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Re: M1025 Game Thread

#2601 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:26 am

damo666 wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:14 am
damo666 wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:11 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:03 am


Are you summarizing Chaqa's position or making this conclusion?
Mine but doesn't apply if Bunny is scum.

In fact to me Bunny scum townclears Flum.
Following this logic there must be exactly one scum in {Bunny, Flum}. We should vote from these two.
You concluded Chaqa was town based on the assumption that BunnyGo was town. Why couldn't Chaqa have been bussing ghug regardless of BunnyGo's
alignment? Chaqa had consistently town read BunnyGo and me, so you were his only other option D2 EOD if he was bussing ghug, and he move from ghug to you in the last hour of D2. Chaqa did not move his vote back to ghug until PE voted for ghug, and Chaqa would have know it would look bad not to move back to ghug.
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Re: M1025 Game Thread

#2602 Post by damo666 » Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:29 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:26 am
damo666 wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:14 am
damo666 wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:11 am


Mine but doesn't apply if Bunny is scum.

In fact to me Bunny scum townclears Flum.
Following this logic there must be exactly one scum in {Bunny, Flum}. We should vote from these two.
You concluded Chaqa was town based on the assumption that BunnyGo was town. Why couldn't Chaqa have been bussing ghug regardless of BunnyGo's
alignment? Chaqa had consistently town read BunnyGo and me, so you were his only other option D2 EOD if he was bussing ghug, and he move from ghug to you in the last hour of D2. Chaqa did not move his vote back to ghug until PE voted for ghug, and Chaqa would have know it would look bad not to move back to ghug.
You got me again.
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Re: M1025 Game Thread

#2603 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:30 am

damo666 wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:17 am
Ok let's kill Bunny.

If Bunny flips town then tomorrow YOU MUST KILL FLUM.

##VOTE BUNNY
If BunnyGo is town, I think it is more likely that Fluminator is correct about Chaqa being mafia than Fluminator is mafia.
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Re: M1025 Game Thread

#2604 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:48 am

Chaqa wrote:
Sat Jun 03, 2023 1:06 pm
Updated PoE from my PoV:

The Good
bozotheclown
brainbomb
BunnyGo
Chaqa
Jamiet99uk

The Bad
Bonatogether
damo666
pyxxy

The Ugly
Fluminator
ghug
If the scum team is ghug/Chaqa/damo, Chaqa would not have had any choice except to bus at D2 EOD when his town reads were the only alternate wagons to his teammates.
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Re: M1025 Game Thread

#2605 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:10 am

Maybe ghug stayed away at EOD because when he came back at 22 minutes, he and his teammate damo were wagons, ghug would not be able to change his vote to his town read BunnyGo, and he knew his other teammate Chaqa would not be able to vote for me or BunnyGo.
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Re: M1025 Game Thread

#2606 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:38 am

pyxxy wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:29 am
damo666 wrote:
Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:15 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:10 pm
Ironically, I think there's on average about 1.5 mafia on the ghug wagon.

Don't clear anyone involved.
Nah. I think Pyxxy is the only possible busser (and I know you love a bus).

There is at least one scum in {Bona, Jamie, Flum, brain} possibly both
damo666 wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:36 pm
VCA working backwards from D" making no assumptions other than known facts:

[ed note: content removed here]

Town core {damo, Bozo, Bunny, Chaqa, Pyxxy}

Possible scum: Bona, brain, Flum, Jamie

I find it hard to order those 4 but gun to head I'll say Flum, Bona, Jamie, brain

##vote Flum but essentially happy with any of those 4
damo your big VCA definitely shows effort but given it exactly matches what you decided the suspool should be during night, it kinda just feels like you drafted it at night with your scum partner

the original post is more authentic (yes I'm just bothering bunny) because theoretically it was before you had time to plan for what to do after your scum partner ghug flipped

so it kinda just feels like you reacted in the moment and now are trying to justify it

you've already voted bona and flum today, you've sussed jamie in the thread. only one untouched is brain, but given I townread brain (and so do others), I wanna think that that list is town and you're just scum

but then that makes me have to think that bunny is actually town somehow because of this difference idea that I'm chewing on

if anyone including you two have thoughts on this, I welcome all comments. I'm thinking this is where my focus is today. I also wanted to look at the midday D2 wagons again since the pool of people that have at least one person sussing them is very very large, and I want to maybe try to use the push and pull around ghug to help us narrow things down
My thought on this is that damo's post had a lot of flaws that I would not expect from him as town, and that if damo is mafia, Chaqa probably makes more sense than BunnyGo as a ghug busser.
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Re: M1025 Game Thread

#2607 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:24 am

Fluminator wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:20 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:34 pm
Oh wait this is interesting.

