enforce it, but I think Bunny should be off the table today.

[Chaqa]

I’ll vote a counterwagin at the end if I must. But I think Bozo is town

↑Chaqa: "I’m not sure what to do when my #2 and 3 townreads are the wagons.

Doesn’t anyone want to get ghug?"

##vote ghug

I’d love a Damo wagon

↑Chaqa: "It would be better than Bozo or you."

Then ##VOTE DAMO numbnuts

Tell me why you so set on Ghug compared to an obv Damo? Damo soooooo easy to scum read.

Damo’s scumtell is disinterest paired with lack of reading, focus, understanding. He mixes in snark for nothing. Like this game.

##vote ghug

There is an effort to move it off ghug onto damo. Bunny is fighting really hard to get the damo flip and then resigns himself to ghug.

This does seem like bussing out of having lost the battle to get the outcome he wants.

We did eliminate Bunny-Damo as a pair, so that jives.

[Chaqa]

It seems to me we have two coinflip possibilities:
Bunny-Damo

and Bona-Pyxxy

Bunny and Pyxxy voted ghug out, so I feel we should give them some credit.

Bona, Flum, Damo for today's wagons.

Also fits nicely into the solve I have.

[Fluminator]

rereading bona currently and now I see why people are thinking the pyxxy thing is unusual. he seems like he was trolling there and it went awry so he tries to make it seem like he misunderstood who died.

either way bona hard sells the idea that he is very far removed from paying attention to the game which is something he also did last game with his fake catchup posts. I wonder if maybe this is a little more sinister than that however

Do you believe his real life excuses are real?

Do you believe that it's possible he'd pull that specific stunt as a scummate with pyxxy?

'do you believe his real life excuses are real'

this question ticks me off so much. i don't bullshit about real life things, and i never have, i've never implied it and i've never said that i thought anyone else was. what do you want? receipts of my schedule? what the fuck am i supposed to say to this

In one of the early games, Maniac requested bus tickets as proof from thdfrance who didn't believe his story and france delivered.

[bozotheclown]

I’ll vote a counterwagin at the end if I must. But I think Bozo is town

↑Chaqa: "I’m not sure what to do when my #2 and 3 townreads are the wagons.

Doesn’t anyone want to get ghug?"

##vote ghug

I’d love a Damo wagon

↑Chaqa: "It would be better than Bozo or you."

Then ##VOTE DAMO numbnuts

Tell me why you so set on Ghug compared to an obv Damo? Damo soooooo easy to scum read.

Damo’s scumtell is disinterest paired with lack of reading, focus, understanding. He mixes in snark for nothing. Like this game.

##vote ghug

There is an effort to move it off ghug onto damo. Bunny is fighting really hard to get the damo flip and then resigns himself to ghug.

This does seem like bussing out of having lost the battle to get the outcome he wants.

We did eliminate Bunny-Damo as a pair, so that jives.

Who is the "we" in that statement, you and damo?

[BunnyGo]

I do think bunny being super active and engaged here is a towntell. He's almost definitely not going to be the daykill yet he isn't getting lazy about it which is often a scum move.

(Even though he has 3 votes, I don't think he's getting killed today and I think he knows that)

Bunny has been speedwagoned enough in the past few games to expect I'll be the daykill with no votes and 40 minutes to go.

[Fluminator]

Bona, when you were town previously, you would read the ISO of a flipped scum and figure out who the most likely partners are. Why haven't you done that this game yet?

[BunnyGo]

Continuing the EOD 2 analysis:

We last left off with ghug defending me hard from everyone. Damo's and brain's interactions with ghug seem towny on aging. Bozo don't look good, but not terrible.

Flum makes wedding excuses.

Eden votes me leaving damo because he expects the wagon to fall (I'm the rest of the wagon).

ghug argues with brain and suggests that brain's townread of bozo is wrong...

bozo then immediately susses ghug for the post.

brain says pyxxy is best intel elimination.

ghug agrees about going for pyxxy, and so does Eden.

Eden also says I'm a big loss to kill if town and big win to kill if scum.

damo wants me, also doubts eden (OMGWS)

bozo defends damo from Eden.

ghug argues with bozo about tunneling on him/eden/me.

Chaqa calls you guys out for a Bunny wagon.

Bozo defends his views. Then says damo hard to read, but he town reads him, then wonders why Chaqa doesn't scum read me.


ghug votes bozo

bozo responds by asking ghug how he feels about me. This is a strange response.

ghug and bozo go back and forth about me. Ghug says I'd care more about my appearance as scum. (@pyxxy: this is what I said later in my cribnotes about my fault as a scum player)

I show up and yell at you guys. I call out bozo specifically.

ghug then addresses me and asks me to get Eden. "wanna kill Eden with me?"

bozo asks me again about why I was willing to vote worcej.

pyxxy shows up and laments the page count.

Flum shows up again about wedding.

I call bozo a Dumb Dumb.

ghug disagrees with me about damo being obvscum.