Here Ghug shoots down my suggestion that Flum was desperately trying to save Bozo:
ghug wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:33 pm

You think he's trying to save bozo?
ghug wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:39 pm
Jamie, I kind of asked last page: why do you think Flum would be desperate right now?
But later Ghug suggests that Flum was trying to save Bona:
ghug wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:48 am
I guess I should put my thoughts down for people to not listen to when I'm dead.

Useless and thus suspicious
Bona
Flum - I still think he might have been defending bona with his late day votes, and I don't think he'd vote for Eden the way he did if they were teammates, so adjust accordingly if either of those two flip.
Rd
I still don't understand how you thought I was desperate to save bozo. Do you still think I'm scumbuddies with him?
You were flailing around trying to save someone.

What I find interesting is that you've responded to this, yet you have not responded to the stuff about Ghug refusing to vote for you despite repeatedly saying he would.

That is the reason for my vote on you, and you haven't commented on it.

Hmmm!
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Re: M1025 Game Thread

#2608 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:25 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:56 pm
There was also a game once where bozo was my teammate and bussed me hard. Also he didn’t KNOW I was his teammate (we knew him. He knew nobody).

He’s honestly terrifying to me when I’m scum. I’m not this time, but he feels less scary.
If you don't know, it's not bussing.
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Re: M1025 Game Thread

#2609 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:28 am

Chaqa wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:52 am
Pairs:
Bonatogether - bozotheclown
Bonatogether - brainbomb
Bonatogether - BunnyGo
Bonatogether - damo666
Bonatogether - Fluminator
Bonatogether - Jamiet99uk
Bonatogether - pyxxy

bozotheclown - brainbomb
bozotheclown - BunnyGo
bozotheclown - damo666
bozotheclown - Fluminator
bozotheclown - Jamiet99uk
bozotheclown - pyxxy

brainbomb - BunnyGo
brainbomb - damo666
brainbomb - Fluminator
brainbomb - Jamiet99uk
brainbomb - pyxxy

BunnyGo - damo666
BunnyGo - Fluminator
BunnyGo - Jamiet99uk
BunnyGo - pyxxy

damo666 - Fluminator
damo666 - Jamiet99uk
damo666 - pyxxy

Fluminator - Jamiet99uk
Fluminator - pyxxy

Jamiet - pyxxy

For use in future
D-

Show your working.
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Re: M1025 Game Thread

#2610 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:32 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:19 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:01 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:58 pm

That's what I've been saying
I have come around to your line of thinking.

Do you still think Bozo is the other one?
When did Chaqa say that?
Earlier this phase Bozo. Didn't you even notice him endvote you?
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Re: M1025 Game Thread

#2611 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:34 am

@Bozo, look see here:
Chaqa wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 2:36 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 2:33 pm
Chaqa,

How do you feel, in hindsight, about the fact that every time you tried to mobilise troops to protect Bozo, Ghug appeared to be the most eager recruit?
It's pretty suspicious, and if I'm wrong (or right) about Flum I sure want to check that out.
Chaqa wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:00 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 2:45 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 2:36 pm
It's pretty suspicious, and if I'm wrong (or right) about Flum I sure want to check that out.
Why do you think Flum is part of Ghug and Bozo's team?
I've explained this before, it's the way ghug and him interacted
Chaqa wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:01 pm
I'm actually somewhat convinced by that, but I also think this is just fun.

##Vote bozo
##End
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Re: M1025 Game Thread

#2612 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:35 am

damo666 wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:17 am
Ok let's kill Bunny.

If Bunny flips town then tomorrow YOU MUST KILL FLUM.

##VOTE BUNNY
Can you explain the logic of this, for the slower children in the class, such as myself?
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Re: M1025 Game Thread

#2613 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:04 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:03 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 6:44 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 6:44 pm


I don’t think wolf!bona pulls that with wolf!pyxxy. Too weird.
The whole misreading the flip thing. I just can’t see it.
Why did you drop that after N1?
kid had performance at school at 8 am that day. then took my kid to the doctor. drove interstate to do it. stayed at my parents after. so...higher priorities. Only left my parents shortly after EOD2.
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Re: M1025 Game Thread

#2614 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:07 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:03 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 6:44 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 6:44 pm


I don’t think wolf!bona pulls that with wolf!pyxxy. Too weird.
The whole misreading the flip thing. I just can’t see it.
Why did you drop that after N1?
just saw the word "that". Thought yuo asked why I dropped after N1.

I have been bringing it up subtly every time someone (damo and brain mostly) suggests that bona and pyxxy are scum buddies.
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Re: M1025 Game Thread

#2615 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:09 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:41 am
damo666 wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:19 pm
@Bozo and @Pyxxy

I believe you are voting for a compatriot
That is what you said about ghug.

Why don't you think BunnyGo just bussed ghug at EOD? It seems like he preferred to DK you over ghug. Also, PE, pyxxy, and I made it clear we were OK DKing BunnyGo or ghug, and we settled on ghug because BunnyGo obviously would have voted for me if necessary to save himself, and Chaqa said he would also, but BunnyGo and Chaqa, if mafia, would not be able to vote for me to save ghug.
your last statement is false. BunnyGo and Chaqa voting you instead of ghug would have caused you to be the daykill.
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Re: M1025 Game Thread

#2616 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:14 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:13 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:00 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:46 am


Ok in that first post was “willing to vote”. Subtly different than happy about.
What about worcej's D1 made you dislike his wagon?
I don't think you ever answered this. Can you tell me why you disliked worcej's D1 wagon so much?
The reason his was scumread was his entrance. Then there seemed to be self-perpetuating view that he was safe to kill since he'd have claimed if the doc.

But I read his entrance as towny; especially after having that attention from his entrance in previous game. I just thought people were wrong. I also thought the people who had made a case based on his previous scum games were wrong; I remember scum!worcej as being active and charming.
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Re: M1025 Game Thread

#2617 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:16 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:10 am
Maybe ghug stayed away at EOD because when he came back at 22 minutes, he and his teammate damo were wagons, ghug would not be able to change his vote to his town read BunnyGo, and he knew his other teammate Chaqa would not be able to vote for me or BunnyGo.
How do you read damo's posts (not votes, posts) at EOD2? scum!damo or town!damo?
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Re: M1025 Game Thread

#2618 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:18 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:38 am
pyxxy wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:29 am
damo666 wrote:
Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:15 pm


Nah. I think Pyxxy is the only possible busser (and I know you love a bus).

There is at least one scum in {Bona, Jamie, Flum, brain} possibly both
damo666 wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:36 pm
VCA working backwards from D" making no assumptions other than known facts:

[ed note: content removed here]

Town core {damo, Bozo, Bunny, Chaqa, Pyxxy}

Possible scum: Bona, brain, Flum, Jamie

I find it hard to order those 4 but gun to head I'll say Flum, Bona, Jamie, brain

##vote Flum but essentially happy with any of those 4
damo your big VCA definitely shows effort but given it exactly matches what you decided the suspool should be during night, it kinda just feels like you drafted it at night with your scum partner

the original post is more authentic (yes I'm just bothering bunny) because theoretically it was before you had time to plan for what to do after your scum partner ghug flipped

so it kinda just feels like you reacted in the moment and now are trying to justify it

you've already voted bona and flum today, you've sussed jamie in the thread. only one untouched is brain, but given I townread brain (and so do others), I wanna think that that list is town and you're just scum

but then that makes me have to think that bunny is actually town somehow because of this difference idea that I'm chewing on

if anyone including you two have thoughts on this, I welcome all comments. I'm thinking this is where my focus is today. I also wanted to look at the midday D2 wagons again since the pool of people that have at least one person sussing them is very very large, and I want to maybe try to use the push and pull around ghug to help us narrow things down
My thought on this is that damo's post had a lot of flaws that I would not expect from him as town, and that if damo is mafia, Chaqa probably makes more sense than BunnyGo as a ghug busser.
If damo is a wolf, I would have had to been hard bussing ALL day 2, AND THEN switched to my other teammate. When I could have easily and reasonably switched to you.
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Re: M1025 Game Thread

#2619 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:24 am

@damo: start over. You did bad math and made mistake. Start from the beginning. Use the control cycle...use the control cycle...
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Re: M1025 Game Thread

#2620 Post by Chaqa » Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:27 am

@damo: you said you had it down to six pairs?

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