I make a case against damo again, and state a townread of bozo again. I address Flum's wedding drama.

Chaqa claims bozo and I are 2 of his top 3 townreads and dreads our wagons. Asks people to get ghug.

brain "flips" his reads to say bona, me, pyxxy are the fair scum shots.

I respond to chaqa and vote ghug. At the time, only pyxxy was voting ghug.

brain and I briefly interact. Then he votes pyxxy.

chaqa joins pyxxy and me on ghug.

pyxxy then argues with me and chaqa about stuff, then apologizes to chaqa.

pyxxy then says he's looking forward to voting me and seeing why I'm voted.

ghug pushes me to vote eden again.

Bona tells me my read on damo is not obvious.

pyxxy continues arguing with chaqa about his reads being static.

Bona says he'd "vote ghug for kicks, but not really"

Bona asserts pyxxy is town for arguing with chaqa.

brainbomb says "ghug just so you know im not gonna let you die"

Eden susses chaqa lightly

I push again for damo wagon, and chaqa says is better than bunny/bozo.

I leave the ghug wagon for trying damo again.

Chaqa says we should keep trying for ghug instead.

I push back that damo is too obv scum to pass up.

brain jumps off of voting me to join me on damo.

and tells pyxxy that his timing is suspicious.

VOTE COUNT

BunnyGo (4): Fluminator, damo666, bozotheclown, President Eden
bozotheclown (3): Bonatogether, Jamiet99uk, ghug
ghug (2): pyxxy, Chaqa
damo666 (2): BunnyGo, brainbomb

Bunny's tart is about to get popped.

45 minutes remain in D2.

summary:

ghug interacted A LOT with me, nudging me to vote Eden repeatedly. Looks like pocketing to me instead of theatre (go check for yourself!)

Chaqa pushed a ghug wagon subtly, and hard.

pyxxy sussed both the people voting ghug with him.

Bona looks bad for his ghug statement.

bozo and ghug look like theatre.

Flum was barely here.

brain somehow looks good going from voting me to voting WITH me.

Did you need to re-read to find out if ghug was pocketing you or defending you?

I needed to reread to see all the interactions. But his jumped out at me (because it's about me (BUNNY!)) I do more than VCA...

Go look, he repeatedly directs me to do things. I think brain will say that the roleplay/motivation is not there as scum theatre. Even you might.

[Bonatogether]

@Bona
are you done all your graduating yet? Is life back to normal yet?

i am fully gradated now

[Chaqa]

There is an effort to move it off ghug onto damo. Bunny is fighting really hard to get the damo flip and then resigns himself to ghug.

This does seem like bussing out of having lost the battle to get the outcome he wants.

We did eliminate Bunny-Damo as a pair, so that jives.

Who is the "we" in that statement, you and damo?

The ongoing scum-pair elimination process I am trying to get town to collaborate on. I would appreciate your contributions, too.

[BunnyGo]

It seems to me we have two coinflip possibilities:
Bunny-Damo

and Bona-Pyxxy

Bunny and Pyxxy voted ghug out, so I feel we should give them some credit.

Bona, Flum, Damo for today's wagons.

Also fits nicely into the solve I have.

Bona did say he'd vote ghug as a joke, but not really.

[bozotheclown]

I do think bunny being super active and engaged here is a towntell. He's almost definitely not going to be the daykill yet he isn't getting lazy about it which is often a scum move.

(Even though he has 3 votes, I don't think he's getting killed today and I think he knows that)

Do you not believe BunnyGo when he says this:

What would town!bunny say differently in your opinion?

I don't think town bunny confidently states that he's always authentic.

We agree about your scum game style and not wanting to look less authentic. I think I kinda just expected you to say "yeah I feel like I'm communicating well this game since it's so much easier than last game when I was scum". Instead this feels like bluster.

Here’s the honest from the Bunny’s mouth critique of my scum game and easy way to read me: I don’t give a flying fu** as town. I do as scum.

[Bonatogether]

Bona, when you were town previously, you would read the ISO of a flipped scum and figure out who the most likely partners are. Why haven't you done that this game yet?

laziness

also dispute that i always do that.

[BunnyGo]

I do think bunny being super active and engaged here is a towntell. He's almost definitely not going to be the daykill yet he isn't getting lazy about it which is often a scum move.

(Even though he has 3 votes, I don't think he's getting killed today and I think he knows that)

Do you not believe BunnyGo when he says this:

I don't think town bunny confidently states that he's always authentic.

We agree about your scum game style and not wanting to look less authentic. I think I kinda just expected you to say "yeah I feel like I'm communicating well this game since it's so much easier than last game when I was scum". Instead this feels like bluster.

Here’s the honest from the Bunny’s mouth critique of my scum game and easy way to read me: I don’t give a flying fu** as town. I do as scum.

Again you misunderstand:

Flum says that I'm not going to be killed, and I'm hunting/active. Instead of coasting.

My "don't give a fu**" is about people's opinions of me. I care about my appearance as scum.